Core i5-3570K Graphics 67% Faster Than Core i5-2500K, 36% Slower Than GeForce GT 240

[Halk]

There's now a significant amount of graphical grunt in these CPUs... does anyone else feel a little touch of regret forking out for a fair portion of silicon that will go unused?

 

[eidairaman1]

There's now a significant amount of graphical grunt in these CPUs... does anyone else feel a little touch of regret forking out for a fair portion of silicon that will go unused?

Considering Gamers/Enthusiasts wont use the Gpu portion. Plus there is no way to link it with Crossfire/SLi. I think Intel should honestly release non Gpu models that dont have the gpu disabled(no wasted space on cpu) for less price.

 

[Dent1]

Random question, with AMD's Llano APUs, can the discrete GPU crossfire with a dedicated GPU?

 

[Zen_]

Random question, with AMD's Llano APUs, can the discrete GPU crossfire with a dedicated GPU?

Yes, the graphics in Fusion APU's can be CF'd with certain discrete cards. I guess it's technically a value added bonus, but in practice if the APU graphics are not enough for your needs a regular CPU + discrete card is a better value.

Personally I sold my 2500k + 6850 awhile ago since the only games I play now are Day of Defeat Source & Guild Wars...replaced with cheapo A4-3400 and it works just fine. Intel needs to stay competitive with AMD in integrated graphics because there are a lot of people who do want to play games like League of Legends, CoD4, CS:S, and flash based games that can be GPU accelerated more efficiently (think laptop users play facebook games). There's no reason for this crowd to have a discrete card. Also, the capabilities of GPGPU have been steadily growing.

 

[Suhidu]

Random question, with AMD's Llano APUs, can the discrete GPU crossfire with a dedicated GPU?

Only up to HD 6670 (if A8/A6).
http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/dual-graphics/pages/dual-graphics.aspx

What confuses me is, why does AMD put the discrete video cards on the mainstream CPUs. Why don't they put GPUs on the enthusiast range too. Like surely they could put a 6850 on a Bulldozer or Phenom II die if they wanted?

Good points have already been made about why this isn't done, but another thing to consider is that the FM1 socket, platform, boards, etc... was built with display output in mind (as where AM3+ was built from old AM3).

 

[Steevo]

What is this 720 bullshit?


Again, Intel, I haven't run those resolutions for 10+ years except on the laptops. And we aren't comparing a mobile chip are we? So this wonderful news is just fodder for the toilet paper.

 

[NC37]

lol, people actually thought Intel would get decent graphics for IB. Intel IGPs...the perpetual Bulldozer of graphics

 

[EpicShweetness]

Considering Gamers/Enthusiasts wont use the Gpu portion. Plus there is no way to link it with Crossfire/SLi. I think Intel should honestly release non Gpu models that dont have the gpu disabled(no wasted space on cpu) for less price.

Not entirely sure if that would be efficient, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the IGP parts in the Intel chips able to gate themselves so much as to have 1w or less? If so making different silicon would be a waste of fabrication.
At any rate I agree the raw x86 power, and cost of the Intel chip's negate the desire for a "performance" IGP, that's AMD's job honestly. Most Intel rig's run discrete graphics, but those that don't are for work/business, so why make the IGP more powerful if all your gonna do is basic functions!
Hmmm ... ... wonder what the TDP would be on "Ivy" if they just shrunk HD 3000?

 

[Borc]

Found a review with both an A8-3850 and a GT 240 here

Anandtech used a GT240 with DDR3 1600 DDR3 memory, expreview DDR3 1800 memory.

 

[PopcornMachine]

My only problem with Sandy Bridge is the IGP that I'm never going to use.

Probably the same for Ivy Bridge, but can't say until I see some benchmarks and know the pricing.

Of course an IGP that could really do something is another matter. If it's not even a GT240, then saying it's 67% faster than 2500k is just marketing talk targeted at stupid people.

Regardless, don't care how they compare in that regard at all. This information is next to useless.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

How about the Xeon dual socket version of this chip. If it could combine combine graphics performance, now that would be decent enough for most people, and every reason for everyone to buy a workstation board and for Intel to sell twice as many CPU chips

Sure let's all buy a dual socket board for $500, 2 xeon processors for $600 just to get similar gaming performance as a mid range GPU that costs $50. You should work for Intel...

 

[Wile E]

Meh. Again, not very useful to me.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

How much is the power consumption of the HD4000? If it's like 10w watts compared to the GT240's 50w it might be a bit more impressive.

 

[Halk]

Perhaps they'll introduce a smaller subset with busted graphics modules? In the same way AMD have tri-core and dual core chips which are cut down because they didn't validate then Intel will sell on the units that didn't validate on graphics?

 

[badtaylorx]

given the 3dmark P score and the GPU P score can we not extrapolate the cpu score???

 

[xenocide]

Not a bad improvement over the last generation. Obviously a discrete solution will always be preferable, but I was expecting minimal gains going from HD3000->HD4000.

 

[qubit]

So the graphics are way better but still weak? That figures.

However, the super high resolution capability I reported on here should be interesting.

 

[mastrdrver]

Has anyone played those games on a 2500k and able to confirm at those settings that it is not a roller coaster of frame rates from high to low as the recent Intel iGPU is known for?

Also how well do these in game time demo/benchmarks compare to real game play? I know usually they don't.

 

[xenocide]

Also how well do these in game time demo/benchmarks compare to real game play? I know usually they don't.

Most of the time they are just on-rails rendered scenarios. Half-Life 2 features one, and they are generally pretty accurate, if not a little less stressful than real-time gameplay.

 

[Nihilus]

Great Imporovement!

This is pretty awesome for a CPU with this much power. Yeah yeah I'm sure the Llanos will bet it but I guess they wanted to leave room for the GPU guys. Compare the Processing power of this chip to the Llano and these will smoke 'em.

 

[naoan]

I see no reason to dislike this progress.

 

[johnspack]

Nice, should make for really efficient htpcs! Can't wait for ivy bridge e.....

 

[Xiphos]

Why are people dissing on better graphics performance? last time I checked better is good.

what I really want to know is how much faster is the quick sync feature on the Core i5-3570K than the i5 2500k?

Yeah, IGP may not be of any use to majority of gamers. but for gamers who also record and render videos, the IGP along with quick sync is very useful.

if quick sync on the Core i5-3570K Graphics is also 67% faster than Core i5-2500K, I think I might just have to upgrade.

 

[eidairaman1]

Why are people dissing on better graphics performance? last time I checked better is good.

what I really want to know is how much faster is the quick sync feature on the Core i5-3570K than the i5 2500k?

Yeah, IGP may not be of any use to majority of gamers. but for gamers who also record and render videos, the IGP along with quick sync is very useful.

if quick sync on the Core i5-3570K Graphics is also 67% faster than Core i5-2500K, I think I might just have to upgrade.

Dude You cant run the IGP and a Separate GPU at same time on that setup, either u game on a discreet GPU or you Game on the IGP cant use both at same time

 

[ensabrenoir]

Why are people dissing on better graphics performance? last time I checked better is good.

what I really want to know is how much faster is the quick sync feature on the Core i5-3570K than the i5 2500k?

Yeah, IGP may not be of any use to majority of gamers. but for gamers who also record and render videos, the IGP along with quick sync is very useful.

if quick sync on the Core i5-3570K Graphics is also 67% faster than Core i5-2500K, I think I might just have to upgrade.

Yes better is good... but they've still a ways to go . this has forever been Intels' arrow in the knee. I forsee intel conquering this soon though....with M O N E Y. They have no choice really.... they must venture where Amd/ati rules. And with amd's current rate of blood shed....there is opportunity.