MSI Preps the J1800I Bay Trail-Powered Mini-ITX Motherboard

Cristian_25H · Jan 17, 2014

MSI will soon be rolling out a new mini ITX motherboard, a model called J1800I that makes use of Military Class 4 components for ' record-breaking stability' and comes equipped with a Bay Trail-D processor, more specifically, the 2.4 GHz dual-core Celeron J1800. The chip has a maximum TDP of 10 W so MSI added only an aluminum heatsink for cooling.

The J1800I also features two DDR3-1333 SO-DIMM slots (for up to 8 GB of memory), two SATA 3.0 Gbps ports, one PCIe x1 slot, Gigabit Ethernet, 7.1 channel audio, one USB 3.0 port, and D-Sub, DVI and HDMI output. The board is available for pre-order for 74.15 Euro.

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micropage7 · Jan 17, 2014

looks nice board but why not pciex 16? and so dimm? i prefer standard ram and why they put caps on that :confused:

The Von Matrices · Jan 17, 2014

micropage7 said:
looks nice board but why not pciex 16? and so dimm? i prefer standard ram and why they put caps on that

You need to consider the target market. Bay Trail is Atom, Intel's tablet/netbook processor. The chip only includes 3 PCIe lanes, and no one is going to use external graphics with such a low power processor.

As far as the reason for SO-DIMM, this board is only going to be used in small form factor applications. Regular DIMMs would stick up beyond the CPU heatsink, limiting where you can put the board.

This board would work well in integrated systems (although it doesn't conform to Intel's Thin Mini ITX standard).

Frick · Jan 17, 2014

The Von Matrices said:
As far as the reason for SO-DIMM, this board is only going to be used in small form factor applications. Regular DIMMs would stick up beyond the CPU heatsink, limiting where you can put the board.

I'm not sure if it would.

Anyway, where are my modern nanoITX boards you lazy basterds?

The Von Matrices · Jan 17, 2014

Frick said:
I'm not sure if it would.

You're right; it probably would fit, as long as you used standard DIMMs. Now I'm guessing that this is an issue with memory traces; by using SO-DIMMs in the locations they are, MSI may be able to use a PCB with fewer layers and reduce production costs.

player-x · Jan 17, 2014

The Von Matrices said:
You need to consider the target market. Bay Trail is Atom, Intel's tablet/netbook processor. The chip only includes 3 PCIe lanes, and no one is going to use external graphics with such a low power processor.

They still could at least leave the backside of the slot open, so that you can install a PCIe 4x or higher in it, as Bay Trail is still fast enough to run a home server, and a PCIe 8x card with 8x SAS/SATA, like the IBM ServeRAID M1015, can be had for $150, and would make fore a cheap low end server.

FreedomEclipse · Jan 17, 2014

Too bad its not at least a pci-ex 4x. Would have given more leeway when it comes to looking for raid expansion cards. Would have made a decent mobo to go with that new Silverstone NAS case

player-x · Jan 17, 2014

FreedomEclipse said:
Too bad its not at least a pci-ex 4x. Would have given more leeway when it comes to looking for raid expansion cards.

Like i said you can use a PCIe 4x 8x or even 16x card in a PCIe 1x slot, as even a PCIe 1x v1.0 slot will only be stressed for 40% to supply enough data to saturate the Gbit network port.

I really dont get why they did not use a at the back open connector so you can fit in bigger cards, or use a 4x or 8x slot, even if only 1x is connected.

xorbe · Jan 17, 2014

Celeron J1800 is Silvermont Atom, and that is ... classic Atom or sb/ib/hw derivative? Which one? It's Atom w/ooo, I think.

The Von Matrices · Jan 17, 2014

xorbe said:
Celeron J1800 is Silvermont Atom, and that is ... classic Atom or sb/ib/hw derivative? Which one? It's Atom w/ooo, I think.

It is Silvermont and it is the same core as in the newest Atom processors, but to call it "classic Atom" is a bit disparaging. It's a completely new OoO architecture designed for the low power space, the first new low power architecture from Intel since 2008. This processor is meant to compete with AMD's Kabini.

player-x · Jan 17, 2014

xorbe said:
Celeron J1800 is Silvermont Atom, and that is ... classic Atom or sb/ib/hw derivative? Which one? It's Atom w/ooo, I think.

Is even reading the head of the news article that hard?

MSI Preps the J1800I Bay Trail-Powered Mini-ITX Motherboard

And if you still dont get it, Google it!

xorbe · Jan 17, 2014

I did web search, but I still wasn't quite sure. Sorry for asking to clarify.

Sinzia · Jan 19, 2014

Anyone know of something like this but with dual nics for something like pfsense?

player-x · Jan 19, 2014

Sinzia said:
Anyone know of something like this but with dual nics for something like pfsense?

A USB NIC will work just fine, have one on my server after lighting blew out one of the ports.

Sinzia · Jan 19, 2014

player-x said:
A USB NIC will work just fine, have one on my server after lighting blew out one of the ports.

Not what I was looking for, but thank you anyway.

Frick · Jan 19, 2014

Sinzia said:
Anyone know of something like this but with dual nics for something like pfsense?

There are several ITX motherboards with dual NIC's, a lot of them are LGA1155/56/50, there are some FM2 as well. I'm sure I've seen a board with 4 ports too...

Sinzia · Jan 19, 2014

Frick said:
There are several ITX motherboards with dual NIC's, a lot of them are LGA1155/56/50, there are some FM2 as well. I'm sure I've seen a board with 4 ports too...

There are, I was looking for an update to this board:
Intel D2500CCE Atom D2500 Dual LAN
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007MS9OI2/?tag=tec06d-20

player-x · Jan 19, 2014

Sinzia said:
There are, I was looking for an update to this board:
Intel D2500CCE Atom D2500 Dual LAN

Not cheap, but dose the job, the ASRock C2550D4I will do the job real fine, even got a remote managing network port.

_JP_ · Jan 19, 2014

Sinzia said:
There are, I was looking for an update to this board:
Intel D2500CCE Atom D2500 Dual LAN
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007MS9OI2/?tag=tec06d-20

You have this one, which is a bit cheaper and is more than enough to run pfsense (me thinks). There's also a version with a FDD connector, in case you may need it.

Sinzia · Jan 20, 2014

_JP_ said:
You have this one, which is a bit cheaper and is more than enough to run pfsense (me thinks). There's also a version with a FDD connector, in case you may need it.

Thats perfect! thank you!!

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