Microsoft Windows 8.1 Is Now Available

GSG-9 · Oct 19, 2013

Ravenas said:
A company that has barely any market share in mobile space convinces one of the world's largest air line companies to purchase 11,000 Surface tablets equipped with Windows 8 (an OS that you say isn't business friendly)... And you call that climbing a hill? What a smug comment.

No, it is simply not business, or corporate, Windows 8 is great for interacting with people. For use in advertising and marketing. But the devices that grab customer attention and that executives cary to schedule their meetings are not the back bone of any industries. There is infrastructure that must be maintained. And those functions/tasks simply won't and CAN'T move as fast, mission critical tasks are not redesigned just because they can be. They are redesigned when they must be.

P.S. You don't get to change the scope of the conversation by saying 'barely any market share in mobile' the conversation is not about mobile.

xvi said:
I think the main problem is that the GUI is changing with no option to switch back. We didn't have a problem transitioning from DOS because, even to this day, we still have a DOS-like command prompt.

Well, Dos had a GUI that was ditched after 3.1. People were okey with that.

remixedcat said:
I've allready seen businesses utilize metro UI...

Holiday Inn express uses them in large touch screens at the check-in area as info kiosks for visitors. I actually used one to look up malls so I can get shoes before I went to Vegas so I can have something more comfy for walking around the MGM Grand. (easier then whipping out my phone at the time).

I've also seen restaurants use a metro app for orders as well and it makes the UI easier for the wait staff to use.

Those are all POS (Point of Service, not the other acronym...) uses, interacting with consumers, marketing etc. Change is fast in those areas. Change is not so fast for people maintaining very old architecture and large large databases.

loop · Oct 19, 2013

Basically, it's difficult to understand why some people behave like they re CEO of microsoft or software sellers, and have the stand to tease others who may not like new software from microsoft, really then i cant have any other opinion except how wonderful the new windows are?
Ok i m not newbie i set up computers from 1995 with custom cooling solutions (watercooling. phase change etc) because my favorite hobby is oc'ing. i ve paid lots of money to this market just fr hobby and my opinion is windows 8 and 8.1 is a shit software designed for tablets and phones, i' m using them only for being up to date but (thanks to iobit trick) with proper start button, not with metro shit, its idiotic unuseful and I DONT WANNA use this (metro) because its only a marketing SHIT
p.s. English is not my speaking language, so my apologize for some mistakes

Ahhzz · Oct 19, 2013

GSG-9 said:
.... Change is not so fast for people maintaining very old architecture and large large databases.

This.

How does "Metro" improve my clients' access to their RDP connections to a server running custom software? How does it improve my accountant clients' ability to run Peachtree, Quickbooks, Excel, Email? Database management? Improve support for legacy printers?

Exactly. Not moving any more of our clients that way as long as we can. Win 7 for us, thanks.

Frick · Oct 19, 2013

loop said:
Basically, it's difficult to understand why some people behave like they re CEO of microsoft or software sellers, and have the stand to tease others who may not like new software from microsoft, really then i cant have any other opinion except how wonderful the new windows are?
Ok i m not newbie i set up computers from 1995 with custom cooling solutions (watercooling. phase change etc) because my favorite hobby is oc'ing. i ve paid lots of money to this market just fr hobby and my opinion is windows 8 and 8.1 is a shit software designed for tablets and phones, i' m using them only for being up to date but (thanks to iobit trick) with proper start button, not with metro shit, its idiotic unuseful and I DONT WANNA use this (metro) because its only a marketing SHIT
p.s. English is not my speaking language, so my apologize for some mistakes

The problem with everything, as I see it, isn't that the opinions differ, it's that one group see the other group as morons, and everyone has so strong feelings about it. This goes for you too it seems ("metro shit", "marketing shit", "shit software" etc etc). The other problem is that MS is dedicated to it (I don't have a problem with that, but people get so angry about it, it's a very diversifieng topic) Windows Everywhere, and it'll be Metroish.

qubit · Oct 19, 2013

Frick said:
The problem with everything, as I see it, isn't that the opinions differ, it's that one group see the other group as morons, and everyone has so strong feelings about it. This goes for you too it seems ("metro shit", "marketing shit", "shit software" etc etc). The other problem is that MS is dedicated to it (I don't have a problem with that, but people get so angry about it, it's a very diversifieng topic) Windows Everywhere, and it'll be Metroish.

So true, your whole post, but especially the highlighted bit. I guess it's the core of being opinionated and can apply to any controversial subject.

Talking generally, not just Windows 8, I think what really fuels it, is that each side thinks they're "obviously :rolleyes:

" right, whether that's true or not. For the side that's actually right though, they're justified in responding like that. But which side is it...? Or sometimes neither is right, or it's a grey area and they've both got a point to a degree...

kenkickr · Oct 19, 2013

brandonwh64 said:
Ok I got the second FTP up and going! I used Quick N Easy FTp server lite and it has a max connections of 50 set.

ftp://205.144.212.5:22/

User: tpuuser
Pass: tpu

Thank you very much for doing this.

The only issue I've had so far is after the 8.1 update the system was confused which monitor was which. Driver reinstall fixed that. So far about the only thing I've noticed is the so called start button and the less space on my ssd.

AsRock · Oct 19, 2013

Easy Rhino said:
but i thought microsoft made super dependable products that could never be replaced

That's why i would never try MS OS Upgrade. Sure they got better but you should understand there is a chance you might have to change your plans for the day.

TheMailMan78 · Oct 19, 2013

kenkickr said:
Thank you very much for doing this.

The only issue I've had so far is after the 8.1 update the system was confused which monitor was which. Driver reinstall fixed that. So far about the only thing I've noticed is the so called start button and the less space on my ssd.

Run the disk cleaner and remove the older installation. You'll gain back all your space and then some.

Deleted member 24505 · Oct 19, 2013

I installed mine over the top of win 7 with a full install disc from windows, worked flawlessly. Also my install is using only 31gb with some progs installed.

hellrazor · Oct 19, 2013

Windows 8.1 seems to be blasting MBRs (standard MS procedure nowadays, I don't know why anyone wouldn't expect it), so make sure you know how to fix things when you can't boot into Linux or BSD or plan9 or whatever you've got running.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Oct 20, 2013

hellrazor said:
Windows 8.1 seems to be blasting MBRs (standard MS procedure nowadays, I don't know why anyone wouldn't expect it), so make sure you know how to fix things when you can't boot into Linux or BSD or plan9 or whatever you've got running.

It's also made by asshats skygo won't work until next month now due to my new pc (not just 8.1 upgraded) and avast got removed during 8.1 update unknown to me so its developed an infection ,,,asss's tomorrow for this shit.

eidairaman1 · Oct 20, 2013

Does this support start 8 or other taskbar/start menu integrations?

manofthem · Oct 20, 2013

eidairaman1 said:
Does this support start 8 or other taskbar/start menu integrations?

Check it out

erocker said:
Does Start8 work with 8.1?

brandonwh64 said:
Just installed the 8.1 upgrade and it saved all my apps and my start8 still works like a charm.

dcf-joe · Oct 20, 2013

Just got the free upgrade to Win 8.1 Pro x64.

Since I had a license for StartIsBack for regular Windows 8, I just had to download the new version designed for Win 8.1, and my license worked, so all is well.

ste2425 · Oct 20, 2013

Why is it called Metro? Just makes me think of the trains. Everybody knows, in a zombie apocalypse puplic transport it where it starts.

StartIsBack, turn of all the metro stuff sliding and poping up at me left right and center, default all my programes to 'traditonal' programmes, now im happy. Under the irritating GUI i think theres some nice improvements. Win8 handled fitting a new MOBO without unsitalling or reinstalling drivers manualy brilliantly, out of all the OS's ive used theyve all fallen over or taken a grave performance hit from doing that. Plus i do like the faster booting times.

hellrazor · Oct 20, 2013

Windows RT 8.1 (the one for ARM devices) got pulled due to curb-stomping certain boot data in the throat.

Deadlyraver · Oct 20, 2013

Had an installation problem where the hard drive activity stops for two hours....

What to do?

AphexDreamer · Oct 20, 2013

Deadlyraver said:
Had an installation problem where the hard drive activity stops for two hours....

What to do?

Is your hard drive dying by chance?

X800 · Oct 20, 2013

Hey when you all did get the uppdate to windows shop did you get allso a new key ?
Win 8 pro dont work on 8.1 or do miss something here.

Mathragh · Oct 20, 2013

X800 said:
Hey when you all did get the uppdate to windows shop did you get allso a new key ?
Win 8 pro dont work on 8.1 or do miss something here.

The same key should work. It does for me atleast.

X800 · Oct 20, 2013

My key dont work. Whell i contacted microsoft support so lets see what happens .I bought mine when they had the campain on win 8 .

Raovac · Oct 21, 2013

Stupid Microsoft account crap making my computer feel like a fricken Xbox.
Reset.........
Back to 8.0.

remixedcat · Oct 21, 2013

You have the option of creating a local account, of course.

Raovac · Oct 21, 2013

Local meaning the good old user name?
If so, that is what I have, my name, then a password.
Then it asks me for a Microsoft account and password.
No way I'm signing into windows with any kind of email account.

Deleted member 24505 · Oct 21, 2013

Raovac said:
Local meaning the good old user name?
If so, that is what I have, my name, then a password.
Then it asks me for a Microsoft account and password.
No way I'm signing into windows with any kind of email account.

I just made a new one(email) just for win 8.

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