MSI R9 280X GAMING 3 GB

Initialised · Oct 8, 2013

So can the 280 3GB CFX with a 7970 since it's basically a rebadge?

Or should I just get another 7970 instead and skip the Rx 200 series once the price drops on the 'old tech'?

SIGSEGV · Oct 8, 2013

arnoo1 said:
wow amd claiming it's so much faster ridicules more points in firestrike, and again it sucks again also with cpu's , wow amd step up your gaming if you want to keep up with the big boys

have you ever read the title of this review ? i guess not..
brilliant..

Protagonist said:
This should explain some more
http://www.techspot.com/news/54250-...ue-to-overheating-other-technical-issues.html

OOT :
i wonder how much nvidia pays them off to dump amd's gpu :wtf:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052...ion-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html

AsRock · Oct 8, 2013

Once again nice review, although pricing on the 7970 can be a lot cheaper than $375 ($310) which has got to mess up price\performance numbers.

HR_The_Butcher · Oct 8, 2013

So, CF supported between 7970 and 280X?

Assimilator · Oct 8, 2013

Initialised said:
So can the 280 3GB CFX with a 7970 since it's basically a rebadge?

HR_The_Butcher said:
So, CF supported between 7970 and 280X?

Yes: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1784907

buggalugs · Oct 8, 2013

Protagonist said:
This should explain some more
http://www.techspot.com/news/54250-...ue-to-overheating-other-technical-issues.html

And how comes the GPU-Z screen shot here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/29.html shows release date as being December 22, 2011??? they forgot to change that even though we all know its based on the 7970GHz

That's bullcrap....I don't buy it. "overheating GPUs"?? How come none of my AMD GPUs overheat? I've never had any real driver issues either.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

Nvidia has done this crap before, they are obviously panicking over R9, they got nothing until next year.

chinmi · Oct 8, 2013

buggalugs said:
That's bullcrap....I don't buy it. "overheating GPUs"?? How come none of my AMD GPUs overheat? I've never had any real driver issues either.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

Nvidia has done this crap before, they are obviously panicking over R9, they got nothing until next year.

same here... my couple of years old 6990 never overheat too... why is "HEAT" and "power consumption" is so much of a concern in the states ?

I mean an extra 100w - 200w total system usage won't bring lots of difference in electrical bill per year... if you can spent $1000,- ++ or maybe more on a pc, why does paying a couple of dollars more electrical bill is much of a concern ??

buggalugs · Oct 8, 2013

Dj-ElectriC said:
I think it is more about the circuitry. I own a GTX 780 with this cooler and everything runs flawlessly and cool under any load.

I don't think so and this review from anandtech kind of proves the point I made earlier. Unless MSI has done something dodgy with the VRM but there is no way they would release an "twinfrosr" brand with those kind of numbers.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/the-radeon-r9-280x-review-feat-asus-xfx/20

They have a few different versions of the 280X and they are all much much cooler. Even cooler than Nvidia 770 and 760.

Something is not right. Gawd I don't know who to trust these days.....theres gotta be something wrong with Wizzards sample.

On the Origin thing, I find it highly suspicious that they would drop AMD GPUS just before the release of the 290X. A card that will cream anything Nvidia has....and Nvidia has no answer for until next year. What a time to drop it? Surely with the performance of the 290X there would be plenty of rich guys wanting systems with the fastest card in the world.?? Of all the times to drop AMD they drop them on the release of a monster card, with new technology, DX11.2, trueaudio, mantle, new drivers etc?? lol Its no accident this is happening now with reviews of AMD cards hitting the internet.

LOL NVidia is up to their old games.

And its no accident

1d10t · Oct 8, 2013

SIGSEGV said:
well, wait for R9-290X then.. (cfx + full waterblock = win )

Yup...and i will be starve and homeless for the next 6 months :laugh:

Xzibit said:
If I remember right there was an early leaked Fan Noise test done on a few R9 280Xs. This MSI model had an annoying hum to it (coil whine). The Asus was quiet.
One thing I noticed is MSI seams to be the only one so far to not adapt the reference R9 280x display output layout.

this also explain why people complaining about whining coil,they blamed chip maker not a board maker :shadedshu

rawad said:
the card is good , its just the MSI's version that is really bad .
i saw the review of the ASUS 280x and its a very good card with low temps and low noise .
+ its about 80-100 cheapers then a GTX 770 and equal in performance , i think thats a WIN!

+1 to this,XFX and Asus makes better R9 280X :toast:

arnoo1 said:
wow amd claiming it's so much faster ridicules more points in firestrike, and again it sucks again also with cpu's , wow amd step up your gaming if you want to keep up with the big boys

exactly!this card is nothing compare to your mighty card :laugh:

Protagonist said:
This should explain some more
http://www.techspot.com/news/54250-...ue-to-overheating-other-technical-issues.html

dude...never trust a marketer to explain technical description

Initialised · Oct 8, 2013

Assimilator said:
Yes: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1784907

Sweet, thank you AMD.

I wonder why NV don't let you run a 770 with a 680?

mikeq6648 · Oct 8, 2013

renamed and refreshed Bios old card?

few months ago, i've planned to replace my MSI HD5850 OC. one of my choice is the HD7970 Ghz, then i shifted to MSI TF GTX770 4GB. This 770 runs quiet nice with low noise and low temperature. But when i read the reviews of R9 280X. I was diappointed that the performance is just so close to GTX 770. and those Mantle, True Audio is not mentioned in the R9 280X! where are they? just launched in R9 290X?

adulaamin · Oct 8, 2013

Initialised said:
Sweet, thank you AMD.

I wonder why NV don't let you run a 770 with a 680?

So you'll be forced to buy another 770 if you want to SLI... :toast:

mikeq6648 · Oct 8, 2013

adulaamin said:
So you'll be forced to buy another 770 if you want to SLI...

haha, GTX 770 is also a renamed GTX 680 !

Zubasa · Oct 8, 2013

Protagonist said:
This should explain some more
http://www.techspot.com/news/54250-...ue-to-overheating-other-technical-issues.html

And how comes the GPU-Z screen shot here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/29.html shows release date as being December 22, 2011??? they forgot to change that even though we all know its based on the 7970GHz

You know that the release date is not read from the GPU itself but just coded into GPU-Z right?

Yellow&Nerdy? · Oct 8, 2013

Well, it's pretty much exactly what Nvidia did with the GTX 770: take the previous gen flag-ship, and overclock it. Considering that it costs the same as the "non GHz" version of the 7970, but performs the same as the GHz edition, it's not a bad card. At least it can be considered a "upgrade" compared to the last gen card at the same price point, unlike the R9 270X.

BiggieShady · Oct 8, 2013

mikeq6648 said:
haha, GTX 770 is also a renamed GTX 680 !

I could only wish R9 280X is to 7970 what GTX 770 is to GTX 680 ... price wise and performance wise

Prima.Vera · Oct 8, 2013

Common guys, the price is great. 1 Year ago, the same performance cost double.
Cheers!

Yeoman · Oct 8, 2013

I don't get the overheating...I'm kinda shocked. Looking at reviews of all 7970's (particularly the ghz ed/beatly clocked ones), they run in the 70-75 Celsius range usually. That and the fact that coolers like MSI's twin frozr IV seem better than those 1/2 yr old designs...I'm kinda shocked and confused. :/

The way MSI's cooler handles the 770/780 for example, its so quiet and usually temps are really low. Just seems odd.

EarthDog · Oct 8, 2013

I didnt read the article or thread outside of what is above me, so my apologies if this was mentioned, but MSI just sent reviewers a new bios that mucks with the fan control early yesterday... so perhaps that is the problem that W1z did not get a chance to flash to it (or mention it I guess)? Mine just arrived yesterday so I haven't had a chance to see what is up.

NeoXF · Oct 8, 2013

One question tho... what's with those horrible Review Scores? Are you kidding me? nVidia's cards literally only once in 20 reviews get scores lower than 90/100, but now, NOT ONE of these AMD (almost) game-changing cards get even a 9?. I don't want to go into details, the review itself seems pretty good (like most TPU reviews), but the rating at the end... really? :confused:

This series of video cards do what is best above everything... start a chain reaction of price drops. And for that alone, I'd rate them straight up 10s.

EarthDog · Oct 8, 2013

That is the problem with a number rating system...especially like this. It is just waaaay too granular using tenths of points. Granular would be fine, but there is nothing posted I know of to clearly distinguish between points. What is the difference between an 8.1 and 8.2 GPU? Personally, I ignore all numbers like this on any site unless it is clearly defined (read: Oklahoma Wolf's reviews where he mentions what he takes off points for which is the same for each review) and just look at the details.

That said, I have no idea what is '(almost) game changing' about the 7970... oops, R9 280X. It is a rebrand for pete's sake. It is the same as a 7970.

a_ump · Oct 8, 2013

this is a bummer. sort of. i'm assuming R 290/290x will be the "8950/8970" of this gen so one new chip and all rebrands drop the price on what used to be the top 4 cards from AMD. Not terrible i just miss the time when a whole new line-up was made from bottom to top. Granted i know from "bottom" is kind of pointless because of APU's and intel's HD graphics getting much better, but at least from $100 cards up i'd love to see a new line of cards.

I mean this is still good, just not as good and a bit of a let down to what i was hoping. New naming scheme i'd at least figure new chips, oh wells

suraswami · Oct 8, 2013

Lionheart said:
http://img.techpowerup.org/131008/y-u-no3.jpg

Because I am Red and I am AMD! :laugh:

Hilux SSRG · Oct 8, 2013

NeoXF said:
One question tho... what's with those horrible Review Scores? Are you kidding me? nVidia's cards literally only once in 20 reviews get scores lower than 90/100, but now, NOT ONE of these AMD (almost) game-changing cards get even a 9?. I don't want to go into details, the review itself seems pretty good (like most TPU reviews), but the rating at the end... really?

The score I think is based on the review of the MSI r9 280X Gaming 3GB board and not the stock AMD R9 280X. W1zzard correct me if I'm wrong. Lower score is due to higher noise levels and poor vrm cooling.

Recus · Oct 8, 2013

SIGSEGV said:
have you ever read the title of this review ? i guess not..
brilliant..

OOT :
i wonder how much nvidia pays them off to dump amd's gpu

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052...ion-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html

buggalugs said:
That's bullcrap....I don't buy it. "overheating GPUs"?? How come none of my AMD GPUs overheat? I've never had any real driver issues either.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/07/nvidias-program-get-oems-like-origin-pc-dump-amd-called-tier-0/

Nvidia has done this crap before, they are obviously panicking over R9, they got nothing until next year.

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