Is this a good gaming pc spec?

[MrSourGit]

in 2 years it can be problematic to get 270x i think

Because its already a 're-branded card' ? Thats almost a scam right ?

 

[ne6togadno]

Ya ,you got it right there , I would like this pc setup to last me 3+ years , I would rather not have to fiddle with it all again after this

I looked up a comparison between the 270x and 770 . 770 seemed so much better , pretty exciting to be honest haha !

So the
cpu - i4670k
GPU- nvidia 770
Mobo - MSI Z87-G43 GAMING Motherboard Intel Socket 1150 SLi/Xfire

Looking good ?


Ill look at casings soon too guys thanks for the hints on them , dam work !!!

ssd for os. 250gb. if it is too expensive 120gb will do it. space for games will be smaller but you will work it out.

EDIT: get 4670 non K and save 20gbp more. overclocking 4670k wont give you any improvement in games.
and dont forget cpu cooler cm 212 evo or phanteks PH-TC14, noctua NH-U14S anything you can afford but dont stay on stock cooler

Because its already a 're-branded card' ? Thats almost a scam right ?

re-branding also included pcb updates and improvements so it is a little bit less then almost. transitions from 7870 to 270x gave also better cooling solutions from aib partners so for 7870/270x rebrand is upgrade as well. i friend got 270x directU 2 for christmas and he is quite happy with it but he is with 1680x1050

 

[brandonwh64]

EDIT: get 4670 non K and save 20gbp more. overclocking 4670k wont give you any improvement in games.
and dont forget cpu cooler cm 212 evo or phanteks PH-TC14, noctua NH-U14S anything you can afford but dont stay on stock cooler

^^ This is bad advice

Yes it is your decision on what CPU you go with but in terms of gaining FPS in games OCing has proven to boost a lower priced CPU into the performance of the higher priced ones. Below is an example. If you do decide to go with a NON K chip then I would revise the motherboard to a lower priced version since z68 or Z77 wouldn't be needed since you are not OCing

Stock

4.5 Ghz OC

 

[MrSourGit]

Thanks , the 4670k is only £14 more than 4670 , so i'll just go with the k version.

All I need to do now is go home and study cases , because from what 1 of you guys mentioned earlier (MATX having only 4 drive slots) I'm pretty sure mine must be MATX and ill need ATX with as many fans as possible and good heatsync

 

[ne6togadno]

^^ This is bad advice

Yes it is your decision on what CPU you go with but in terms of gaining FPS in games OCing has proven to boost a lower priced CPU into the performance of the higher priced ones. Below is an example. If you do decide to go with a NON K chip then I would revise the motherboard to a lower priced version since z68 or Z77 wouldn't be needed since you are not OCing

Stock

4.5 Ghz OC

you cant fit 4670 to z77 or z68 mb.
for your 2600k might big difference between oc and stock. case is not the same with 4670k http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/8.html
turn to end of the review and look at the conclusions for 4670k.
where did you saw i have advised to change mb?

EDIT: get 4670 non K and save 20gbp more. overclocking 4670k wont give you any improvement in games.
and dont forget cpu cooler cm 212 evo or phanteks PH-TC14, noctua NH-U14S anything you can afford but dont stay on stock cooler

 

[brandonwh64]

you cant fit 4670 to z77 or z68 mb.
for your 2600k might big difference between oc and stock. case is not the same with 4670k http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/8.html
turn to end of the review and look at the conclusions for 4670k.
where did you saw i have advised to change mb?

Those are at full FPS, OCing improves (atleast in BF3/4) the minimum FPS you would see while playing. Besides those games that are listed, have you even looked at games such as skyrim like I posted before? There are many more games that use more of the CPU and get good gains from OCing.

On the Motherboard part, I skimmed through the thread and see were the OP had mentioned Z68/Z77 so thats were I was coming from on that. Also You didn't mention changing the motherboard but I DID cause if he is not getting a K chip then there is no use for Z style motherboards when some of the H boards offer the same features but without OCing and they are less in price.

*edit*

Notice the minimum FPS rates with just a OCed 2500K. Also CPU matter more in MP than SP at times so the extra Mhz is a good help.

 

[Slizzo]

you cant fit 4670 to z77 or z68 mb.
for your 2600k might big difference between oc and stock. case is not the same with 4670k http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/8.html
turn to end of the review and look at the conclusions for 4670k.
where did you saw i have advised to change mb?

Battlefield 3 and 4 are also very CPU dependent. You'll get much better performance if you have your processor overclocked vs. at stock.

 

[ne6togadno]

Those are at full FPS, OCing improves (atleast in BF3/4) the minimum FPS you would see while playing.

Battlefield 3 and 4 are also very CPU dependent. You'll get much better performance if you have your processor overclocked vs. at stock.

graphs from link i posted are for average fps not max. did you read reviewer's coment below bf3 graph? do you understand that bith graph and coment say that core count is >> then ghz count for bf3?

Besides those games that are listed, have you even looked at games such as skyrim like I posted before? There are many more games that use more of the CPU and get good gains from OCing.

yes i saw your screens. how many mods you run with your skyrim?
i have played skyrim on p8600&gts9700M@1440x900 at mid settings, atlon 2 245&HD4850@1680x1050 high settings and fx8320&HD7970@1080p ultra setting w/o mods and i havent seen any difference in game performance (haven measured fps and cant say numbers)

On the Motherboard part, I skimmed through the thread and see were the OP had mentioned Z68/Z77 so thats were I was coming from on that. Also You didn't mention changing the motherboard but I DID cause if he is not getting a K chip then there is no use for Z style motherboards when some of the H boards offer the same features but without OCing and they are less in price.

z mb is perfectly fine even with non K cpu beacuse of other features it offer.

*edit*

Notice the minimum FPS rates with just a OCed 2500K. Also CPU matter more in MP than SP at times so the extra Mhz is a good help.

noticed no change in average fps? simple math show that if min fps increase and average is same that means max fps droped. also test claim that it bf4 mp which means that results are not comparable. there is no way in mp to repeat one and the same footage so that you can exclude influence of scene population differences from results.
all your examples are for 2500k which beside i5 has nothing common with 4670k. yes 2500k and 2600k are oc beasts 4670k however doesnt share their potency and this doesnt come only from tpu review. that is why there is no point to pay premium for k when it wont show significant improvment in game when oced.

 

[RCoon]

z mb is perfectly fine even with non K cpu beacuse of other features it offer

This.

Just bougt a 4670 (non K), and I sure as hell don't like cheaping out on motherboards, so it was Z87 for me. I just have an inexplicable lack of trust in B85 and H87.

Also comparing 2500K to a 4670K makes no sense. The sandybridge was a monster overclocker and benefited from overclocks far more than Haswell does. Claiming similarity of overclocking between two entirely different architectures is a bit lacking...

 

[brandonwh64]

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I am not here to argue, I am just pointing out that OCing has its advantages. Getting a more speed for what we have is what we do here on TPU and thats why its an enthusiasts site. I do believe RCOON is right, the sandybridge chips were really good clockers and ran much cooler than the newer gen which is a good and bad thing I guess. I just wanted to point out these and not cause a drama filled thread.

Honestly these days, I prefer to build machines on used parts so my opinion is that if you can get a good cpu/mobo second hand at a good deal then build the piss out of it. If not then put your priorities first when it comes to new full priced components.

 

[RCoon]

I am not here to argue, I am just pointing out that OCing has its advantages. Getting a more speed for what we have is what we do here on TPU and thats why its an enthusiasts site. I do believe RCOON is right, the sandybridge chips were really good clockers and ran much cooler than the newer gen which is a good and bad thing I guess. I just wanted to point out these and not cause a drama filled thread.

Honestly these days, I prefer to build machines on used parts so my opinion is that if you can get a good cpu/mobo second hand at a good deal then build the piss out of it. If not then put your priorities first when it comes to new full priced components.

OP is from the UK no? In the UK you can buy a 2600K for £190, which is about the same price as a 4670K. That'd be my choice if I could be bothered to overclock and feed it giant heatsinks. 4 cores 8 threads and all that jazz.

 

[ne6togadno]

I am not here to argue, I am just pointing out that OCing has its advantages. Getting a more speed for what we have is what we do here on TPU and thats why its an enthusiasts site. I do believe RCOON is right, the sandybridge chips were really good clockers and ran much cooler than the newer gen which is a good and bad thing I guess. I just wanted to point out these and not cause a drama filled thread.

i am not saying ocing is usless. i have done it before and i will do it again as soon as i get time to clear cable mess inside my box. i am just saying that ocing haswell for gaming is pointless no drama here.

 

[RCoon]

i am not saying ocing is usless. i have done it before and i will do it again as soon as i get time to clear cable mess inside my box. i am just saying that ocing haswell for gaming is pointless no drama here.

I think don't think OC'ing with Haswell is entirely pointless, it's just you have to OC the processor by a huge amount to see any real evidential results. Sadly the IHS paste makes large OC's difficult for the more average coolers.

Nothing was quite as exciting as SB

 

[brandonwh64]

And I agree with both of you, This maybe one reason why I have shied away from upgrading yet.

 

[ne6togadno]

I think don't think OC'ing with Haswell is entirely pointless, it's just you have to OC the processor by a huge amount to see any real evidential results. Sadly the IHS paste makes large OC's difficult for the more average coolers.

Nothing was quite as exciting as SB

well in tpu review oc is from 3.4 to 4.2 for 4670k and from 3.4 to 4.7 for 4770k. that doesnt look me like small oc. gain is less then 2 fps for both cpus...
improvements in video encoding archiving etc. are much more sensible and ocing worth if you often has such tasks but for games 2 fps will give you just 1 more victim in your scope.
add to your argument also that op cant say if he has atx or matx case w/o need to count slots at the back and that he want this pc to last him 3+ years and you will get idea how much time he would like to spare in ocing game (not saying this is bad just pointing that his priorities are in other direction).

And I agree with both of you, This maybe one reason why I have shied away from upgrading yet.

you have 2600k&HD7970 he has fx4100&HD6700. you dont need to upgrade he has no other choice