lets make TPU hate apple a little bit less, shall we?
I think quoting myself in a post I just made, applies here:
When Jobs goes, I hope they'll lose that awful control freakery and become like a normal company. Jobs is the reason I can't stand the company.
Note that I don't personally wish him Ill though and I wish he could be cured of his cancer, an awful disease. I just don't like his evangelizing/reality distortion/control freakery style of leadership.
Also, several friends and lots of work colleagues have iPhones or other Apple devices. I never get rabid anti Apple at them, that's just retarded.
I think their PCs are just overpriced standard hardware with DRM limitations, but the iPhone is a genuinely good device and have played around with one for a bit. I just don't like the lock-in and if this subject comes up in conversation, I just politely tell them so.
About a year back, I found a forum that was specifically created as an Apple hate forum. While I agreed with their views on Apple, I think there's something wrong with basing your whole existence just on hating a company and doesn't do your stress levels any good - especially if they become ever more successful, because then it really rubs it in. They wanted moderators too, but I passed. And no, I can't remember the name of that forum.
I just remember that the page style had a lot of things in red.
, I've got a Ipod 4th G 8gb.
), so I didn't get it. Gotta wait now .... 
