Ok just for that I'm going back and unlocking everything for the L85
Personally I like the gun.
I liked it before the patch, haven't used it more than twice since the patch. I used it a lot until I started unlocking stuff for the VAL and G3. I migrated once I did. I get pretty tired of having to learn to shoot a gun I used prior because they nerfed the shit out of it.
I'm not saying the L85 is a bad gun, it just doesn't fit my personal playstyle. It's a bullpup with a slow fire rate, for me personally it just feels like a small gun that wants to be a big gun. I know even before the patch there was some people who dominated with it, so I know it's a capable weapon.
Well, considering I was on the alpha and beta teams for BF2, BF2142, BFBC, BF BC2, and BF3, I'm pretty sure i know how fast DICE can have a patch. I've watched them patch servers, LIVE.
Making a patch takes a simple line edit in the code to change weapon stats. TESTING said patch takes longer.
Point and match? I didn't think it needed to be said, but I guess it had to come from your own mouth here. Patches need to be tested, when you don't test something, you just end up breaking something else, how do you think we got this bug in the first place?
Well, considering most of us in the TS has been using the MASS this weekend, and you haven't used it, I just suggest you give it a try. Come to your own conclusions about what the DART ammo does, or whatever, but to comment about how a weapon behaves when you haven't even used it recently, seems a bit, well...whatever.
I also find it funny you give me the goods on using a nerf'd gun when you've admitted using the USAS when it was nerf'd. Pot calling the kettle black?
Frankly, I'm not using the DART, I'm using the MASS but call it the DART. And yes, it's very intentional. SInce that's what started this whole thing.
Like, it's no big deal, but really, once you've tried the MASS, you'll see exactly what I am talking about. Everyone on the TS yesterday has...arguing about it is silly. Give it a try, then swap over to the DART...tell me then how the DART ammo modifies things. And now that you've admitted you haven't, and don't knwo what you're talking about, you can STFU, and give me an apology for talking about shit you didn't know about, jsut like I said you were.
LuLz. Tell em how muc hdamage a multi-shot round does? how do you ensure that only one hit, so you know the dmage? How do you verify that 340 damage was assigned? Oh, that's right, you cannot, you heard on the video....
Now htat last comment, and
most of these comments I've made this weekend, 1kurgan1, weren't even directed at you personally, merely at those complaining about the DART, but not the MASS....but if ya wanna take that one, be my guest.
I haven't claimed anything was BS..other than claiming just the DART was broken, and banning people for it...but not hte MASS...are you banning people for using the dart? Do you run a server? IF not, why do you think I'm even talking to you?
OH, you don't run a server, so I couldn't possibly be talking to you? Oh, really now. So you're getting all worked up..for nothing? HRM? HAve I pissed ya off some other way? Let's clear the air here....
Well I just tried the MASS ammo, and it is just as broken, while ONLY being underslung. I simply said DART earlier because I knew that was broken, and how did I know? Because it's better than the best stand alone single fire shotgun in the game (I have said this numerous times and you have never responded to that). In-fact I'm having a hard time even figuring what your argument even is, which I why I keep responding. My point is that at least that ammo type was broken, you seem to be arguing that it isn't, but then you say that the whole M26 underslung is bugged. I could honestly careless which ammo type it is, it's broken in all sorts of ways. To add to that point since you seem to be arguing only based on specifics here, we'll get real specific and see if you can narrow this down for me, point to where I ever said "
only the DART ammo is broken, and the MASS ammo isn't", if you can point to a single instance of where I said that, then I'll give oyu a cookie, if not get off my back, I never said the MASS wasn't broken, some I'm going to give you a line from your book here Dave, stfu (I feel so grown up now).
And now back to what I originally responded to, and what started this all.
The Dart, while it can be annoying, im my opinion, is not "broken" or "glitched".
It's just damn powerful.
Now today you say you were being sarcastic, after you sat and argued it for numerous posts. I'm sorry Dave, but I don't know if you can understand, but type doesn't always convey sarcasm well, especially when you back up your sarcasm with an argument like it's actually a point you were trying to make (then continue to argue that subject into the next day). I stand by what I have said this entire time, the DART underslung is broken, it just so happens the MASS ammo is as well. Then to top it off, you now say you use the DART and call it a MASS. Well I use a M60 and call it a PP-19
I like how you keep making arguments and expect people to figure out that half of your post isn't even true information
Sorry Dave, no apologies from me, I do like that it seems your now getting worked up. Yesterday on my first post I was fired up a bit right off the bat, but I went back and edited it to the version you seen, because honestly, whats the point in getting upset? But now you tell me to STFU and apologize
After you test the accuracy of a gun then some how correlate that to damage
then call my testing methods flawed.
I think you a bit confused as to what I was saying about people using the DART here. I never gave anyone the goods, I was simply responding to what you said above, that the DART is not broken, only powerful. I could careless if someone here wants to use it, maybe if they rape me a bunch with it I might say something, but even then probably not as I just assume they are trolling and my rage would only fuel them. I'm not sure what you're talking about with me using the USAS when it wasn't nerf'd? Maybe you mean post patch? I'm not sure, I haven't used that weapon in a few months though, I loved it for a bit, but found that it wasn't what I wanted in a weapon, I hate getting killed by a guy at 100 yards and knowing I can only pepper him, so I mostly just stopped using shotguns for that reason. So I think you read far too much into what I was saying. Also would like to clarify I haven't take any of your comments personally, what could be taken personally here? I think once again you are reading too much into my responses, I'm simply talking semantics, I gave the tip of off aim based on watching my own recordings, watching what you have done sometimes just points out things in a different light. And as far as servers banning for the DART and not the MASS, once again I never said the MASS wasn't broken, it seems more a case of people realized the DART was first and no one has ventured off what works. I'm not sure what your last sentence even means though, I mean I know your talking to me based off you actually quoting me, or is that not what quotes are for?
As far as figuring exactly how much damage, just did the testing with Marineborn and I, did this just for you Dave, so I hope that makes you feel special.
1 pellet from Underslung MASS put Marineborn to 66%
1 pellet from Underslung DART put Marineborn to 66%
1 pellet from the 870 Buckshot put Marineborn to 84%
(I got video of this is it's really needed, but honestly already gone far enough out of my way)
So as I said yesterday, the DART is broken (I never said the MASS wasn't (so I'm not even sure why you are arguing with me about something I didn't say). Seems the MASS ammo is broken as well, and the 870 was the control for the test. At best both of those ammo types should only be on par with the 870 at best, they shouldn't be 2x the damage. And now as far as only having my info from Youtube, shove it
34 damage from DART/MASS rounds means 408 damage from all pellets combined vs 192 for the 870, so obviously not bugged right
And Dave, just for you, I'll return the favor of being sarcastic and lie about information in the future just to return the trolling, then ask why you are confused at the horrible information I just gave that makes no sense. I still can't believe you were honestly arguing with me simply because I said DART, when it was the only one I knew for sure was bugged, but didn't deny the MASS possibly being bugged, this all seems so pointless, lol. My point is simply they are bugged, your original post said they weren't I don't understand why you seemed confused by me responding.
