GTX 680 Generally Faster Than HD 7970: New Benchmarks

[cadaveca]

These are Canadian dollars? The 7970 had a MSRP of $600 over there?

Yes, it does, with most cards selling for $569-$649, or more. the lower-priced cards, in my own city, are never in stock. If these cards matched US prices locally, i'd have bought a couple, but the clear price gouging on the side of the retailers helped convinced me to wait for Kepler, in hopes that those prices would drop accordingly.

 

[beck24]

Looks good with pre release drivers. single GPU and especially SLI improvements over time can be dramatic with Nvidia. can't wait for actual release and real benches!

 

[amdftw]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

 

[N3M3515]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

MMM, i doubt it.
Source?

 

[TRWOV]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

I was thinking something along these lines when the 7870 got results comparable with the 7950/70 BUT if this turns out to be true, AMD is being lame.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

Are these the same as the drivers for Bulldozer?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

I have never in the last 4 years seen a AMD driver that boosts the performance up to 10-15%. I had a HD5870 about 2 years ago and there was only one driver that actually gave me good performance. Any of the ones after that causes me microstutter, horrible FPS, etc.

 

[HTC]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!
AMD purposely held back the performance on these cards, if the NV will release their new series cards. Now the time has come!
So if GTX680 will lead 5-10% compared with HD7970, with the new driver the AMD will be again the king!

This would explain why the 7870 is so close to the 7950 but i very much doubt it.

I'll believe it when i see it.

 

[NHKS]

Good news for HD7970 and 7950 owners!
AMD will release a new performance driver in april which boost 10-15% performance on these cards!

is the performance boost free?

 

[cadaveca]

is the performance boost free?

You know...


I've always wondered why these GPUs, nearly all of which hit 1000 MHz with ease...weren't billed as the world's first 1 GHz DX11 GPU, or some schtuff like that.


But, if there is a planned driver revision that plans to increase performance by 20%, it explains why these cards can for the most part clock higher than 20% over stock, as the increased power draw from delivering that extra perforamnce needs to be planned for too...


With the low-low power consumption and cool operating temps of the 7970, and the huge overhead in stock cooler cooling capacity...AMD might just have pulled the wool over nVidia's eyes. It would NOT be the first time, although such has not happened in ages...






OR....





It's all BS.


Occam's Razor says it's BS. I'll go with that.

 

[NHKS]

I would call it 'planned ambush'

 

[MxPhenom 216]

You know...


I've always wondered why these GPUs, nearly all of which hit 1000 MHz with ease...weren't billed as the world's first 1 GHz DX11 GPU, or some schtuff like that.


But, if there is a planned driver revision that plans to increase performance by 20%, it explains why these cards can for the most part clock higher than 20% over stock, as the increased power draw from delivering that extra perforamnce needs to be planned for too...


With the low-low power consumption and cool operating temps of the 7970, and the huge overhead in stock cooler cooling capacity...AMD might just have pulled the wool over nVidia's eyes. It would NOT be the first time, although such has not happened in ages...






OR....





It's all BS.


Occam's Razor says it's BS. I'll go with that.

if the hd7970 has low power consumption then the GTX680 will hve even lower if the TDP is anything like what the consumption will be like. since the HD7970 as a 210w TDP

 

[Aquinus]

if the hd7970 has low power consumption then the GTX680 will hve even lower if the TDP is anything like what the consumption will be like. since the HD7970 as a 210w TDP

What makes you say that? nVidia has always been a bit high on the side of power consumption and heat.

 

[amdftw]

MMM, i doubt it.
Source?

Inside beta drivers, tested with 7970 which will be the base of a 12.4 driver.
This driver has not available yet for users.
It might be AMD will release beta performance driver in next 1 or 2 weeks, the final will arrive in april.

Watch this bench: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/13.html
7870 beat the 7970? YES!
That was because the 7870/50 was tested with the very early performance driver which was the very early base of the final perf. driver.
The 7970/50 results only made with the 2 months old driver.

Just look everybody when the 7970/50 get the final perf. driver!

 

[MxPhenom 216]

What makes you say that? nVidia has always been a bit high on the side of power consumption and heat.

yeah but thats also when there TDP was off the charts high.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Inside beta drivers, tested with 7970 which will be the base of a 12.4 driver.
This driver has not available yet for users.
It might be AMD will release beta performance driver in next 1 or 2 weeks, the final will arrive in april.

I think he asked for a source like a link of reputable information.

 

[NHKS]

What makes you say that? nVidia has always been a bit high on the side of power consumption and heat.

in case u have nt seen this power consumption chart.... as tested by hkepc.com

 

[eidairaman1]

read the charts on here for the 7900,7800,7700 series power charts. I dont trust anything till its officially launched

 

[Crap Daddy]

From what we see clock for clock 7970 and the 680 are about the same in synthetic benchmarks but games are different. Now, the 680 seem to have an advantage in being more efficient to reach those clocks so I don't think that AMD will stand a chance in an arms race based on who can get higher clocks. I think there is a very good reason why the 7970 was clocked at 925 and I suspect that the GK104 was clocked higher because it has to pull ahead since it's decided it's the GTX680 and not some 670 or 660. And of course... because it can.

 

[techtard]

I don't think AMD is going to release a magic driver to boost performance. They are notorious for having shoddy drivers.
Unless their new president personally fires their whole software team and hires better software engineers, they will continue to have excellent hardware that is saddled with inferior drivers.

 

[NHKS]

From what we see clock for clock 7970 and the 680 are about the same in synthetic benchmarks but games are different. Now, the 680 seem to have an advantage in being more efficient to reach those clocks so I don't think that AMD will stand a chance in an arms race based on who can get higher clocks. I think there is a very good reason why the 7970 was clocked at 925 and I suspect that the GK104 was clocked higher because it has to pull ahead since it's decided it's the GTX680 and not some 670 or 660. And of course... because it can.

Add to that effect of FXAA or even new TXAA..

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Add to that effect of FXAA or even new TXAA..

the new TXAA looks nuts! Im excited to try it out.

 

[skullforge]

offtopic:
7870 @1500mhz on stock cooling

http://lab501.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1500.jpg

http://lab501.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/11_8.jpg

 

[cadaveca]

if it's off topic, why post?:shadedshu

 

[skullforge]

cause it's awesome
hoping the 680 will overclock the same!