AMD FX OC'ers Club

[n0tiert]

hi,

is there any noticeable performance boost between the 8350 and 8150 ?
stock/ OC´d

thx

 

[cadaveca]

hi,

is there any noticeable performance boost between the 8350 and 8150 ?
stock/ OC´d

thx

I do say there is.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/5.html

 

[n0tiert]

I do say there is.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/5.html

sup dave,

nice review, power draw seems improved
what about personal impression on gameplay bf3 , FarCry3...

 

[os2wiz]

yea I noticed that the board has some difficulty in keeping vcore stable. im on a budget so will probably upgrade the board and buy another same vgcard for sli! any recommendations??

also when I reset the bios to default, the vcore is even worse with their settings. shall I just set it all minimal and stock, till new board?

Yes no overclocking until you get new motherboard and auto for all settings. I know what a tight budget is. I am retired on social security and fixed pension.

As far as a nice graphics card I would have to know your price range. About 5 weeks ago I updated my graphics card. I got a nice deal from Newegg on a Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3 GB with Boost for $299 . 3 games were included for free. The performance is fantastic runs Battlefield 3 with all the bells and whistles at a very good frame rate. AMD has 12.11 beta drivers that work extremely well and give 15% performance boost over their regular drivers and have customized settings for the new games like far Cry 3, Sleeping Dogs etc. I got it for $299.

 

[os2wiz]

sup dave,

nice review, power draw seems improved
what about personal impression on gameplay bf3 , FarCry3...

Excellent game play if you have a good graphics card like a HD 7950 or a Nvidia 680. Equals the frame rates of of an I7 3770 in Battlefield 3 , Far Cry 3, Sleeping Dogs, etc. Only in older or poorly designed cpu-bound games will Intel come out ahead as far as frame rates.

 

[d1nky]

thanks. at the moment ive got an oc gts450 it runs all the games at max with 50-80fps. I got it for free so that's why its oc'd. I was more thinking about a motherboard for sli/xfire, that is am3+, user oc friendly and like you say within a budget. plus if I find another very cheap gts450 straight on sli....

 

[n0tiert]

Excellent game play if you have a good graphics card like a HD 7950 or a Nvidia 680. Equals the frame rates of of an I7 3770 in Battlefield 3 , Far Cry 3, Sleeping Dogs, etc. Only in older or poorly designed cpu-bound games will Intel come out ahead as far as frame rates.

got a 6990 and 8150 runs nice just thought about an update .....

 

[cadaveca]

got a 6990 and 8150 runs nice just thought about an update .....

You'll get a bit more VGA performance due to the general improvements that Piledriver gets over Bulldozer, for sure. Every test got a boost, except x87-based loads, which are now 100% emulated(Intel runs in hardware), hence the deficit there.

I am not sure the cost makes it worthwhile, but if you got the cash, and want a new toy to play with, FX-8350 is a good choice, IMHO. I'd be using my in my daily gamer, except I still need it for board reviews.

 

[os2wiz]

got a 6990 and 8150 runs nice just thought about an update .....

No problem hombre. I think you would be happy updating from Bulldozer. The speed of execution of utilities like winzip which is multi-threaded, databases, photoshop, is a good 15% faster than on Bulldozer FX-8150. It is fun to to overclock if you have the right motherboard a, memory and patience. I like challenges. you know that otherwise why would I be a communist for 40 years of my life.

 

[n0tiert]

hmmm strange price strategie....

fx-8350 173 Euro
fx-8150 225 Euro

atleast i save money @ end of year on Electricity bill on same perf level
1 year BD with 6990 they charged me a extra 300 Euro...... i need to get hamsters , lol
(no Peta this was a joke)

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Thought id share what ive found after my first bit of clocking my 8350 on a chv ,LLC seams to adversly affect stabillity unless set to auto and regardleess of selected vcore it doesnt set right with llc on , with it off i get my requested 1.42 and a stable 4.7 with vref at 214 ,nb and ht at 2420 and 2057 mem

 

[cadaveca]

Thought id share what ive found after my first bit of clocking my 8350 on a chv ,LLC seams to adversly affect stabillity unless set to auto and regardleess of selected vcore it doesnt set right with llc on , with it off i get my requested 1.42 and a stable 4.7 with vref at 214 ,nb and ht at 2420 and 2057 mem

try setting NB to same speed as memory and leave HT @ 24xx.

NB will automatically adjust up to 2400 MHz when 2400 MHz memory is used. Running higher NB than memory affects stability in a big way from my own testing.

 

[os2wiz]

try setting NB to same speed as memory and leave HT @ 24xx.

NB will automatically adjust up to 2400 MHz when 2400 MHz memory is used. Running higher NB than memory affects stability in a big way from my own testing.

I.ve been running memory , northbridge, and HT link speed at same value. Right now it is 2308 for all of them. My only problem is I occasionally get system freezes which seem to originate from the use of my usb mouse. I switched out the mouse to a different usb mouse and it still occurs randomly and occasionally. This has been a problem since I have this Crosshairs V over a year, even with Bulldozer. So I tend not to believe it has anything to do with my overclock.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

try setting NB to same speed as memory and leave HT @ 24xx.

NB will automatically adjust up to 2400 MHz when 2400 MHz memory is used. Running higher NB than memory affects stability in a big way from my own testing.

My mem is specd upto 2133 but i cant sink memory speed with nb speed due to ratios i think wwell the menu dosnt allow it ive set it at 2200 dya think lower ?

 

[cadaveca]

I.ve been running memory , northbridge, and HT link speed at same value. Right now it is 2308 for all of them. My only problem is I occasionally get system freezes which seem to originate from the use of my usb mouse. I switched out the mouse to a different usb mouse and it still occurs randomly and occasionally. This has been a problem since I have this Crosshairs V over a year, even with Bulldozer. So I tend not to believe it has anything to do with my overclock.

USB issue is known issue with the board itself. Resolved for some USB devices with current BIOSes, just part of all ASUS products.

My mem is specd upto 2133 but i cant sink memory speed with nb speed due to ratios i think wwell the menu dosnt allow it ive set it at 2200 dya think lower ?

Yeah, I suspected you were running 1866 mem divider with a bclk boost. Just get them all in sync if you can, otherwise, might as well just drop the HTT back down and multi-clock. Easier to get stability that way, IMHO.

 

[os2wiz]

USB issue is known issue with the board itself. Resolved for some USB devices with current BIOSes, just part of all ASUS products.

Probably got it on the head there. I have the 1703 bios which is the latest, so I think I'll have to change motherboard sometime in next year. Have you checked out the new Asrock Extreme 9 with 12 x 2 power phase. It has awesome specs. Now the question is has their engineering quality improved. Can get it for $159.99 right now now on Mewegg.com. It's a full feauture board with 990FX chip set. Of course that 12X2 powerr phase could be fool's gold if the mosfet quality iis low. They claim to use gold plated Japanese capacitors.

 

[cadaveca]

I have the Extreme9 here for review, will be checking it out soon. Just installing OS on it today, actually, will be testing all week. Got some 1155 and a memory review to come first on the front page, though.

 

[os2wiz]

My mem is specd upto 2133 but i cant sink memory speed with nb speed due to ratios i think wwell the menu dosnt allow it ive set it at 2200 dya think lower ?

Not lower if your northbridge is running higher, leave it alone or try a different front side bus speed that allows for synching speeds. You can always adjust the multiplier up or down, to keep your cpu speed within range you find stable and acceptable.

 

[os2wiz]

i have the extreme9 here for review, will be checking it out soon. Just installing os on it today, actually, will be testing all week. Got some 1155 and a memory review to come first on the front page, though.

1155????

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

USB issue is known issue with the board itself. Resolved for some USB devices with current BIOSes, just part of all ASUS products.




Yeah, I suspected you were running 1866 mem divider with a bclk boost. Just get them all in sync if you can, otherwise, might as well just drop the HTT back down and multi-clock. Easier to get stability that way, IMHO.

Sort of i got nb and mem snycd at 2000 but they syncd at 1600 so im at 250 fsb vref to get 2000 ,2500 ht and 4,7 still atm

 

[cadaveca]

1155????

Intel Socket 1155...Z77 Express, etc.

Sort of i got nb and mem snycd at 2000 but they syncd at 1600 so im at 250 fsb vref to get 2000 ,2500 ht and 4,7 still atm

Ah.

 

[os2wiz]

Intel Socket 1155...Z77 Express, etc.


Yeah I forgot about those inferior Intel products. Never liked their monopoly pricing. Haven't bought one in over 16 years. Take care.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

mine is stable but gettimg hotter .it got to 68 cpu temp, damn blast my lazyness i had the stuff to lapp it and opertunity yesterday tut.

Of note i have a heavy copper ek waterblock whos face Is flat clamped with four sprung screws that i tighten fully yet it was like my cpus IHS was concaved and not makeing much contact ill recheck and might lapp it tom

 

[Irony]

I have the Extreme9 here for review, will be checking it out soon. Just installing OS on it today, actually, will be testing all week. Got some 1155 and a memory review to come first on the front page, though.

I've been looking into that board too. Dont know that it would be worth changing from my current board, fatal1ty with the same 12+2 power phase. I'll be watching your reviews


Whats the deal with AMD not having any Pcie 3.0?

 

[cadaveca]

Whats the deal with AMD not having any Pcie 3.0?

PCIe is provided by the chipset, and can be added at any time, but will wait until when it's truly beneficial to the platform. I don't see any reason for AM3+ to need it, myself.