Got A Virus? It's Your Fault Says Microsoft

[Ahhzz]

sorry but i stopped reading after this line. this is supposed to be news, not opinion. if this were posted in any other section on this site it would be closed due to trolling.

hmm.... looks like Mod Trolling...

 

[de.das.dude]

oh look, a pirated copy of that software i didnt want to pay for!

*double clicks crack, blames ensuing virus on crap antivirus product/OS*

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meh... internet noobs

 

[Derek12]

dont forget, hey look free facebook emoticons! *click*
woah an iPhonie for 100$!! *click*
look a free online lottery *click*

meh... internet noobs

Haha I remember some false antivirus software and the typical "your computer has 9385998783 errors click here to fix it" or the "You have 1 new message click for read it" or the &%/$%"" false download buttons. Result: "go write format C:" . And I was fooled (when I was a n00b)

 

[qubit]

sorry but i stopped reading after this line. this is supposed to be news, not opinion. if this were posted in any other section on this site it would be closed due to trolling.

There's no trolling from me. You'd be in a better position to criticise if you'd actually read all of it instead of throwing insults at me, don't you think? Come back to me with a reasoned argument, making constructive points and I'll debate it with you, if you must.

Ahhzz seems to have a point...

 

[Frick]

There's no trolling from me. You'd be in a better position to criticise if you'd actually read all of it instead of throwing insults at me, don't you think? Come back to me with a reasoned argument, making constructive points and I'll debate it with you, if you must.

Ahhzz seems to have a point...

I'll try: That statement you made is not true anymore, and it feels like a low one, coming from you. I know you know better.

 

[qubit]

I'll try: That statement you made is not true anymore, and it feels like a low one, coming from you. I know you know better.

Eh? I was just defending myself. I have no idea what you mean.

 

[Derek12]

I'll try: That statement you made is not true anymore[...]

Well, historically it's true more vulnerabilities were discovered in MS products, but again, may have to do with the usage share of their products, and interest from virus makers or crackers to infect them, and not fault from Microsoft (as far I know) etc. none software escape from the viruses and worms and vulnerabilities even non Microsoft products.

 

[Frick]

Eh? I was just defending myself. I have no idea what you mean.

The first sentence in your article.

 

[de.das.dude]

Haha I remember some false antivirus software and the typical "your computer has 9385998783 errors click here to fix it" or the "You have 1 new message click for read it" or the &%/$%"" false download buttons. Result: "go write format C:" . And I was fooled (when I was a n00b)

you know the software, i know people who actually believe with their heart that its an antivirus!

 

[qubit]

The first sentence in your article.

No, because it's justified by what follows - it's a classic situation of taking something out of context otherwise.

 

[Derek12]

you know the software, i know people who actually believe with their heart that its an antivirus!

Yeah they are very similar to any legit AV, and they says "your computer has <random number> virus, remove them", and really they do the opposite, as the infamous WinFixer/WinAntivirus crap try to convince these people to install a real AV like Kaspersky, NOD32, Avast etc, their computer would be happy

 

[micropage7]

Yeah they are very similar to any legit AV, and they says "your computer has <random number> virus, remove them", and really they do the opposite, as the infamous WinFixer/WinAntivirus crap try to convince these people to install a real AV like Kaspersky, NOD32, Avast etc, their computer would be happy

you mean fake AV?
but in some cases local AV performs better for local virus than others

 

[Frick]

No, because it's justified by what follows - it's a classic situation of taking something out of context otherwise.

No. It's not justified. I've read the piece some times now and "the maker of notoriously vulnerable software" is never justified in it.

I think you thought we were complaining about the "pass blame on the user" thing, but that part is accurate.

 

[qubit]

No. It's not justified. I've read the piece some times now and "the maker of notoriously vulnerable software" is never justified in it.

I think you thought we were complaining about the "pass blame on the user" thing, but that part is accurate.

Does Microsoft not have a reputation of notoriously insecure software? Of course they do, it's been that way for years and was well deserved. Only in recent history have they made signficant strides in security. My second phrase acknowledges that they have a point in finally pointing the finger at the user. The data from Microsoft also supports this - whether one accepts their data is another matter and not the point here.

Besides, there's such a thing as an irreverent writing style which spices things up a bit, which is what I do, so enjoy the humour!

 

[Derek12]

you mean fake AV?
but in some cases local AV performs better for local virus than others

Yeah those rogue software scams, for example WinFixer I wasn't victim of this one but similar ones which I can't (and hope not to) remember

 

[Frick]

Does Microsoft not have a reputation of notoriously insecure software? Of course they do, it's been that way for years and was well deserved. Only in recent history have they made signficant strides in security. My second phrase acknowledges that they have a point in finally pointing the finger at the user. The data from Microsoft also supports this - whether one accepts their data is another matter and not the point here.

It was well deserved is the point I'm trying to make, whereas the very first words in this article make it sound like they still deserve this, which they don't.

 

[qubit]

It was well deserved is the point I'm trying to make, whereas the very first words in this article make it sound like they still deserve this, which they don't.

No, they don't deserve this reputation any more. However, I dunno why people are getting so hung up on that first sentence. As I said, irreverent writing style and there's an example.

In the rest of the article, I pretty much agree with Microsoft and put the blame at the hands of clueless users - heck, I even used the term. So no, I'm not bashing them for having insecure software, as they used to have.

 

[sy5tem]

Chances are if your reading this you already know it to be true.
Thankfully ppl are EDIT:**-uneducated-** so i will still have plenty of computers to fix.

this make like 15% of my remote support .. "my computer is slow I DID NOT DO ANYTHING!"

lol ohh look into history CRACK & PORN! got there magicly!

LOLOLOL

 

[TurdFergasun]

MS makes shitty software, designed to artificially support MS trained "techs" aka false middle men. that is all. quit defending beligerant piss poor programming, unless you're one of the fools who've paid their bribes to receive MS certification, then i guess you have a vested interest in pimping the status quo.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

MS makes shitty software, designed to artificially support MS trained "techs" aka false middle men. that is all. quit defending beligerant piss poor programming, unless you're one of the fools who've paid their bribes to receive MS certification, then i guess you have a vested interest in pimping the status quo.

you dont need a Microsoft tech to tell you your computer as absolutely FUBAR'd. theres people out there who can do it for you for less

Far from defending Microsoft but becoming MS certified really opens up a lot of doors when it comes to jobs, even if you dont stay within the hardware/software support sector.

 

[cdawall]

can i just say I agree that if you got a virus it is your fault. I have gone a couple of years now virus free.

 

[m4gicfour]

To repurpose something w1zzard said once:

Sure, I could have a virus free computer, if I RTFM and paid for legitimate software, but OH ZE NOES I needs my free porn, iPod, motorcycle, PS3, XBOX and dodgy antivirus download from a site I found from a banner ad IQ test asking whether or not the picture is of a woman or a potato

 

[Mussels]

the potato spelled intelligence wrong

 

[newtekie1]

I agree with Microsoft. I clean viruses as part of my living, and in the past 6 years of doing it professionally, I have yet to find clean a virust that didn't get on the computer by the user doing something stupid. And it amazes me how many times I've heard "the anti-virus wouldn't let me do blah blah blah, so I uninstalled/disabled the antivirus"...

 

[m4gicfour]

the potato spelled intelligence wrong

Lol I know, just part of the charm.

I agree with Microsoft. I clean viruses as part of my living, and in the past 6 years of doing it professionally, I have yet to find clean a virust that didn't get on the computer by the user doing something stupid. And it amazes me how many times I've heard "the anti-virus wouldn't let me do blah blah blah, so I uninstalled/disabled the antivirus"...

Yup. That kind of thing seems to come from people who ask questions like "Can you download some more RAM", so it's kind of understandable. If your level of knowledge of the device is THAT low, it's not really surprising. To tap an old cliche: Headlight Fluid.