AMD Opens New Global Design Centre in Hyderabad

[suraswami]

India has youngsters with money and they don't care about spending!

As long as cell phone, new gadget and car craze is in India every company will make use of this boom.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Virtually all processor advancements in the last four decades happened in USA (IBM, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, Apple, Fairchild, NVIDIA, etc.), Canada (ATI), UK (ARM Holdings), and Israel (Pentium M and Core).

AMD is giving India an opportunity; the burden is on Indians to deliver.

@TheGuruStud: A lot of the greatest advancements humanity has made were born from drop-outs. Education has a tendency to suppress creativity and creative solutions are the ones that change history. Education is great for societies that like to repeat history, not advance it. USA has a long history of drawing in people that are advancing science and capitalizing on it. It takes resources to research and USA has millions of investors.

No you're all wrong the uk started it all and is still the best at it all ie engineering, creativity research or queing we rock simples and be happy we brought you edumication

 

[Nabarun]

Virtually all processor advancements in the last four decades happened in USA (IBM, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, Apple, Fairchild, NVIDIA, etc.), Canada (ATI), UK (ARM Holdings), and Israel (Pentium M and Core).

AMD is giving India an opportunity; the burden is on Indians to deliver.

@TheGuruStud: A lot of the greatest advancements humanity has made were born from drop-outs. Education has a tendency to suppress creativity and creative solutions are the ones that change history. Education is great for societies that like to repeat history, not advance it. USA has a long history of drawing in people that are advancing science and capitalizing on it. It takes resources to research and USA has millions of investors.

You are just talking rubbish. It doesn't matter where the processor manufacturing happened - the question is whether Indian engineers have "LOW caliber". India's economy and native manufacturing industry and everything else is in such a poor state because of sociopolitical reasons - not because our engineers can't do it. There have been some outstanding scientists from India without whose contribution science would not be anywhere near it's modern state. What USA has is a big wallet and obviously better infrastructure for companies to feel attracted. This doesn't mean Americans have better brains. The world does not think so anyway.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Note what country is missing...

World Patent Report: A Statistical Review - 2008 edition

The good news is AMD might change that.

 

[Frick]

No you're all wrong the uk started it all and is still the best at it all ie engineering, creativity research or queing we rock simples and be happy we brought you edumication

Britain is a developing country in disguise. Seriously.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Britain is a developing country in disguise. Seriously.

Seriously some of you overate your country and wtf has your opinion of the uk got to do with op , mine was a joke yoyrs a bait and the uk passed the us more bs patents then soft nick jet engines computers.

I am an engineer and I can tell you this. We developed waaaay before yall and my company makes the best mass specs in the home of industry , computing, mass spectrometry and thats MANCHESTER mofoin uk suck it.

 

[Frick]

Seriously some of you overate your country and wtf has your opinion of the uk got to do with op , mine was a joke yoyrs a bait and the uk passed the us more bs patents then soft nick jet engines computers.

I am an engineer and I can tell you this. We developed waaaay before yall and my company makes the best mass specs in the home of industry , computing, mass spectrometry and thats MANCHESTER mofoin uk suck it.

Which is why you can't build houses, do electrical work, plumbing or heating? Not to mention thrash collection. I've been in the UK quite a bit and while you've done great things (and do some great things still), it feels low grade.

The US is the same really.

And yes we are off topic, but your joke wasn't on topic either. And people are discussing fighters and shit anyway. Go for broke.

EDIT: Fair's fair: You do produce some top notch actors.

 

[de.das.dude]

since when did china do anything original? they only know how to replicate things cheaply with cheap components.

the only reason they are a super power is because the people there have no power and work like slaves.

 

[Dent1]

Virtually all processor advancements in the last four decades happened in USA (IBM, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, Apple, Fairchild, NVIDIA, etc.), Canada (ATI), UK (ARM Holdings), and Israel (Pentium M and Core).

But they scout talent from around the world. A company can hire or outsource or offshore the most educated talent from around the globe and file it's taxes in USA or it's host country.


The funny thing about your statement is IBM and Apple currently have research and manufacturing in India (and China). And ARM is setting up shop in India too. So all this high horse stuff about America has to stop!

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/03/26/ibm.outsourcing/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/13/apple_infosys_winpro/
http://articles.economictimes.india...1_design-centre-design-engineers-british-firm

Note what country is missing...
http://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/ipstats/images/wipo_pub_931/a_4_1.gif
World Patent Report: A Statistical Review - 2008 edition

The good news is AMD might change that.

The patent is intellectual property, you can file it in any country, that isn't a reflection of the ethnicity of the workforce. For example IBM can employ a 99% Indian labour force then patent the work in USA. Who gets credit? USA of course.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Some of the guys in here are like an unlimited jokes supply for Russell Peters.

 

[Nabarun]

since when did china do anything original? they only know how to replicate things cheaply with cheap components.

They did invent gun powder.

 

[Nabarun]

But they scout talent from around the world. A company can hire or outsource or offshore the most educated talent from around the globe and file it's taxes in USA or it's host country.


The funny thing about your statement is IBM and Apple currently have research and manufacturing in India (and China). And ARM is setting up shop in India too. So all this high horse stuff about America has to stop!

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/03/26/ibm.outsourcing/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/13/apple_infosys_winpro/
http://articles.economictimes.india...1_design-centre-design-engineers-british-firm






The patent is itellection property, you can file it in any country, that isn't a reflection of the ethnicity of the workforce. For example IBM can employ a 99% Indian labour force then patent the work in USA. Who gets credit? USA of course.

That's what I've been trying to make him understand from the start. Apparently he is determined not to...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Which is why you can't build houses, do electrical work, plumbing or heating? Not to mention thrash collection. I've been in the UK quite a bit and while you've done great things (and do some great things still), it feels low grade.

The US is the same really.

And yes we are off topic, but your joke wasn't on topic either. And people are discussing fighters and shit anyway. Go for broke.

EDIT: Fair's fair: You do produce some top notch actors.

And the best cars

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The funny thing about your statement is IBM and Apple currently have research and manufacturing in India (and China). And ARM is setting up shop in India too. So all this high horse stuff about America has to stop!

They do that so there is less downtime in researching. They do 8-10 hour shifts in the USA/Canada then source another 8-10 hour shift on the other side of the planet. It increases research pace by 50-80% which means keeping up/getting ahead of the competition.

It's really no different from using call centers in India to handle the night-load when no one in USA/Canada wants to work. It's smart business practice, even if it isn't the most optimal.

Case in point: the high skill in engineering comes from the people in the design department. They stamp out the framework for how it is going to work and likely have to work on many components of that but, for every complicated task only a handful of people can do, there's a dozen other tasks almost anyone with a basic understanding of the subject can do. The people in the "West" do the former and while they're away from work, the people in "East" do the latter. The people in the "East" are doing tasks that are too expensive in the "West." The relationship is mutually beneficial but the majority of the high skill laborers are still in the "West."

The patent is intellectual property, you can file it in any country, that isn't a reflection of the ethnicity of the workforce. For example IBM can employ a 99% Indian labour force then patent the work in USA. Who gets credit? USA of course.

IBM gets credit because it owns the IP. IBM is a US corporation.

 

[Frick]

IBM gets credit because it owns the IP. IBM is a US corporation.

Meh, where such giants are incorporated matter little these days. It's down to taxes and patent laws, generally.

 

[Nabarun]

They do that so there is less downtime in researching. They do 8-10 hour shifts in the USA/Canada then source another 8-10 hour shift on the other side of the planet. It increases research pace by 50-80% which means keeping up/getting ahead of the competition.

It's really no different from using call centers in India to handle the night-load when no one in USA/Canada wants to work. It's smart business practice, even if it isn't the most optimal.

Case in point: the high skill in engineering comes from the people in the design department. They stamp out the framework for how it is going to work and likely have to work on many components of that but, for every complicated task only a handful of people can do, there's a dozen other tasks almost anyone with a basic understanding of the subject can do. The people in the "West" do the former and while they're away from work, the people in "East" do the latter. The people in the "East" are doing tasks that are too expensive in the "West." The relationship is mutually beneficial but the majority of the high skill laborers are still in the "West."



IBM gets credit because it owns the IP. IBM is a US corporation.

You are undoubtedly related to Hitler in some way... or the KKK may be. All you need is some quality time in Guantanamo. That will hopefully change some of your perspective about "White Supremacy". Seriously, you need a VERY low level format. I mean the demagnetization type. Or a HDD replacement... and the CPU too Of course you may have to get new motherboard and RAM too. I am sure your PSU is more than adequate...

 

[de.das.dude]

wow ford, didnt know you were this arrogant :/
maybe its the pain + meds?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

How does stating the facts make me arrogant? Do some research on corporate trends.

 

[Nabarun]

Your corporate research led you to conclude that Indians (and everybody else who's not from the "West") are just cheap laborers who are only capable of doing the "easy" stuff? That's your "fact"? You definitely are Adolf incarnate, dude!

 

[de.das.dude]

your facts may be innocent but the arguments for which you are using them isnt


plus i though no one loved AMD, and yet people are fighting over a silly design lab over its location.

property costs in india is cheaper. and im sure most people have notice the increasing number of indians at amd, plus a lot of engineers come from india, so it makes sense to open up a design lab here, as then the employees can be kept near home and be happy. Plus social acceptance and adaptation can be hard.

so you add all these up, it makes a lot of sense to do what they did.


and wrt to that patents thing.
the scientific sector in india suffers tremendously because of socio-political reasons as already stated. plus the economic condition isnt great either. add to that the good sum of money foreign countries are willing to pay for the same research, its a no brainer most scientists and researchers leave. and when they are successful, they add to the patents in the country funding them.


recently there was a bengali kid from here who went to germany and developed something related to the equation of trajectory of missiles.


and then the govt workers here are shit. they are too lazy. so i doubt they even work properly at the patent offices. what more its easy to bribe people in india. bribing is the only way to get the govt workers to work. so its easy to take someone else's patent pending idea and buy it too. i doubt that would be impossible.

sparta would be better to live in than india

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Your corporate research led you to conclude that Indians (and everybody else who's not from the "West") are just cheap laborers who are only capable of doing the "easy" stuff? That's your "fact"? You definitely are Adolf incarnate, dude!

I didn't say that.

 

[Nabarun]

You didn't exactly say those words in that particular way, but that's exactly what you said in a very elaborate speech.

 

[Nabarun]

Hmm. I think this flame war is not going anywhere good. This thread should now be locked imho

 

[Frick]

I didn't say that.

You didn't exactly say those words in that particular way, but that's exactly what you said in a very elaborate speech.

I did read that particular post carefully, and that was sort of what you said. The westerners do the complex tasks, the indians (or whatever they might be) do the easy stuff. You didn't say they were less capable though.

You, Nabarun, are taking the price for stupidity though. Calling people Hitler is not productive in any way.

In short I have no idea why you are arguing. They are opening a design centre in Hyderabad. That is good. End?

 

[Nabarun]

I did read that particular post carefully, and that was sort of what you said. The westerners do the complex tasks, the indians (or whatever they might be) do the easy stuff. You didn't say they were less capable though.

You, Nabarun, are taking the price for stupidity though. Calling people Hitler is not productive in any way.

In short I have no idea why you are arguing. They are opening a design centre in Hyderabad. That is good. End?

Right. Didn't know about that "law" though No more of this from me.