AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks

[cadaveca]

So, the AMD FX-8150 looked the Core i7-980X and i7-2600K in the eye...



And ran away?



But it did throw a couple of punches before it left...





Funny thing is, I am not one bit surprised. Laughing, but not surprised.

 

[v12dock]

Not clock speed, core performance i think.

architectural tweeks, seems like AMD designed it to be a extremely high clocker and large gains when overclock.

AMDs memory controller team needs to get their heads out of there asses...

 

[entropy13]

architectural tweeks, seems like AMD designed it to be a extremely high clocker and large gains when overclock.

Large "gains" in power consumption too.

I can't seem to get to load bit-tech.net for me...hmm. Someone else took the screenshot.

 

[bear jesus]

If only they could have improved the IPC a little more i would have been more impressed, as things stand i'm rather meh towards it.

 

[ViperXTR]

so is this like the old days of Netburst architecture now? Ultra fast clocks and high power consumption with the speed not as proportional?

 

[de.das.dude]

where is bulldozer!!!!!!!!!!! its 12th oct here!!!!!!!!!

 

[Covert_Death]

i'll probably be holding on to my Phenom II x4 955 @ 4.1Ghz if this is my upgrade option, ill probably wait for stepping revisions or something, unless this thing proves to OC with closed loop water cooling like a beast (meaning over 5Ghz on an H60 or something) then i probably will just wait...

slightly dissapointed... was reallying hoping for atleast NEAR 2600k performance even if i had to OC a little further, if it could have just competed with it!!!

 

[LagunaX]

FX 8150 review anyone?

http://guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-processor-review/

Nice review.
Pretty much does sum it up.

Only thing that would have made the review better would to have included right next to the overclocked 4.6ghz 8 Core Bulldozer an overclocked 4.6ghz 8 Thread i7-2600k.

But that probably would not have been too pretty.

Kudos to AMD but I'm sticking to my 2600k for now

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

again people need to take it with a grain of salt

Windows 7 scheduler for the cpu is fucked up it dosent work properly with Bulldozer

Windows 8 dosent have these problems and Bulldozer shows a 5-20% performance improvement in Windows 8 over Windows 7 currently

Windows 7 needs patches and updates and they could be here tomorrow or 2-3 months from now sadly...

if you want realy Bulldozer benches youll have to find someone willing to test the cpu in Windows 8 which is surprisingly stable... stable enough to handle the BF3 beta etc. but i doubt youll see any benchmarks running Bulldozer in the enviroment its suppose to be in lol.

AMD admits to the problem openly in the reviewers bundle and info they included with it,

Laughingman might do a Windows 8 bench session so it will be interesting to see if he can finish the current review and find time for it.

 

[TRWOV]

These results certaintly put the PII x6 in a new light as the new MSRP is a very good deal for an hex-core. For guys that are rocking an Athlon X4 it would be a very sensible upgrade given it's price point.



As for the FXs I think that AMD is thinking too far ahead of themselves. Sure, multithreaded applications are the future but they need to sell their CPUs in the present. Maybe they should have released a PII die shrink with some improvements in IPC and memory bandwidth and refine the Bulldozer architecture for FM2 next year. Might it be that the AM3 platform is holding it back a little?

I don't put too much importance on the benchmarks using legacy instruction sets, like Prime (x87), but still I hope that the next steppings along with bios updates, kernel patches and applications' updates extract more performance from the architecture to make it at least beat the 1100T consistently.

Anyway, in short, a good productivity processor but average for gaming. The problem is that Intel has processors that are good at both things.

 

[entropy13]

again people need to take it with a grain of salt

Windows 7 scheduler for the cpu is fucked up it dosent work properly with Bulldozer

Windows 8 dosent have these problems and Bulldozer shows a 5-20% performance improvement in Windows 8 over Windows 7 currently

Windows 7 needs patches and updates and they could be here tomorrow or 2-3 months from now sadly...

if you want realy Bulldozer benches youll have to find someone willing to test the cpu in Windows 8 which is surprisingly stable... stable enough to handle the BF3 beta etc. but i doubt youll see any benchmarks running Bulldozer in the enviroment its suppose to be in lol.

AMD admits to the problem openly in the reviewers bundle and info they included with it,

Laughingman might do a Windows 8 bench session so it will be interesting to see if he can finish the current review and find time for it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-23.html

 

[xenocide]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-23.html

In other words the performance hit is minimal at worst. I don't think redoing most benchs on W8 would result in the FX CPU's ultimately pulling ahead.

 

[entropy13]

In other words the performance hit is minimal at worst. I don't think redoing most benchs on W8 would result in the FX CPU's ultimately pulling ahead.

Yeah, there was some improvement for the FX while there was some performance hit on the 2500K and YET the gap was still significant enough.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

you do realize that World of warcraft is a shit benchmark

but it still shows a near 17% performance shift correct?

so the 5-20% argument still stands

and i would expect WoW to perform like crap its still based on the ancient Intel Compiler that is from pre lawsuit days meaning the unoptimized code path is used

so on an unoptimized code path the performance shift is 17%

what i would like to see is Crossfire results and high resolution gaming tests

in which case on Kitguru and Hardware heaven the 8150 performs much better getting withing 1-2FPS of the 2600k

now if 5%-20% is added to that it puts them on completely equal footing which means the memory bottleneck is gone and in general performance with multi gpus has improved which was AMDs biggest draw back.

]in reality AMD shouldnt have called the FX 8150 an 8 core chip

the discussion on teamspeak tonight was enlightening

look at Bulldozer 8150 as a quadcore dual threaded chip and it looks alot better in that regard LOL

also 2 tests on Windows 8 is hardly indicitive of performance solidworks is a decent test but WoW isnt really suited to a test,

would be more interested to see

Bad Company 2 on Windows 8
BF3 beta
GTA IV
etc.

but overall im glad i didnt wait for Bulldozer ive had this performance level for awhile now out of a 2500k.

 

[eidairaman1]

These results certaintly put the PII x6 in a new light as the new MSRP is a very good deal for an hex-core. For guys that are rocking an Athlon X4 it would be a very sensible upgrade given it's price point.

As for the FXs I think that AMD is thinking too far ahead of themselves. Sure, multithreaded applications are the future but they need to sell their CPUs in the present. Maybe they should have released a PII die shrink with some improvements in IPC and memory bandwidth and refine the Bulldozer architecture for FM2 next year. Might it be that the AM3 platform is holding it back a little?

I don't put too much importance on the benchmarks using legacy instruction sets, like Prime (x87), but still I hope that the next steppings along with bios updates, kernel patches and applications' updates extract more performance from the architecture to make it at least beat the 1100T consistently.

Anyway, in short, a good productivity processor but average for gaming. The problem is that Intel has processors that are good at both things.

I feel the major change will be in FM2, Less they pull it off with Piledriver

 

[largon]

Disappointing.
Single thread performance is basically ≤ Deneb.
It's an FX for sure...

 

[cadaveca]

But it can almost go over 9000!!!! Guinness-style!! That's cool, right?

Disappointing to not see any 5.0 GHz OC results, or did I miss a review?

Also interesting to see some reviews done on ES chips, too.


I'm upset a bit at the perforamnce, but glad that I was right.

 

[ViperXTR]

GTA4 and BFBC2

indeed, last time i see a GTA4 bench was in behardware and toms, would love to see this heavily multithreaded game run on this new architecture.

 

[entropy13]

Wow, apparently an AMD fanboy took offense on me posting links to several reviews sites, which are all apparently false and a sign of Intel fanboyism.

@ViperXTR: Too late on the warning, I already asked him if I posted links to reviews on a Cooler Master CPU cooler would that mean I'm automatically "relying on other people's opinions"?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

whos an AMD fanboy? point them out?

cause if its me i fail to see it im running a 2500k and ive bashed the Phenom II architecture for the last 6 months for shit multigpu scaling lol

and for the most part im just trolling tossing out hope to those hanging on by a thread for Bulldozer. been stirring the pot and trolling all day but im guessing everyone but cadaveca and mailman missed the fact i was trolling.

 

[entropy13]

whos an AMD fanboy? point them out?

cause if its me i fail to see it im running a 2500k and ive bashed the Phenom II architecture for the last 6 months for shit multigpu scaling lol

and for the most part im just trolling tossing out hope to those hanging on by a thread for Bulldozer. been stirring the pot and trolling all day but im guessing everyone but cadaveca and mailman missed the fact i was trolling.

No, it's a different forum.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

okay well link.... so i can sign up and troll them over there

 

[entropy13]

okay well link.... so i can sign up and troll them over there

We don't strictly use English there.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

awww shucks.... there goes my fun. oh well its been a good ride, giving false hope for the last 12-13hours has been alot of fun

what i can say is this

if you do any

Encoding
Photoshop
3D rendering aka Maya, 3DS max etc, you know real apps not Cinebench

Bulldozer is win...

if you do none of the above its epic fail

my last parting gift is dont hate me for trolling someone had to do it. cause Mailman couldnt. he was to emotionally attached to the AMD / fanboy love child that is BD

 

[Inceptor]

I think what AMD needs to do is improve FPU performance, and wait for a Windows 7 patch/ Windows 8.
Their timing was off, I think. But it definitely is an interesting architecture.
There really aren't any surprises here. No point holding banners for AMD or Intel.
So, there are some things that need fixing, but the 8150 is at the moment, at least, in the i5-2xxx performance range, overall, and approaches the i7-2xxx range. Anyone who was expecting more than that was dreaming, I think.
The architecture is promising, but it looks to me like it is 'looking forward in time' to the later generation APUs -- which might explain its poor FPU performance --- something that would be offloaded onto an on-die gpgpu.
That brings up the question as to whether, a BD or PD cpu, paired with an AMD gpu, could see some performance optimization, in the future.