AMD to Turn to TSMC for ''Bulldozer'' Manufacturing

[Horrux]

yes separating the fabs from the design is a good thing if you plan to outsource those fabs, i'm not sure if GF has any other clients then AMD, but even then the capacity will probably not be enough.

though i'm sure many people will disagree, but I still thinks that purchasing ATI was a big mistake, at $6.4B (if memory serves correct) it was a huge risk, and it eventually caused the spin-off, and less investment in R&D further down the road.

yes Llano is nice, but is it all AMD is out there for ?

Llano is the very first generation of something Intel cannot ever compete with.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Llano is the very first generation of something Intel cannot ever compete with.

Definitely. They wasted billions on that pile of crap larrabee (sp?) and it will probably never see the light of day even for special purposes.

Any time intel delves into something they know nothing about it results in utter and fantastic failure. Itanium was a hoot, too. It had some good design to it (came from HP), but instead of realizing its weakness and inevitable downfall they continued pumping billion after billion into it.

I hope they try to compete in the consumer graphics again with more than just integrated dog droppings. The billions streaming out of their bank account with zero gain makes me smile.

 

[Horrux]

Definitely. They wasted billions on that pile of crap larrabee (sp?) and it will probably never see the light of day even for special purposes.

Any time intel delves into something they know nothing about it results in utter and fantastic failure. Itanium was a hoot, too. It had some good design to it (came from HP), but instead of realizing its weakness and inevitable downfall they continued pumping billion after billion into it.

I hope they try to compete in the consumer graphics again with more than just integrated dog droppings. The billions streaming out of their bank account with zero gain makes me smile.

Or they could pull the extremely masterful move of buying out nVidia, plunking down billions for that, then more billions (and years and years) integrating that IP & people into their CPU IP & people, make a mess of the whole thing and then realize they are WAY too late to the party anyway.

 

[Neuromancer]

You mean the mess after mess NV had to deal with because of them?

Sure outsourcing to these other companies might be cheaper, but with as often as they are in the news for mistakes and screw ups, think they'd be better off doing it all themselves.

AMD had issues too, not with Fab but with production levels, TSMC just could not hack the volume requirements.

They were trying to dump them completely, but GloFo couldnt handle it all and thats the only reason TSMC is still producing AMD stuff.