Awesome Llano Overclocking Tool

[HTC]

Yeah, but Hwmonitor showed your min temps as 3 degrees, hardware can NEVER(with air cooling) be cooler than the ambient air, so my guess is your CPU is getting too hot, but the motherboard isnt aware and doesnt spin up the CPU fan to cool the CPU down. This in turn can cause thermal throttling and can also explain why your scores at 3,6GHz are actually a bit lower, since you upped the voltage a bit for that, which will cause the CPU to throttle even quicker.

I think it's the temp sensor acting up.

Here's a pic while using OCCT (attachment).

 

[Mathragh]

Then, I dont have a clue.... Perhaps someone else has a better idea?

 

[HTC]

Then, I dont have a clue.... Perhaps someone else has a better idea?

It ain't only the temps that seem messed up: check the voltages in my previous post's pic.

In any case, it's not really a problem since i'm not looking to overclock. This was a test exercise: a failed one, it seems.

 

[DaC]

Ok guys..... I just finished tweaking my llano a4-3310MX from my Samsung 305v4a notebook.
I'm using 2x2gb @1066 for awhile

units: mhz@v
P7 From 800@0.8** to 500@0.6875
P6 From 1000@0.9** to 1000@0.8125
P5 From 1200@1.050 to 1200@0.8625
P4 From 1400@1.150 to 1400@0.9250
P3 From 1600@1.2125 to 1600@0.9750
P2 From 1800@1.2750 to 2000@1.0875 @ 75.5C during OCCT stress test
P1 From 2100@1.3750 to 2500@1.2500 @ 83.5C during OCCT stress test
P0 From 2500@1.4125 to 3000@1.3625

Default clock 2100@1.3750 temps were around 83C during OCCT stress test
What do you guys think about these temps ? I saw over amd website that this cpu thermal desing is 100C.

 

[Mathragh]

Very nice!!
looks good, and those temps are OK, you wouldnt want to go a lot higher, but seeing that your stock temps were about the same, i'd say you're fine

Congratulations on the overclock man!

 

[Yo_Wattup]

You could probably try lowering the voltages further.

And I still haven't got faster RAM... must get onto that...

 

[Mathragh]

Hehe, those voltages seem about right for a laptop chip, they need a bit more voltage since they run quite a bit hotter. They're around the same volts as I use.

Also, you should get 2 of these RAM sticks, they rock for the money

 

[DaC]

Very nice!!
looks good, and those temps are OK, you wouldnt want to go a lot higher, but seeing that your stock temps were about the same, i'd say you're fine

Congratulations on the overclock man!

Thanks man! This software you showed me is really great!
I miss the gpu and north bridge settings to be working..... well anyway, one day they'll probably make it work...

You could probably try lowering the voltages further.

And I still haven't got faster RAM... must get onto that...

Well... I actually can't..... on all my tests I lowered the vcore to the point the system locked or reboot then uped a notch the vcore and repeated the stress tests.... these really are the minimum for my chip....
To tell the truth I just had to up a notch the P0 state from the turbo.

I'm planning to get these rams Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 13...

I'm only concerned because I saw nowhere whatever this chip supports 8gb of ram.

 

[Mathragh]

I'm planning to get these rams Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 13...

I'm only concerned because I saw nowhere whatever this chip supports 8gb of ram.

Yeah, i dont know whether NB voltage and divider will ever be supported, but we can always hope I'm more curious as to whether Trinity will be supported aswell. Would be awesome for people to be able to OC and undervolt that too when it comes out.

And your chip does support 8GB of 1333MHz RAM, so you dont have to worry about that.

 

[InternalSys]

Ok.So, i tested this awsome Tweaker tool, but something was wrong. I set my multiplier at 40x and the CPU worked at 4000Mhz - talking about AMD Athlon 631, and then i tested it on Passmark benchmarkin tool and i recieved the same result - 3300score, as on stock freq, also the same happened with the SuperPI benchmark i had the same results- 28s, as stock freq on really higher freq then normal, so prolly this tool isnt workin for me.

This was weird, then i took the overclockin software provided by Asrock named Asrock eXtreme tuner, and clocked it a bit only, the CPU was workin at 3,1 ghz instead 2,6 and then i tested it and the results greatly increased the Passmark score was like 4k and the SuperPI 1mb was 24s, even if the passmark score is really lower then passmark average, and i dont know why is that, iam trying to find out since i bought it, the same problem apears with the GPU, still the performances increased abit , if i compare it with that tweakin tool that only shows that the CPU works higher but nothing really happened

 

[Mathragh]

Ok.So, i tested this awsome Tweaker tool, but something was wrong. I set my multiplier at 40x and the CPU worked at 4000Mhz - talking about AMD Athlon 631, and then i tested it on Passmark benchmarkin tool and i recieved the same result - 3300score, as on stock freq, also the same happened with the SuperPI benchmark i had the same results- 28s, as stock freq on really higher freq then normal, so prolly this tool isnt workin for me.

This was weird, then i took the overclockin software provided by Asrock named Asrock eXtreme tuner, and clocked it a bit only, the CPU was workin at 3,1 ghz instead 2,6 and then i tested it and the results greatly increased the Passmark score was like 4k and the SuperPI 1mb was 24s, even if the passmark score is really lower then passmark average, and i dont know why is that, iam trying to find out since i bought it, the same problem apears with the GPU, still the performances increased abit , if i compare it with that tweakin tool that only shows that the CPU works higher but nothing really happened

This is weird indeed, HTC also tried to OC his desktop Llano with this tool, but his scores also did not really improve.
On the other hand, Yo_Whatup has had some succes with his desktop chip.

I dont know whats going on here, but apparently it does not work in all cases.
Have you tried running it in administrator mode?(just trying to spam some ideas)

 

[InternalSys]

This is weird indeed, HTC also tried to OC his desktop Llano with this tool, but his scores also did not really improve.
On the other hand, Yo_Whatup has had some succes with his desktop chip.

I dont know whats going on here, but apparently it does not work in all cases.
Have you tried running it in administrator mode?(just trying to spam some ideas)

Iam on admin acc all the time the problem is... the settings works. My CPU-Z shows the CPU works on 4GHz, but for real when u test it , it actually works on stock freqs, whle the Asrock extreme utility shows only the multiplier was increased and the CPU freq is the same, so maybe thats the problem. Maybe i should delete that tool, then try again, but i dont think that will solve the problem with the low scores, my system got another problem i think , and thats UNDERPOWER PSU, thats also why my gpu keeps to have like 13k scores on 3dmark 03 , and CPU have way lower results then passmark average, cos it cant get enought power from the PSU.

So, i wonder, can the PSU be the problem to the components since it delivers max 230Wats of power, while the components spend way more

 

[Mathragh]

Iam on admin acc all the time the problem is... the settings works. My CPU-Z shows the CPU works on 4GHz, but for real when u test it , it actually works on stock freqs, whle the Asrock extreme utility shows only the multiplier was increased and the CPU freq is the same, so maybe thats the problem. Maybe i should delete that tool, then try again, but i dont think that will solve the problem with the low scores, my system got another problem i think , and thats UNDERPOWER PSU, thats also why my gpu keeps to have like 13k scores on 3dmark 03 , and CPU have way lower results then passmark average, cos it cant get enought power from the PSU.

So, i wonder, can the PSU be the problem to the components since it delivers max 230Wats of power, while the components spend way more

Having a PSU that is rated below your used power is always a bad idea. Its indeed a wise descision to replace that, and your ram before expecting any real results

 

[InternalSys]

Having a PSU that is rated below your used power is always a bad idea. Its indeed a wise descision to replace that, and your ram before expecting any real results

Ok, so whats the power of the PSU i should take, so it can be good enought for my PC, but to be cheap, and about the RAM, i should take another stick and not change it

 

[DaC]

And your chip does support 8GB of 1333MHz RAM, so you dont have to worry about that.

Sweet! Thank you for the info.

Ok, so whats the power of the PSU i should take, so it can be good enought for my PC, but to be cheap, and about the RAM, i should take another stick and not change it

I would say any good PSU above 450w is enough for most systems today....

Take a look at this page, go for the "lite" version and it'll be enough to enlight you on your decision.... http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
Just take into consideration that an overclocked hardware usually eats a lot of more power than stock one when pushed too hard.

 

[InternalSys]

Sweet! Thank you for the info.



I would say any good PSU above 450w is enough for most systems today....

Take a look at this page, go for the "lite" version and it'll be enough to enlight you on your decision.... http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
Just take into consideration that an overclocked hardware usually eats a lot of more power than stock one when pushed too hard.

Yeh, thank you i already seen that site and used it

And i just used it again and it says:


Minimum PSU Wattage: 215 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: 265 W

 

[Mathragh]

I bet that isnt ment for someone who overclocks his PC though, you could double that if you want to be safe for overclocking

 

[HTC]

Ok.So, i tested this awsome Tweaker tool, but something was wrong. I set my multiplier at 40x and the CPU worked at 4000Mhz - talking about AMD Athlon 631, and then i tested it on Passmark benchmarkin tool and i recieved the same result - 3300score, as on stock freq, also the same happened with the SuperPI benchmark i had the same results- 28s, as stock freq on really higher freq then normal, so prolly this tool isnt workin for me.

This was weird, then i took the overclockin software provided by Asrock named Asrock eXtreme tuner, and clocked it a bit only, the CPU was workin at 3,1 ghz instead 2,6 and then i tested it and the results greatly increased the Passmark score was like 4k and the SuperPI 1mb was 24s, even if the passmark score is really lower then passmark average, and i dont know why is that, iam trying to find out since i bought it, the same problem apears with the GPU, still the performances increased abit , if i compare it with that tweakin tool that only shows that the CPU works higher but nothing really happened

This is weird indeed, HTC also tried to OC his desktop Llano with this tool, but his scores also did not really improve.
On the other hand, Yo_Whatup has had some succes with his desktop chip.

I dont know whats going on here, but apparently it does not work in all cases.
Have you tried running it in administrator mode?(just trying to spam some ideas)

Yup: the only success i've had with this tool, thus far, is the undervolting i'm doing. Zero luck with overclocking: it says it's overclocking (CPU-Z, FusionTweaker) but it doesn't show any results when actually testing, same as InternalSys.

Since i was just wondering how high i could go while undervolting and wasn't planning on keeping the overclock, it's no big deal but InternalSys and others might actually want to OC their APUs, unlike me.

In any case, i want to thank Mathragh and any others who tried to troubleshoot this problem.

 

[Mathragh]

No problem at all man! Thats what we're here for!"

I just wish we could find out why this program seems so dodgy =D

Perhaps its a good idea to make a ticket at the programmers' site, let him take a look at the problem.

 

[InternalSys]

As few other dudes said, the tweaking tool isnt working for everybody, but i noticed another problem. I tried instead changing the CPU/PCi-X speed, i changed the CPU multiplier in the BIOS settings and some weird thing happened, after that i logged into windows and checked Everest and CPU-z and they were showing that my CPU runs at 4GHZ 40x multiplier, but when i tested it, it showed that thats just FAKE thing since the scores were like on stock frequencies. After that i tried to overclock it again from the bios but instead changing the multiplier i overclocked the CPU frequency and then when i came back the results on benchmarks were way better. So it seems there is some BUG in the bios when u put any other multiplier thats bigger then stock multiplier in my case 26x it's just not working, its not affecting the CPU frequency and performance at all, even if it shows on some programs that it runs on much higher speeds, thats so false. The only program i used and it shows the real values is the Asrock Extreme overclockin tool, and thats the only tool that shows the real CPU frequency.

It seems that, thers bug in the ASROCK MBs or something like that, that is causin that problem, so you cant increase the multiplier... you can increase it but its just fake


So if anyone goin to those Asrock or whatever forums, will be good to write to BIOS devs about these problem, that needs to be solved.

So, this means Tweaking tool works, but... not always cos there is multiplier bug, the only way i noticed that let you overclock your CPU without increasing multi is to increase the freq

thats it,comment

 

[InternalSys]

Forgot to mention, tested Asrock overclocking tool, the Tweaking tool and BIOS tool, and the freq with the multiplier cannot be changed for real

 

[Mathragh]

Okay, well, HTC has a gigabyte mobo, so I guess it isnt just the Asrock motherboards that are affected by it. I wonder what the creator of the tool has to say about it.

 

[InternalSys]

Lawl Athlon 631 overclock

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/29095410.jpg/

it was at 6k ghz

 

[HTC]

It seems that, thers bug in the ASROCK MBs or something like that, that is causin that problem, so you cant increase the multiplier... you can increase it but its just fake

Okay, well, HTC has a gigabyte mobo, so I guess it isnt just the Asrock motherboards that are affected by it. I wonder what the creator of the tool has to say about it.

It seems AsRock isn't the only board maker affected by this because my gigabyte one suffers from the same problem, as Mathragh pointed out.

There's a new beta BIOS for my board that has updated AGESA code but i have yet to install it.

 

[InternalSys]

It seems AsRock isn't the only board maker affected by this because my gigabyte one suffers from the same problem, as Mathragh pointed out.

There's a new beta BIOS for my board that has updated AGESA code but i have yet to install it.

When you update it , tell me whats fixed and does it work properly