My first gaming build

[BarbaricSoul]

760 is near identical in performance at $250 ($60 cheaper),

The $250 GTX 760 is not an OC model. Without OC'ing, the stock non-GHZ model 7970 gets more FPS than the non OC'ed GTX 760. And if we are going to bring OCíng into the mix, lets see a GTX 760 match this-

 

[RCoon]

The $250 GTX 760 is not an OC model. Without OC'ing, the stock non-GHZ model 7970 gets more FPS than the non OC'ed GTX 760. And if we are going to bring OCíng into the mix, lets see a GTX 760 match this-

http://img.techpowerup.org/130701/this.jpg

I just read up on TPU reference model reviews, and the 760 is on te 7970's heels all the way. I did specifically say THE 7970 OVERCLOCKS BETTER IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, if you would kindly read up.

obviously the 7970 could then overclock and in turn get better framerates. In terms of stock performance, 7970 is better.

 

[Saltystew]

really ? hmm sounding better every minute well then i guess im back to my original question i cant for the life of me figure out how many watts i need to run this so whats a good psu

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1000.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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[RCoon]

really ? hmm sounding better every minute well then i guess im back to my original question i cant for the life of me figure out how many watts i need to run this so whats a good psu

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1c7En/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1000.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-01 07:27 EDT-0400)

550w Bronze as a minimum. A lot of OC'ers go for 650w for single CPU and single GPU systems, 850w for dual GPU etc.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I did specifically say THE 7970 OVERCLOCKS BETTER IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, if you would kindly read up.

never said you didn't say that. I just wanted to show the OP exactly what kind of OCíng potential the 7970 has. I have one of the original reference HD7970 that run stock at 925/1375, but is capable of running 1150/1400. That is a 250 MHz OC on stock voltage. Most 7970 cards are capable of that OC.

 

[RCoon]

That is a 250 MHz OC on stock voltage. Most 7970 cards are capable of that OC.

And much more. (with voltage)

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I think the OP stated he wont be overclocking, so I am not sure he would even know how to oc the gpu either, just saying.

 

[Saltystew]

i dont know how to overclock but my impression was that it damages the hardware a lot and Mr. BarbaricSoul said they last for years on an overclock so maybe ill just learn, whats the internet for if we cant learn stuff we love.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I think the OP stated he wont be overclocking, so I am not sure he would even know how to oc the gpu either, just saying.

Yeah, they did say that. But do you honestly think they will feel the same after having the computer for 6 months to a year? Most of us here know exactly how easy it is to OC the video card, the OP will figure that out.

 

[RCoon]

Yeah, they did say that. But do you honestly think they will feel the same after having the computer for 6 months to a year? Most of us here know exactly how easy it is to OC the video card, the OP will figure that out.

Exactly, its as easy as moving 2 sliders in MSI Afterburner.

Mr BarbaricSoul, Sir

 

[Saltystew]

so a bronze 600w would do fine i doubt ill ever do an sli or xfire with this build if ever

 

[RCoon]

so a bronze 600w would do fine i doubt ill ever do an sli or xfire with this build if ever

Yeah, what brand? Brands are important. Some are avoidable.

 

[Saltystew]

no idea but id like it to be reliable (who wouldnt lol) and modular only ones seems that people buy are corsair cooler master antec and rosewill

 

[BarbaricSoul]

i dont know how to overclock but my impression was that it damages the hardware a lot and Mr. BarbaricSoul said they last for years on an overclock so maybe ill just learn, whats the internet for if we cant learn stuff we love.

OC's that stay within the temperature and power limits of the hardware do not cause damage to the hardware. It's only extreme OC's that hurt hardware. I had a 3 GHZ Q9650 before my 2600k that I ran at 4.25ghz 24/7. That CPU is still in use today by another member of TPU. Personally, I've been OC my hardware ever since I bought my E8400 Core2Duo/9800GX2 system back in 2009, and have only killed one piece of hardware. That was a $100 Z68 Gigabyte motherboard that only had a 4-phase power system. Seems a 4.5ghz OC on my 2600k was too much for the 4-phase power system of that board(I exceeded the boards power limits).

 

[RCoon]

no idea but id like it to be reliable (who wouldnt lol) and modular only ones seems that people buy are corsair cooler master antec and rosewill

Corsair make great PSU's, I havent had experience with Rosewill's.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Corsair make great PSU's, I havent had experience with Rosewill's.

for Rosewill, the capstone and hive series of PSUs are just as good as Corsair PSUs

 

[Saltystew]

Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°...

looks good to me

 

[RCoon]

Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°...

looks good to me

They also make my favourite Case, the Thor V2

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°...

looks good to me

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[Saltystew]

I was looking at the exact same PSU. Use this promo code to get another $20 off it's price.

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aww lol i dont have enough money to buy it all today any ways im hoping the day i do like every part has some discount lol thanks anyway and thanks for all the suggestions

with a 7970 how do you think ill do on watchdogs lol?

 

[RCoon]

aww lol i dont have enough money to buy it all today any ways im hoping the day i do like every part has some discount lol thanks anyway and thanks for all the suggestions

with a 7970 how do you think ill do on watchdogs lol?

Depends how badly its ported from consoles

 

[Saltystew]

thats true >.> stupid consoles it was made on pc first it should always be ported best for a pc

 

[BarbaricSoul]

aww lol i dont have enough money to buy it all today any ways im hoping the day i do like every part has some discount lol thanks anyway and thanks for all the suggestions

with a 7970 how do you think ill do on watchdogs lol?

might be worth buying the PSU by it's self today if you can afford it.

no experience with Watchdogs, but I get around 45fps with all setting at high running a resolution of 2560*1600 playing Crysis3 if that tells you anything about what a single non-GHZ non-OC'ed 7970 can do

 

[Saltystew]

whats your cpu

 

[BarbaricSoul]

2600k. Check my system specs for the Bard's Domain computer for it's full specs. The 7970 is not OC'ed right now and the 2600k is running at only 3.8ghz.


Good luck with your build. I have to leave for work now. I'll check back on this thread when I get home.