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Intel to Begin Core "Haswell" Production in Q4

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DUDE your are a troll and you need to chill out. You seem to think that if any one says anything at all about your precious AMD that the world is coming to an END. I could give a ... what you do or what you have. REALLY DUDE it is enough already.

You really want to start that

A10-5800K thread entire thread ends because you decide AMD chips are not really overclocking

Intel 3rd quarter results

Another A10-5800K thread


Another A10-5800K thread your first post is a straight up flamebait...

Now this is just the plain truth. Big Deal can it play crysis! Useless! More FLUFF from AMD.


I happen to like Intel and AMD but If I show one hint of liking one MORE than another you get nuts! You know what I do not care any more. I LOVE MY CPU YOU LOVE YOURS! Cool but I think Intel is moving forward AND you think it is a bad thing? Or are just so ....... as to think a die shrink and change in architecture is nothing more than a lateral move? This is a NEW CPU and looks to be great,

First of all this isn't a new CPU it is a revision of IB. The same as piledriver is not a new cpu, but a revision of bulldozer. It is not slated to be an IB killer simply a core shrink and slight update.

AMD is not the ISSUE here, Remember YOU brought up AMD NOT ME! I have also been looking at my OLD ASS CPU and from what I can see AMD still hasn't done enough to even compete with Intel's OLD end! Let alone there top end. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=49 I have looked at ALL the comparisons and even AMD'S NEW line seems like a lateral move to the Q9650 at stock speed. It still takes 6 cores just to beat it in SOME BM. Now this is one reason why I have not felt the need to upgrade to the core i7. Now kindly stop thinking you know every thing please. You are making yourself look......

If you read my first post it was a joke...an obvious one at that. What happens with you after a pretty blatant joke ended?

AMD fanboys can't handle the truth.

BOOM yet another cdawall is a fanboy comment.

BTW I have owned many many AMD CHIPS In the past in fact this is the second Intel chip I have owned in 6 years and have had more than 12 AMD Chips and my first SYSTEM EVER was a AMD 486DX2!
Before any mod gets all pissed at me please think of this I did not start this in any way and I have been flame-bated. I needed to say this and much more.
I don't believe anyone flamebaited you I believe you took some (clever :laugh:) banter and freaked out.

Gentlemen, I think we need to calm down a little bit.

I have been calm this entire time most of which was joking. Heck the post you quoted I am still calm simply pointing out the shenanigans and buffoonery known as Intel's market tactics. Give it time we will see yet another anti-trust lawsuit.
 

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well i have to say this thread went oddly pair shaped eh, oh hi trickson:p

isnt haswell supposed to have an interposer with(128-256Mb) L4 cache on it for the Gt123 gfxs, surely that will bring some performance,and in the department intel needs some most at the min, im not expecting any big performance leaps from intel untill someone catches their coat tails on x86 code and im not seeing great leaps in haswell, all my own opinions.
 

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isnt haswell supposed to have an interposer with(128-256Mb) L4 cache on it for the Gt123 gfxs, surely that will bring some performance,and in the department intel needs some most at the min, im not expecting any big performance leaps from intel untill someone catches their coat tails on x86 code and im not seeing great leaps in haswell, all my own opinions.

Haswell is rumored to have a small last level cache (not level 4,) that will use DRAM on an interposer. It won't be that big, I won't expect it to be any larger than 32Mb. Haswell isn't slated to have amazing performance benefits (with the exception of graphics, once again. See what Intel is doing here?) Putting the voltage regulators on the CPU will help save power but might contribute to heat.

If anything, I'm a lot more interested to see what IVB-E will bring to the table than Haswell.
 

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+1: I've owned a Celeron, P4 2.67 & 630, C2D E6600, and my i7 3820 made by Intel. I've also owned an Athlon 64 3700+ and a phenom ii 940, so I've been predominantly an Intel guy, however, the Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego) was one of the best single core machines I've used and the 940 is one of the fastest DDR2 machines I've ever used, all while not breaking the bank. When I have money to blow (or want to blow,) I will go with whatever is better, otherwise price is the deciding factor.

With all of that said, I loved using the 940. The 3820 is by far better, but then again I would hope so. :banghead:

well look at how many years difference there is between when AM2 Launched and when 1155/2011 launched

Haswell is rumored to have a small last level cache (not level 4,) that will use DRAM on an interposer. It won't be that big, I won't expect it to be any larger than 32Mb. Haswell isn't slated to have amazing performance benefits (with the exception of graphics, once again. See what Intel is doing here?) Putting the voltage regulators on the CPU will help save power but might contribute to heat.

If anything, I'm a lot more interested to see what IVB-E will bring to the table than Haswell.

since its lessons learned from 1155 we hoping. ya 2011 is the platform to go for HEDT applications.
 

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well look at how many years difference there is between when AM2 Launched and when 1155/2011 launched

since its lessons learned from 1155 we hoping. ya 2011 is the platform to go for HEDT applications.

AM2+, the 940 was also a 45nm Deneb processor. It is just like all the other Phenom IIs, it just is limited to DDR2.

Oh yeah, got to love skt2011. skt1155 isn't bad, but 2011 offers a lot. :cool:
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AM2+, the 940 was also a 45nm Deneb processor. It is just like all the other Phenom IIs, it just is limited to DDR2.

Oh yeah, got to love skt2011. skt1155 isn't bad, but 2011 offers a lot. :cool:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48756&stc=1&d=1350606054

ok when you mention 940 im thinking of Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

Even though I know AM2/+ is 940 Pins too (layout is different) (AM3 CPUs work, AM3+ CPUs dont work)

AM3 being 941 Pins (AM2 CPUs Wont work, AM3+ CPUs work)
AM3+ being 942 Pins (AM2 CPUs Wont work)
 

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ok when you mention 940 im thinking of Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

The Athlon 64 3700+ is socket skt939, not skt940. Same stock cooling bracket, slightly different socket, just like every revision AMD has made since. I actually still have that board and processor downstairs with 2gb of DDR-400. I just don't have a place or use for it atm.

At the time I liked the 3700+ because the San Diego core had 1Mb of L2 as opposed to all of the dual-cores and other single cores that only had 512Kb per core. Good clocker, good temps. In general it was a great CPU at the time.

I chose buying a 3820 for a number of reasons and one of them was the 10Mb L3 over the i7 lineup on 1155 which stops at 8Mb for a quad-core. Also the 3820 and 3960x has 2.5Mb of L3 per core, where the 3930k has only 2Mb L3 per core.
 
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The Athlon 64 3700+ is socket skt939, not skt940. Same stock cooling bracket, slightly different socket, just like every revision AMD has made since. I actually still have that board and processor downstairs with 2gb of DDR-400. I just don't have a place or use for it atm.

Yes I know about all of this

754/940- Single Channel Athlon 64/Dual Channel Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

939 Consolidated Athlon 64/FX/Opteron to Dual channel spec, replaced both 754/940 in consumer market. 940 remained in server market

AM2/+ DDR 2 Athlon/Athlon II/ Phenom/ Phenom II

AM3/+ DDR 3 Athlon II, Phenom II, FX
 

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How did this become an AMD thread?
 
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How did this become an AMD thread?

Amd?....... Oh they live next door. Theyre having a big comming out party......they came over to borrow a stick of WIN and a cup of AWESOME;)
 

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Amd?....... Oh they live next door. Theyre having a big comming out party......they came over to borrow a stick of WIN and a cup of AWESOME;)

Oh, well all we can spare is a cup of Shut and up. :twitch: LOL.
 
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At the time I liked the 3700 because the San Diego core had 1Mb of L2 as opposed to all of the dual-cores and other single cores that only had 512Kb per core. Good clocker, good temps. In general it was a great CPU at the time.

Well thats wrong





All of those have 2mb L2's
 

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