AMD FX OC'ers Club

[suraswami]

@suraswami
The board won't downdrop voltage unless you set an offset voltage for the V_Core and leave all the power savings features on just turn off turbo or set it to the same clock as your OC. So since your CPU showed a base VID of 1.325v at 20x then to get 1.42v for the 22x I would just set a +.100v offset in bios. If you're happy with it the way it is that's cool but that's how you use offset so the CPU speed and volts will downclock when idle/surfing etc...

I will try it out later, want to see if I got my current setup stable. I guess baby steps.

 

[Johan45]

That's what the bios is there for swami, to play with. The more you play the more you learn. Just save a good OC profile incase things get all wonky on you. Then all you have to do is load it up and you're off to the races.

 

[suraswami]

ok Black Screen yesterday, the PC is back to all default.

 

[Durvelle27]

Anyone here with a FX-8370

 

[Johan45]

Anyone here with a FX-8370

Not yet but soon maybe?? Not sure yet. They seem to be performing quite well.

ok Black Screen yesterday, the PC is back to all default.

What do you have for a PSU. That black screen makes me wonder. Was that from slepp or just random?

 

[suraswami]

Not yet but soon maybe?? Not sure yet. They seem to be performing quite well.


What do you have for a PSU. That black screen makes me wonder. Was that from slepp or just random?

Ultra X3 600W modular. It was just random. Watching a movie on Netflix, paused it, went to kitchen to grab something to eat, had chit chat with my son, came back may be in 20 min, no response, just black screen, with numlock light on the keyboard, lights on the case and fans are all working. Only way is to press the shutdown button and restart the PC.

You suspecting it might be the PSU? It's been faithful for 4 to 5 yrs now. Under load, PSU still works cool.

This only happens when I OC the CPU even the slightest!!

 

[eidairaman1]

Ultra xs were good for their time but start looking at a Seasonic Gold unit

 

[Durvelle27]

Not yet but soon maybe?? Not sure yet. They seem to be performing quite well.


What do you have for a PSU. That black screen makes me wonder. Was that from slepp or just random?

How does it OC compared to the 8350

 

[suraswami]

Ultra xs were good for their time but start looking at a Seasonic Gold unit

If you think its PSU, then why does it not do when CPU is at stock? Does this only when idle, not load or gaming!!

 

[eidairaman1]

Netflix/hardware enabled browsers do put a load on the system

 

[suraswami]

Netflix/hardware enabled browsers do put a load on the system

even while paused/idling? I don't get black screen while gaming, when running IBT or even when I tried mining for sometime.

I am reading other forums and some complains it to be AMD video card related, especially turning off the fans and doing the zero core thing. Afterburner is used to stop this power saving feature and few got success in getting rid of Black Screen issue.

 

[suraswami]

All default, it still does random black screen.

hmm hate to buy a PSU to see the problem is still there.

 

[Athlonite]

Try turning of ULPS for the video card I seen that be a problem before

 

[Johan45]

I have seen the same thing recently with AMD don't know if it's a driver issue or not but hardware acceleration in some browsers was causing lockup etc. If you have an older card maybe try an older driver for it and see if there's any difference. I'm thinking in the 13 series before the "mantle" stuff.

 

[suraswami]

Try turning of ULPS for the video card I seen that be a problem before

I am also suspecting the same, downloaded MSI AB and disbled the ULPS. Now the fan on the GPU doesn't turn off. I don't want to get excited or jump into any conclusion yet, the machine has to pass the 36hr sleep/wake/game/stream/browse cycle.

I have seen the same thing recently with AMD don't know if it's a driver issue or not but hardware acceleration in some browsers was causing lockup etc. If you have an older card maybe try an older driver for it and see if there's any difference. I'm thinking in the 13 series before the "mantle" stuff.

That's what I was also thinking while I was driving to work. This nonsense started somewhere last year during 13 series drivers. I thought it was AMD that was having issues with video drivers, visited nVidia forums and lot more people cry in that land with horrible drivers for 7xx series cards, they have the same Black Screen issue during idle.

I was going to jump to greenland, but seeing them cry I am happy both fu***rs have idiot developers (in a way I will blame testers for slipping this).

 

[Johan45]

You may have to throw some of that blame at Java as well and maybe even M$. There's been a lot of conflict between the two and M$ won't even allow me to install JRE on my windows phone. I've heard there's a newer release to come for Java at some point to address the HW acceleration issues.

 

[suraswami]

Died around noon today.

Wife said she was on Facebook and Youtube.

Are those sites messing something?

 

[Johan45]

Don't know about those sites TBH, youtube uses your video card as well. What browser do you use. IE FF Chrome?

 

[Pehla]

guys i have wierd situation with my MB/CPU right now!! i updated bios to the latest beta version.
before update i had beta F10a...,now its F10d...,but no mather what i do it says i have 4cores/4threads!!
i try to OC cpu afte update but had no luck !! restarted pc 10 times by now!! in bios it says all cores enabled
all doh i didnt clear cmos ?? that is going to help??

 

[Athlonite]

hmmm why you using a beta bios did it fix something for you if not then just go back to the last non beta bios

 

[Pehla]

i might be wrong but that latest bios have

1. Update CPU AGESA code

and i tough it might improve some setings and some performance?!?! aint the latest the best??

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

What revision is your Giga board?

 

[Random Murderer]

i might be wrong but that latest bios have

1. Update CPU AGESA code

and i tough it might improve some setings and some performance?!?!

Not really. CPU AGESA code is the microcode used by new CPUs. By their saying they updated it, they are saying that they support new CPUs/APUs.
If a new BIOS version has new features/settings/added stability, chances are it will tell you.

aint the latest the best??

Not always. Generally when it comes to BIOSes, if it's working, don't screw with flashing it, lol.

 

[Pehla]

board is revision 1.0
im going to clear cmos first,,just to see if that fix the situation and if not reflash it to F9 bios..,then will need help from you to OC this thing!!

 

[suraswami]

board is revision 1.0
im going to clear cmos first,,just to see if that fix the situation and if not reflash it to F9 bios..,then will need help from you to OC this thing!!

Always best practice is to manually clear the bios using jumper or removing the cmos battery. These morons don't really test much these days.

Anyway back to my issue. Johan - I am using FF. Following is what I have done so far

Backing up system
Do the following to clean up drivers
1. Uninstall AMD drivers (including chipset)
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/how-to-reinstall-video-drivers-quick-guide.52502/
http://www.overclock.net/t/988215/how-to-remove-your-amd-ati-gpu-drivers

2. Clean up Registry
3. Clean up windows folders
4. Check hidden devices and uninstall
5. Check for AODDriver4.x and uninstall - clean up registry entries too. follow this thread
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/342005-33-event-7000-aoddriver4-error
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-7/1105827-aoddriver4-2-service-failed-start.html

Installed Catalyst 14.4
Changed settings - Monitor go to sleep in 5 min, machine goes to sleep in 15 min
No Overclock on Video card, set to default - 960 clock and 1250 memory.

Cleared the CMOS jumper, reset mobo bios settings. Disabled Turbo and upped the multi to 21, raised the offset voltage, so it boots at 1.39v.

Played BF4 last night for 1.5hrs and this morning about 20 min. No Facebook, No Youtube, just regular browsing. After few successful wake and sleep cycles, I tried to wake the PC 1 hr ago, to be greeted with Black Screen. This time the PC didn't even go into windows, right away Black Screen.

So definitely its the stupid board. So I am just going to leave the CPU at 4 ghz with 1.325v.

I purchased the store warranty, so I can return the board and get a new one, only catch is since I got it as combo from MC, they will not give me full board price, I need to pick something for the money they give me or add more to get better one.

Dilemma is do I really need to throw extra money to get few hundred Mhz on the CPU or just save some money and upgrade the 7950 to R9 290 or GTX 970 (leaning towards this for power savings).