OFFICIAL Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim (Discussion)

jonathan1107 · Nov 26, 2011

Just did some further testing, and yeah... the drivers seem to fix part of the Crossfire problem... Meaning at least now it's scaling a little better than single card config...

But definitly, either we're gonna need a new CAP or we need to hope that the Patch is improve performance... But if you ask me, I've got a feeling we're gonna have to wait for a while before proper crossfire performance in this game...

Because clearly, it is a "console port"... This time, a very fun one... but still a port with lots of issues regarding CPU and GPU scaling optimizations...

techtard · Nov 26, 2011

Easy Rhino said:
being a vampire has ruined the game for me. and i guess im too far along to reverse the process. so i went to whiterun where i have a house and the townspeople came after me. then the soldiers defended me and it was an all out bloodbath!! seriously it was 5 guards on about 10 townspeople. the children were not spared! wtf is this!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/111125/2011-11-25_00003.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/111125/2011-11-25_00007.jpg

Before you enter any towns or interact with any friendly NPCs you need to feed to lower your thirst for blood.
An easy way to do this if you are at stage 4 is to talk to a follower, and get them to sleep in a bed, then feed on them while they are sleeping. Or, you can sneak into town after dark and feed on a random sleeping townsperson.

If you go into town with stage 4 Vampirism, you will automatically be attacked by everyone on sight.

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 26, 2011

Heh Rhino shoulda healed, bro. I got infected in my first vamp cave and hightailed it back to town after clearing to hit the temple.

pantherx12 · Nov 26, 2011

Anyone else tried the ole tweaks
bUseThreadedBlood=1

bUseThreadedMorpher=1

bUseThreadedTempEffects=1

bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1

bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1

bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1

iNumHavokThreads=5

iThreads=9
?

Trying them at the moment, they don't cause any issues, and frame rate seems a bit better.

Places where I was getting 28 am getting 35 fps and places where I got 45 I'm getting 60!

Although could be something else I've twiddled with, anyone else care to try? Put them under general in skyrimprefs.

entropy13 · Nov 26, 2011

I haven't really checked out if you can be both a vampire and a werewolf. :laugh:

EDIT: Oh, you can't. :laugh:

LAN_deRf_HA · Nov 26, 2011

Tried, no changes.

Easy Rhino · Nov 26, 2011

entropy13 said:
I haven't really checked out if you can be both a vampire and a werewolf.

EDIT: Oh, you can't.

yea one cures the other i believe

Widjaja · Nov 26, 2011

Wrigleyvillain said:
Heh Rhino shoulda healed, bro. I got infected in my first vamp cave and hightailed it back to town after clearing to hit the temple.

Due to Oblivion and being a vampire for a bit, I decided to never be one in Skyrim, so when I was infected I made sure I downed a cure disease potion.

jonathan1107 said:
Just did some further testing, and yeah... the drivers seem to fix part of the Crossfire problem... Meaning at least now it's scaling a little better than single card config...

But definitly, either we're gonna need a new CAP or we need to hope that the Patch is improve performance... But if you ask me, I've got a feeling we're gonna have to wait for a while before proper crossfire performance in this game...

Because clearly, it is a "console port"... This time, a very fun one... but still a port with lots of issues regarding CPU and GPU scaling optimizations...

Personally its kind of hard to complain, because I have always had iffy performance in Oblivion and the new sound card only made the known stutter when background music chances issue even worse.

With Skyrim I have very little issues with performance in comparison
As for the bugs across the spectrum in the game, from what I read this is true.
Some save bug issue on PS3 and a fair few identical issues with XBOX360 & PC.

pantherx12 · Nov 26, 2011

LAN_deRf_HA said:
Tried, no changes.

Thanks, perhaps my performance increase happened because the CPU was bottlenecking my system quite a bit.

GPU usage in town has gone from 33% to 77%

Not all of that is from the tweaks though, I've over-clocked an extra 300mhz as well but that only accounted for some of that increase.

entropy13 · Nov 26, 2011

I tried the tweaks, there were some improvements, around 5fps.

1Kurgan1 · Nov 26, 2011

Mussels said:
^ i get that too, and i've also been stuck where the enchanting menu never closed

I sometimes get stuck talking to people, tab won't close the chat log with them. I just randomly mash keys on my keyboard and usually I disconnect in a few seconds.

Easy Rhino said:
being a vampire has ruined the game for me. and i guess im too far along to reverse the process. so i went to whiterun where i have a house and the townspeople came after me. then the soldiers defended me and it was an all out bloodbath!! seriously it was 5 guards on about 10 townspeople. the children were not spared! wtf is this!!!

Time to use some commands. Or like said, just feed and go back to stage 1, you won't be attacked during stage 1 or 2, stage 3 people will no longer initiate conversations with you (but you can still talk to them), and 4 you are KOS.

pantherx12 said:
Anyone else tried the ole tweaks
bUseThreadedBlood=1
bUseThreadedMorpher=1
bUseThreadedTempEffects=1
bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1
bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1
bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1
iNumHavokThreads=5
iThreads=9

Trying them at the moment, they don't cause any issues, and frame rate seems a bit better.

Places where I was getting 28 am getting 35 fps and places where I got 45 I'm getting 60!

Although could be something else I've twiddled with, anyone else care to try? Put them under general in skyrimprefs.

I been using these

iNumHWThreads=4
iRenderingThread2HWThread=1
iRenderingThread1HWThread=0
iHWThread6=5
iHWThread5=5
iHWThread4=5
iHWThread3=4
iHWThread2=4
iHWThread1=4
iRenderingThread2HWThread=1
iRenderingThread1HWThread=0
bMultiThreadMovement=1
iAIThread2HWThread=5
iAIThread1HWThread=3
bUseThreadedMorpher=1
bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1
bUseThreadedTempEffects=1

in my Skyrim.ini, I seen no change, but left them since they caused no issues. Maybe I'll toss them into SkyrimPrefs and try them there and see if it gives a gain.

Black Panther · Nov 26, 2011

Hmmm, I downloaded the 11.11b driver which is supposed to fix CF for Skyrim, but after reading all this and all this.... I don't think I'm installing it!

I mean, everybody who is using it is getting graphic corruption? :eek:

Frizz · Nov 26, 2011

Well my character is too OP now, got 80% less mana to cast destruction in full daedric armor (legendary) so I've switched to Master difficulty again from Expert an elder dragon showed up and one shot me with his breath, going to have an epic battle!

Black Panther said:
Hmmm, I downloaded the 11.11b driver which is supposed to fix CF for Skyrim, but after reading all this and all this.... I don't think I'm installing it!

I mean, everybody who is using it is getting graphic corruption?

Yeah I'd personally just wait for Bethesda's patch first although crossfire really does work and it might be worth just to see if you get a big enough performance jump to justify the corruptions since it's only sometimes that it happens.

Ahhzz · Nov 26, 2011

theJesus said:
Just read "Biography of Barenziah" volumes 1-3, and then "The Real Barenziah" volumes 1-5. I'm very amused at how differently they explain the same events.

I highly recommend reading these as they give great insight into the events leading up to the first Elder Scrolls game, Arena. If you haven't collected them in-game, you can find them on UESP. Also, The Real Barenziah is a good read, regardless.

I loevd that game.. that one hooked me SO much on bethesda..... Still got the original in a box upstairs

Ahhzz · Nov 26, 2011

Black Panther said:
Big sad.

Around a week ago I ordered the hardbound prima guide from Amazon. I told them to ship within 4 weeks (I didn't want to be tempted to read any spoilers).

Now I found this email

Duh wtf?!? I have been using this same credit card for over 4 years now to send gifts, to pay ebay, for paypal, on overclockers.co.uk, to buy games on Steam, to purchase from gameplay.co.uk etc etc etc....

And now that I had found a guide for Skyrim on Amazon at a terribly good price it gets refused?

What hurts most is that I didn't check my email within 24 hours as they requested. So my order got cancelled. AND apparently the hard-bound Skyrim guide is no longer available either

Edit: It's available but it's more than x3 the price I originally ordered it, it's at $67.49 now... (w..t..f..???) http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307891402/?tag=tec06d-20

For my original order it was around ~20 USD

I'm wondering whether it was true that my bank declined my credit card... I might give them a call tomorrow...

I'm SOOOO sorry.... I suppose this would be a bad time to tell you that the book looks amazing.. .

Black Panther · Nov 26, 2011

Ahhzz said:
I'm SOOOO sorry.... I suppose this would be a bad time to tell you that the book looks amazing.. .

I hate you!!

ViperXTR · Nov 26, 2011

Immediately Ban the Deadly Videogame Known as "SkyRim" for The Safety of America's Youths.
lol

crazyeyesreaper · Nov 26, 2011

lol read the names on the petition

Potema

Idaryn

Talos etc

Frizz · Nov 26, 2011

I wonder if there will be enough trolls in the US to actually get the 25k petition hahaha, I would not be surprised.

Mussels · Nov 26, 2011

now that i'm headless (its not fixing itself, even with sexchanges!) i'm experiencing random CTD's.

ViperXTR · Nov 26, 2011

Maven Black Briar
Briar meadery
lol

Mussels · Nov 26, 2011

i gotta admit, its funny

Black Panther · Nov 26, 2011

A short 5 second video showing the bad effect 11.11b had on my game:

1Kurgan1 · Nov 26, 2011

Best place ever to record a clip, I love that guy talking, great sound clip, lol.

Frizz · Nov 26, 2011

Hmm flying mammoth? It happened more than once while I was levelling my destruction magic lol it ends up falling on a tree and dying :S.

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OFFICIAL Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim (Discussion)

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