Rise from your grave! The 3dfx re-build

[TRWOV]

Not much to show besides the 5500:

Got the Syncmaster out of the box and found that it was black. For some reason I had it in a 793v box (beige version). I guess the one I sold was in the 794v box.

It's somewhat battered up on the back because it used to be flattened against the wall. Nothing a cleaning cloth can't overcome.

I've already hit a couple of flea markets looking for parts. Just found a black NEC floppy drive:

For the motherboard I'm thinking that I'll have to buy it online if only to get one with the features I want. I found a couple of slot 1 boards, one with an 440FX chipset and other with a SiS chipset but neither has what I'm looking for. I'll look around for a couple of weeks and after that comes ebay.

1- 1GB of ram for older software/games is way overkill beside Win98se will not like it
go between 256-512MB that will be more than enough (256MB if only playing older games)

Ok, I wasn't all that sure about going for 1GB anyway as I recall having 384MB and no problems. Heck, I didn't even had 1GB until I bought my old AiW X800XT.

2- Don't get the SB AWE 64 you will run into problems with games & some software (one of the worst card that creative made IMO) believe me what you want to get is , the older SB16bit or a good SB 128
If you can't find a good old SB16bit let me know i can always check in my basement & see if i have more than one?

Why is that? Is it really that bad? I'm listing it in the specs because I wanted to buy it in the past but it was extremely expensive at the time.

 

[Goodman]

If i remember correctly (long time ago lol!) the AWE64 had many problems running Dos games properly (using only 8-16bit sound?) but was later fix with newer drivers , i think?

Anyhow i got one AWE64 & lots of SB cards if you want one , but don't know what it will cost to send to Mexico & if all worth it?

 

[TRWOV]

I'm trying locally first to see what I can get but I'll keep your offer in mind. Thanks!

 

[BazookaJoe]

I like where this tread is going...

 

[Goodman]

I'm trying locally first to see what I can get but I'll keep your offer in mind. Thanks!

No problem! just let me know
Ill give you the card for free you just need to pay for shipping cost if it's not to high price for shipping?

 

[TRWOV]

What do you think about this board?

A guy about 100Km (60 miles) from here has it but 1) doesn't know if it still works, although he says it was working and 2) doesn't know if it supports FSB133 CPUs.

Apparently the board is a Tyan S1833, so I guess it's a server board. Does someone know if it supports FSB133 CPUs? Goggle isn't helping and the board is in his parent's house so he can't take a look at the chipset.

He's asking $35 for everything (2x P3 450Mhz, 1GB RAM, Matrox G2+ AGP), if it supports FSB133 CPUs I might bite... after haggling a little, of course Or would the 2 P3@450Mhz be enough for high-end 2000ish games (quake III, etc.)?

 

[Goodman]

Not good as win98 only support single CPU's (No dual slot CPU or dual cores)

You may be able to install Win98 but it will only use one CPU & not to mention the power draw on these old dual socket boards...

 

[laszlo]

i also had a lot of old sitting hardware and decided to make a few rigs and already donate 3 to poor families who can't afford to buy for their kiddos;it was better than to sit on parts so if you afford you may make happy someone for Christmas just think about it

 

[Hugis]

Looks like a Tyan Tiger 100 to me but OEM version,
Heres a link

http://www.tyan.com/archive/products/html/tiger100.html

also a manual here

ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s1832_220.pdf


Will my Tiger 100 board support Pentium® III Coppermine CPUs?
Certain versions of the S1832 Tiger100 board will only support 100 FSB Coppermine CPUs. Because of the Intel 440BX chipset, the Tiger100 will not support 133 FSB Coppermine CPUs.

In order to find out if your board supports a 100 FSB Coppermine CPU, please check the board's ECN Label (which looks like a small, white box-shaped imprint on the motherboard surface near the DIMM slots). If a letter "F" (or later) is imprinted on the ECN label, then the Tiger100 will support a 100 FSB Coppermine CPU.

Good luck with the build btw

 

[arnoo1]

Can it run crysis?

I like to see this build

 

[Mussels]

If i remember correctly (long time ago lol!) the AWE64 had many problems running Dos games properly (using only 8-16bit sound?) but was later fix with newer drivers , i think?

Anyhow i got one AWE64 & lots of SB cards if you want one , but don't know what it will cost to send to Mexico & if all worth it?

DOS games required drivers written for the card, so the card wasnt compatible with an existing cards generic driver version bundled with the game, you had no sound.

DOS really sucked for compatibility.

 

[TRWOV]

Not good as win98 only support single CPU's (No dual slot CPU or dual cores)

You may be able to install Win98 but it will only use one CPU & not to mention the power draw on these old dual socket boards...

Looks like a Tyan Tiger 100 to me but OEM version,
Heres a link

http://www.tyan.com/archive/products/html/tiger100.html

also a manual here

ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s1832_220.pdf


Will my Tiger 100 board support Pentium® III Coppermine CPUs?
Certain versions of the S1832 Tiger100 board will only support 100 FSB Coppermine CPUs. Because of the Intel 440BX chipset, the Tiger100 will not support 133 FSB Coppermine CPUs.

In order to find out if your board supports a 100 FSB Coppermine CPU, please check the board's ECN Label (which looks like a small, white box-shaped imprint on the motherboard surface near the DIMM slots). If a letter "F" (or later) is imprinted on the ECN label, then the Tiger100 will support a 100 FSB Coppermine CPU.

Good luck with the build btw

aww... bummer... Well, back to square one.

DOS games required drivers written for the card, so the card wasnt compatible with an existing cards generic driver version bundled with the game, you had no sound.

DOS really sucked for compatibility.

Ok, so that seals it. SB 16 it is.

 

[HalfAHertz]

Do you really think those old games need 2 cores?

 

[Red_Machine]

95/98/ME will just plain refuse to boot on anything more than 512 MB RAM. 256MB is best, I'd say.

 

[brandonwh64]

95/98/ME will just plain refuse to boot on anything more than 512 MB RAM. 256MB is best, I'd say.

Hmmm I had a AMD K6 450MHZ socket 7 with two 512mb PC100 sticks and used 95/98 for a long time. maybe just the board you use

 

[Red_Machine]

No, it's a kernel limitation imposed by Microsoft. The OS will bluescreen on boot.

 

[TRWOV]

Do you really think those old games need 2 cores?

Well, no, but I thought it'd be neat.

 

[Goodman]

95/98/ME will just plain refuse to boot on anything more than 512 MB RAM. 256MB is best, I'd say.

Not sure if i remember this well but i think i used to dual boot Win98se & XP with 1GB of ram & never got any problems but i always set manually the page file in Win98se after installation
Then again i meant be wrong & was using only 512MB?

If i can make the time this week-end ill built back an old PC & put 1GB of ram in it & try to install Win98se & see how it goes?

But anyhow you are right no need to go higher than 256MB that is plenty for older games even 128MB would be good enough

 

[Luciel]

For the record...

I had (still have actuall) a P1-MMX 233Mhz with a Voodoo 2 12Mb, 64mb ram and it run Quake 3 no problems, hell it even ran Half Life : )

 

[qubit]

For the record...

I had (still have actuall) a P1-MMX 233Mhz with a Voodoo 2 12Mb, 64mb ram and it run Quake 3 no problems, hell it even ran Half Life : )

That's awesome. There's a thread on here somewhere for classic hardware and you've got the perfect candidate!

I had a quick search in the hardware section but couldn't find it, so if anyone can, please post a link here.

 

[Luciel]

I mainly posted it as an answer to wether the p3 was enough to run quake 3 but that classic hardware thread sounds cool

I was recently thinking of making an arcade style mod and using this hardware as opposed to letting it die in a box in the garage, not sure if it´s good enough to run mame though

 

[TRWOV]

It should, I've found K6 based MAME CPUs around here. They even run SF3 somehow.

Gate to the Nostalgic Hardware Club: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108251

 

[Luciel]

Awesome : D and just posted in that thread, thanks for the link, reading through it and really bringing back some good memories

 

[Amdguy]

I have one of those in my closet also, i remember that when i first got it i didn't get to go straight home, those were the most painful 2 hours of my life.

 

[TRWOV]

Guys, any info on a CT-6VTA2 board? Apparently it's a Chaintech board with a VIA chipset (seems to be Apollo Pro) but I can't find any specs online and chaintech.com.tw never loads. A manual would be ok too.