2600-2666MHz Speed Demon RAM Sticks

[Aquinus]

2400-2600 7-11-7-28 1T 1.8v

1.8v is going to kill your CPU's IMC. 1.65 really shouldn't be exceeded using Intel CPUs.

 

[DOM]

yeah its not for everyday use just for benching

just cant belive some old ram can run better then some 2400

ill set it at 1.5-1.65v she how they clock

 

[Ninjawithagun]

yeah its not for everyday use just for benching

just cant belive some old ram can run better then some 2400

ill set it at 1.5-1.65v she how they clock

There are several factors that you failed to mention by stating that you can run your 'old' DDR3 memory at 2400Mhz. First off, by the screen shots shown, some things are evident:

1) You are running the wrong version of CPU-Z; use the 64-bit version and not the 32-bit version...this is evident because several of the fields are grayed out (no info given).

2) You are running what appears to be only 4GB of DDR3 and in dual channel mode, which means that you are only running two sticks. The total number of sticks of memory will dictate how low you can set latencies. As a general rule, the more sticks of memory used in a configuration limits how low latencies and command rate can be set. The other governing factor is of course the capability of the RAM itself.

3) The use of any DRAM voltage above 1.65V will fry your RAM over time and may cause permanent damage to your CPUs IMC as well, regardless of how often you do it - the damage will become evident over time as your CPU will not be able to hold stable overclocks anymore and eventually will result in a CPU that can not overclock at all - I've seen this exact end result posted in several forums for those who get a bit too ambitious in trying to overclock their systems.

Please provide more specific information regarding your particular setup. Exactly which memory are you running (model number and revision number), and how many sticks and capacity (1GB, 2GB, 4GB, etc) are occupying what DIMMs on the motherboard (single channel or dual channel), and what BIOS are you running on your motherboard? You get the idea. That way, the information you provide is much more specific and helpful to other enthusiasts!

 

[cadaveca]

1. Nothing is of any concern here. Items are greyed out because they do not show on this platform.

2. 7-11-7 timings indicates he's probably running PSC-based 2 GB DIMMs.

2. Running higher voltage is something DOM is personally aware of, IMHO. He knows the risks.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

1. Nothing is of any concern here. Items are greyed out because they do not show on this platform.

2. 7-11-7 timings indicates he's probably running PSC-based 2 GB DIMMs.

2. Running higher voltage is something DOM is personally aware of, IMHO. He knows the risks.

Still, I would like to see his CPU-Z Validator link first and not just a screen shot

 

[cadaveca]

Meh, that speed and those timings are no big deal, to be honest. That's how IVB clocks memory is all. I don't need a screenshot to know it's more than likely 100% legit...just because it's DOM(nevermind that I have 4 kits here capable of the same).

SB and SB-E largely clock ram the same, although SB-E can push ram a bit further. Ivybridge is a whole other animal, allowing 2800 MHz(1400 MHz)++. Many valids with 3000+ Mhz have been shown in the past month or so.



If you are interested in clocking like that, HWBOT is a invaluable resource, as they do "police" results. Take a gander over there, or on some of the more "xtreme" forums, and you'll see this is actually quite common. Z77 boards like the ASUS Maximus V Gene make it super easy to do, too.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Fastest kit in those links, is 1333mhz

The memory is in fact 2600 and 2666Mhz DDR3 memory. Yes, the CPU IMC uses a divider of 2 and a memory ratio as well (used to overclock the memory at different CPU straps). Regardless, the memory does in fact run at the advertised speeds.

 

[cadaveca]

The memory is in fact 2600 and 2666Mhz DDR3 memory. Yes, the CPU IMC uses a divider of 2 and a memory ratio as well (used to overclock the memory at different CPU straps). Regardless, the memory does in fact run at the advertised speeds.

M.Beier has been trying to make this point for some time. In a way he is right, but in a way he is not.

That ram rated @ 2666 MHz, actually runs @ 1333 MHz.

1600 MHz stuff, PC12800, runs 800 MHz.

DOm's screenshot shows 1200 MHz...that's 2400 MHz...do you see the correlation to what M.Beier is getting at? He's wasting his time, IMHO, but whatever.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Meh, that speed and those timings are no big deal, to be honest. That's how IVB clocks memory is all. I don't need a screenshot to know it's more than likely 100% legit...just because it's DOM(nevermind that I have 4 kits here capable of the same).

SB and SB-E largely cloc kram the same, although SB-E can push ram a bit further. Ivbybridge si a whoel other animal, allowing 2800 MHz(1400 MHz)++. Many valids with 3000+ Mhz have been shown in the past month or so.



If you are interested in clocknig like that, HWBOT is a invaluable resource, as they do "police" results. Take a gander over there, or on some of the more "xtreme" forums, and you'l lsee this is actually quite common. Z77 boards like the ASUS Maximus V Gene make it super easy to do, too.

Not so much a question about legitimacy (or honesty), but more so just for the sake of having some extra information provided such as voltages. There is a reason why CPU-Z validates... I don't have a problem believing that memory can run at those speeds, but for how long and is it truly stable? Does it pass Prime95 for a few hours? You get the idea.

 

[Fatal]

Still, I would like to see his CPU-Z Validator link first and not just a screen shot

You gave us information about your experience with G.Skill Ripjaws 2666 Mhz DDR3 memory. You didn’t post any screens at all. Just because you can’t reach those speeds that means nothing. I have seen many times what is rated for stuff was not reached by some but others clocked the shit out of them. You come off a bit harsh, DOM knows what he is doing.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

You gave us information about your experience with G.Skill Ripjaws 2666 Mhz DDR3 memory. You didn’t post any screens at all. Just because you can’t reach those speeds that means nothing. I have seen many times what is rated for stuff was not reach by some but others clocked the shit out of them. You come off a bit harsh, DOM knows what he is doing.

But, then again I'm not bragging about my system being able to do anything extraordinary. I've seen plenty of fake posts. Since you all seem to know him and you say he is for real and don't know me at all, here is my CPU-Z validation:

 

[cadaveca]

Not so much a question about legitimacy (or honesty), but more so just for the sake of having some extra information provided such as voltages. There is a reason why CPU-Z validates... I don't have a problem believing that memory can run at those speeds, but for how long and is it truly stable? Does it pass Prime95 for a few hours? You get the idea.

I do get the point. But 2400 MHz is hardly a big deal.

See my recent reviews here, using X79, and note pretty much every kit hit 2400 MHz, except the 32 GB kit.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Memory

Rest assured that any results I post with clocking ram in those reviews is capable of said speeds 24/7.

Now, DOM is using IVB, which clocks even better than SB-E.

Voltages and such aren't improtant, and 24/7 stability isn't always something people test for. I do expect to be reviewing kits at those speeds in the future as well, provided there is enough interest. I have a 8 GB(2x 4GB) 2400 MHz G.SKill TridentX kit review coming soon, to start with.



051 by cadaveca@TPU, on Flickr


Although you may not have had a good time with your own TridentX kit, I can simply say that is 100% because you bought ram intended for Z77, and are using it on X79. Product page is here:

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=512&c1=&c2=


Note that qualified motherboards listed are Z77 only. You had problems, because you bought the wrong ram. You should have gone with RipjawsZ or ARES kit. QWUstioning perofrmance of the ram you bought, and it's rated speeds, while using it on the wrong platform..well...such is life.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

I do get the point. But 2400 MHz is hardly a big deal.

See my recent reviews here, using X79, and note pretty much every kit hit 2400 MHz, except the 32 GB kit.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Memory

Rest assured that any results I post with clocking ram in those reviews is capable of said speeds 24/7.

Now, DOM is using IVB, which clocks even better than SB-E.

Voltages and such aren't improtant, and 24/7 stability isn't always something people test for. I do expect to be reviewing kits at those speeds in the future as well, provided there is enough interest. I have a 8 GB(2x 4GB) 2400 MHz G.SKill TridentX kit review coming soon, to start with.

It's not the question of his motherboard, but rather his G.Skill DDR3 memory he is using that is rated at 1600Mhz. Regardless, since he is running it at 2400Mhz (even though he is using hazardous voltages). Running a system at high speeds means NOTHING if it isn't stable. So what if I can run my 3930K at 5Ghz, but then can't pass one minute into Prime95, pass any of the 3DMark11 benchmark tests, or play my favorite game for 30 seconds. The whole point behind overclocking is to achieve solid and stable improvements to system performance. You know as well as I that overclocking is an art, and is not meant for the faint of heart to just crank up settings to see what happens. If ppl aren't testing to see if their system is stable at those high speeds, then what's the point?

 

[cadaveca]

You know as well as I that overclocking is an art, and is not meant for the faint of heart to just crank up settings to see what happens. If ppl aren't testing to see if their system is stable at those high speeds, then what's the point?

Overclocking is hardly "art" any more. OEMs have taken that from us long ago.


I do get your point, and I do feel the same way. However, not everyone is of the same opinion, and not everyone uses their PCs for purposes which require 24-7 stability. I understand that you have some needs there that you require, but I do not think it's preduent to force them on others.

As to 1600 MHz sticks reaching 2400 MHz, take a look at my last review, or the Samsung review. both are 1600 MHz kits, the Exceleram 2x 2 GB, the Samsung 2x 4 GB, and both did so with what I consider reasonable voltages(especially the Samsung, reaxching 2400 Mhz @ 1.575V).

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Although you may not have had a good time with your own TridentX kit, I can simply say that is 100% because you bought ram intended for Z77, and are using it on X79. Product page is here:

Note that qualified motherboards listed are Z77 only. You had problems, because you bought the wrong ram. You should have gone with RipjawsZ or ARES kit. QWUstioning perofrmance of the ram you bought, and it's rated speeds, while using it on the wrong platform..well...such is life.

I knew this when I bought the RAM, but wanted to take the risk anyway. I am not disappointed whatsoever. I am very happy with the memory and it's performance. And when the Ivy Bridge-E CPUs come out next year, I'll buy one and then will be able to run my memory at 2666Mhz and even higher

So why are you being rude to me now...

 

[cadaveca]

So why are you being rude to me now...

Rude? I'm sorry if you take it that way..Im' just stating facts. The ram you bought was never meant to be used on those boards, and in fact, is only certified for 4 motherboards at this point. All of them are Z77-based.

You used this problem you encountered as an example, which to me, isn't a good one. That is all.

Sorry for the bad news for those hoping to run the newer 2600Mhz and 2666Mhz DDR3 with their SB & Z77 or SB-E & X79 motherboard setups. I am very disappointed too. You might be able to squeeze out some Mhz (maybe even up to 2500Mhz with voltage tweaking/adjustments), but don't count on it. To give G.Skill credit, they do explicitly state that the memory is for Ivy Bridge and Z77 motherboard setups...something that I found out is indeed true

That statement I quote here above is not true. Your own expereicne cannot relate that as fact.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

I do get your point, and I do feel the same way. However, not everyone is of the same opinion, and not everyone uses their PCs for purposes which require 24-7 stability. I understand that you have some needs there that you require, but I do not think it's preduent to force them on others.

Why do you say I am forcing my requirements on other? By all means, do whatever you people want with your computers. If you want to blow them up with high voltages, by all means have at it. I am definitely not going to get in the way. Freedom!

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Rude? I'm sorry if you take it that way..Im' just stating facts. The ram you bought was never meant to be used on those boards, and in fact, is only certified for 4 motherboards at this point. All of them are Z77-based.

You used this problem you encountered as an example, which to me, isn't a good one. That is all.





That statement I quote here above is not true. Your own expereicne cannot relate that as fact.

Not stated as fact, just as preparation for potential disappointment. And why do you come off as so defiant and defensive? Isn't this suppose to be a forum of positive feedback and constructiveness? You seem to be more of a hater than one who wants to promote others to try something differently. From your first post, you have been nothing but short and rude to anyone who posted a comment. Do yourself a favor and please work on being a little more polite.

 

[cadaveca]

Do yourself a favor and please work on being a little more polite.

Thanks for the advice.

Why do you say I am forcing my requirements on other? By all means, do whatever you people want with your computers. If you want to blow them up with high voltages, by all means have at it. I am definitely not going to get in the way. Freedom!

I agree, 100%. However, we do have a strong contingent of "extreme clocking" guys here on TPU that don't have any cares for 24/7 stability..they just want to run a single benchmark and get the highest score possible. While doing such things is of not interest me me perosnally, I don't really think it's useless either. Telling them their wasting their time..to them it is not a waste of time. They bougth and paid for their parts ,tehy cna do whatever they like. But when they have problems, I'll be the first to say "stop overclocking"

 

[Ninjawithagun]

Thanks for the advice.

Why can't we be friends...at least there is a song that goes like that

 

[cadaveca]

Why can't we be friends...at least there is a song that goes like that

My job here on TPU is reviewing motherboards and memory. That's all.




Anyway, as shown, I have a set of TridentX sticks. ON X79, yeah, they are underwhleming. MY experience is quite like your own.


But on Z77...they FLY!!! It's amazing how different it is, really.

 

[DOM]

To much to read

but no im not gong to run hrs of prime... i havent ran prime since like 2007

i already ran super pi 32m a few times and its passed if it wasnt stable it wouldnt finish the test

and i was in xp thats why its showing x32

 

[DOM]

I do get the point. But 2400 MHz is hardly a big deal.

See my recent reviews here, using X79, and note pretty much every kit hit 2400 MHz, except the 32 GB kit.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/?p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Memory

Rest assured that any results I post with clocking ram in those reviews is capable of said speeds 24/7.

Now, DOM is using IVB, which clocks even better than SB-E.

Voltages and such aren't improtant, and 24/7 stability isn't always something people test for. I do expect to be reviewing kits at those speeds in the future as well, provided there is enough interest. I have a 8 GB(2x 4GB) 2400 MHz G.SKill TridentX kit review coming soon, to start with.


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051 by cadaveca@TPU, on Flickr


Although you may not have had a good time with your own TridentX kit, I can simply say that is 100% because you bought ram intended for Z77, and are using it on X79. Product page is here:

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=512&c1=&c2=


Note that qualified motherboards listed are Z77 only. You had problems, because you bought the wrong ram. You should have gone with RipjawsZ or ARES kit. QWUstioning perofrmance of the ram you bought, and it's rated speeds, while using it on the wrong platform..well...such is life.

LMK how how yours clock, and if you can run anyhing below cas 10 idk why mine dont boot never had that happen before when under clocking them

 

[cadaveca]

LMK how how yours clock, and if you can run anyhing below cas 10 idk why mine dont boot never had that happen before when under clocking them

I'll be doing the normal CAS and Voltage testing from CAS6-CAS11 and 1.50 V to 1.75 V, so I will be sure to post any issues I've encountered.

 

[Ninjawithagun]

I'll be doing the normal CAS and Voltage testing from CAS6-CAS11 and 1.50 V to 1.75 V, so I will be sure to post any issues I've encountered.

I experienced the same exact issue. After setting the CAS latency to 9 (from 10), and saved settings my system would not POST. Here is the memory I am running:

G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DD...

I am using all four sticks in a four channel memory setup and running at 2400Mhz @ 1.65V and 10-12-12-31 @ 1T

It will definitely be interesting to see what you can find out by trial and error to see if voltage increases and/or changing the number of DIMMs occupied to see if the system will be able to POST at 9 or lower CAS latencies. Something else to try to would be changing from 1T to 2T command rate.