OFFICIAL Battlefield 4 (Discussion)

[1Kurgan1]

Can't say I've ever noticed this one. And I tend to hop all over the damn place without even thinking about it...a hold over from old school FPS days.

Overall I agree, though.

I don't think they actually do the hand plant. But I know for sure it's an awkward jump that you noticeably move slow and high step of some sort. Will happen a lot going up hills (because it thinks you are trying to leap the hill I guess), and sometimes while going down hills.

Also the rock, paper, scissors mechanics with knifing I hadn't even gone into. You must be behind your target, or at shoulders side. Or you can sprint directly at them, jump, fly through the air, turn around in mid air, grab on and cinematic knife. Just some stupid mechanics, you can only cinematic knife if your character actually does an animation raising his hand in the air. Even if you know it should be a lock, it won't be unless that happens (this is if you have your knife out). If you don't have the knife out and it should be lock, but it isn't, you just swipe them and are stuck with the knife out and your pants down as they turn around and ask you what the hell you are doing before inserting the barrel into your unmentionables. (This cinematic topic fills me with rage)

 

[erocker]

Has anyone read this over at NextPowerUp!? If so, what do you guys think about BF4 being F2P?

Awhile back, I would have said Hell no!... But since playing a few good F2P games (PathofExile, and PlanetSide2), I think I'll welcome it with open arms.

Okay, who knows what's going to happen.

EA CEO steps down: http://kotaku.com/5991181/ea-ceo-john-riccitiello-steps-down

 

[Mindweaver]

Okay, who knows what's going to happen.

EA CEO steps down: http://kotaku.com/5991181/ea-ceo-john-riccitiello-steps-down

Wow! I didn't see that coming. I wonder if EA will lay all there short comings onto him? I bet so.

EDIT: I guess with all the crap going on with SimCity it's not surprising... Now that I think about it.

 

[kid41212003]

Thats the problem, knifing is an absolute horrible last ditch attempt in a CQ situation. Because last ditch effort means you are under heavy fire, and even if they do fix the registration, they will never remove that window of time that you can die as you reach towards you target, grab him, and start moving the knife towards them. Using the knife as a last ditch effort in BF3 just gets you killed. And fixing some buggy knifing will go a small ways, but not all the way. It's a crappy mechanic, and theres other ways they could imrpove upon knifing if they feel Rambo knifers are still a problem.

Which that brings up the other side of the argument. You can be killed as you are moving the knife towards your target. But the intenetion of the system is, after you have that knife in your target, you are now Superman himself. You are absolutely invincible. Damage stacks on you, but you will not die until you have finished killing that man. And so many times have I had to wait for a knife to end to even see if I stacked on enough damage. And I wait because theres been times I assumed they were dead, and I proceed on only to be shot or knifed by the target I thought was dead (but you can't kill Superman). And that most likely won't change either, they can't give you a super sweet cinematic knife if you can be killed at any point during it. It's overall a crappy system, and thats just for knifing, I'm going to continue my rant of cinematics to jumping now.

Explain how awesome it is when you are running down a slightly incline that you press jump and your solider plants his hand on an invisible wall and vaults over it? Or explain how awesome it is when you want to jump into a yellow garbage bin, but you can't you just sit there in pogo, after a few jumps you get irritated, keep slamming on jump, then just get shot in the back and die, because you were trying to leap into the damn thing for cover, but you can't trigger the damn cinematic.

I'm sorry, you can't convince me cinematics should stick around, especially with an arguement only based on rambo knifers. It's plenty possible to knife and play with teamwork, I did it all the time in BC2. It allowed me to get on flags and cap them without appearing on the minimap by firing my gun. And if people truly listened they could tell I was there, many times I would be walking around then hear a curdling gasp of a dying man being knifed, and then I knew someone was out for blood and was close.

Your points are valid.

However, in order for a game to move forward, it needs to take steps. Completely ignore what can be and will be is just standing still.

For me, the current animation's flaws are acceptable and don't really affect me and probably the majority of players since people are using guns more now then in bfbc2.

Gotta get in the uncanny valley before you get out

 

[GullyFoyle]

Log in to the Battlefield 4 home page, and get an "I Was There" dogtag.

Says to come back March 27 for a first look at a video.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Your points are valid.

However, in order for a game to move forward, it needs to take steps. Completely ignore what can be and will be is just standing still.

For me, the current animation's flaws are acceptable and don't really affect me and probably the majority of players since people are using guns more now then in bfbc2.

Gotta get in the uncanny valley before you get out

Of course, there's always risky steps to be made. But sticking with them into the next game is what I'm concerned about. I wouldn't say more people are using guns now, that would mean they weren't using guns before. And to be honest, I see just as many knifers in BF3 as I did in BC2.

In BC2 the knife had a use, in BF3 it just doesn't. Broken locks, too long time to kill, even trying to use it as stealth risking a broken lock or that long kill time to get spotted, I almost always just fire my gun instead rather than risk using the stealthy weapon I should be using in CQ on a single target with their back to me.

 

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Of course, there's always risky steps to be made. But sticking with them into the next game is what I'm concerned about. I wouldn't say more people are using guns now, that would mean they weren't using guns before. And to be honest, I see just as many knifers in BF3 as I did in BC2.

In BC2 the knife had a use, in BF3 it just doesn't. Broken locks, too long time to kill, even trying to use it as stealth risking a broken lock or that long kill time to get spotted, I almost always just fire my gun instead rather than risk using the stealthy weapon I should be using in CQ on a single target with their back to me.

I agree. These days, I often come across enemies with their back facing me and instead of knifing the, I shoot them since the act of knifing takes too long and has the big chance of being shot in the process.I have also, experienced the strange occurrence of being knifed by the person I am in the process of knifing. Go back to BC2 knifing, more fun, less fuss. The cinematics are cool but are not needed.

 

[caleb]

For me knifing in BF3 is bugged but its the best things they added in the game. The whole point is to make the victim suffer a longer death instead of regular "killed by".
The most omfg wtf moments are when your whole squad is on a silent knife rape.

PS.I'm at around 1300 melee kills but my friend is almost at 5000 lol.

 

[1Kurgan1]

For me knifing in BF3 is bugged but its the best things they added in the game. The whole point is to make the victim suffer a longer death instead of regular "killed by".
The most omfg wtf moments are when your whole squad is on a silent knife rape.

PS.I'm at around 1300 melee kills but my friend is almost at 5000 lol.

The cinematics don't make me suffer, knowing they have my tags is what makes me suffer, and BC2 has the samething, just better stat tracking for it.

 

[lyndonguitar]

BF4 "leaked" screens

 

[caleb]

Looks more like artwork to me.
I'd really like to see less hype on how good it looks.
fix current bugz and add destruction from BC2 and I'm happy.

 

[Mindweaver]

Teaser video!

 

[MxPhenom 216]

BF4 "leaked" screens

Jesus!

 

[Easy Rhino]

Teaser video!

wow, that was pointless...

Jesus!

please, when ever have "leaked" pictures of a game looked as good as the actual game play?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

wow, that was pointless...



please, when ever have "leaked" pictures of a game every looked as good as the actual gameplay?

Why must you ruin it!?

I don't care, its the fact that it can look like that. And leaked pictures, were never that far off for BF3 I don't think.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Why must you ruin it!?

I don't care, its the fact that it can look like that. And leaked pictures, were never that far off for BF3 I don't think.

I will be first in line to buy BF4 if the game looks that good. It won't though. It will look just like BF3.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I will be first in line to buy BF4 if the game looks that good. It won't though. It will look just like BF3.

Its a next gen launch title, it will look better then BF3. Mark my words.

 

[Mindweaver]

wow, that was pointless...

I was wondering if anyone thought that was as great as I thought it was... Just think we have 6 more days of these crappy videos..

 

[Easy Rhino]

Its a next gen launch title, it will look better then BF3. Mark my words.

huh? you are buying into all of the marketing hype.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Hmm a propeller? Return of sea combat? Nuclear subs perhaps?

 

[Easy Rhino]

Hmm a propeller? Return of sea combat? Nuclear subs perhaps?

yes. the objective of BF4 is to get to the nuke as fast as possible. the problem is to actually make it explode you need to shell out for the "premium" pack

 

[xkche]

Jajajaja, is BF3.5

Buy all the expansion and finally get BF4

 

[Easy Rhino]

Jajajaja, is BF3.5

Buy all the expansion and finally get BF4

jajajajajajaj

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Jesus, and I thought mailman was a troll.....................

 

[1Kurgan1]

Jesus!

Jesus what, a propeller?

Its a next gen launch title, it will look better then BF3. Mark my words.

Captain Obvious? I don't think anyone thought BF4 was going to look worse than BF3.