Windows 8 Clubhouse

[t_ski]

I seem to be having issues with shutting down on 8.1 Pro.
I've turned off Hybrid Shutdown, or whatever that so called fast boot thing is in Windows power button options. I've set the power button to shut down when I press it, but my PC still won't shut down properly. I press the power button, and the screen says it's shutting down, I get no signal to my monitors, but the fans still keep spinning and I can see the LED on my GPU. One thing that does happen is I hear my HDD stop spinning and that's it.
How in God's green earth do I get this damn thing to shut down? Is there something in the BIOS that screws with it too???

Are you able to boot into Safe Mode, and then shut down successfully? If that's the case, it's probably a driver issue. Most of the time when an OS does not shut down right, it's driver related.

 

[RCoon]

Are you able to boot into Safe Mode, and then shut down successfully? If that's the case, it's probably a driver issue. Most of the time when an OS does not shut down right, it's driver related.

No idea how to boot into safe mode on Win 8, is it still F8 at post for windows boot options? If it is driver related, I have no idea which one it could be...

 

[Dos101]

Installed the Windows 10 technical preview on a spare SSD I had. I'm finding that I'm way too ingrained in the Start Screen, the Start Menu just feels odd now. I sync my Start Screen layout across multiple devices, so everything is always set up the way I like it. Hopefully the Start Menu will also get OneDrive sync support so that all the customization/layout don't get reset after every new isbtall. I'm glad Microsoft is finally getting that it's beneficial for letting users choose what they want to use now though.

I was reading that too, that users of windows 8 could update to win9 for free. But now we get windows 10, would it still be a free upgrade via windows updates for us windows 8.1 users?

The rumour going around is that Windows 10 would be a free upgrade for Windows 8/8.1 users, but we probably won't know anything solid until the BUILD conference next year.

 

[t_ski]

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-startup-settings-including-safe-mode

As far as which driver would be the one to blame, it's usually the one that was updated right before you started having the problem

You could go through and disable a bunch of devices (one at a time) and see if the system shuts down (possibly might require a reboot). Otehrwise, you should probably start a new thread looking for assistance.

 

[de.das.dude]

"something better", for who, for you, for M$, for NSA, for any low hacker? I think the problem iti is that M$ use a stick , not a candy , to "sell" the "better"OS...like any software it have cons and pros, when pros are more than cons from some user, that user will see as "better", but it is for him not necessary for others...

yes i cant possibly see how most people cannot take advantage of better multi threading, better efficiency, faster loading, 5 second boot times, better ease of use, wider application support from old days etc.

/sarcasm.


i was staying away from windows 8.1 while on windows 7 by listening to idiots like these. never have i/they been wrong.


for one thing is most of these people(these are actually the same people who halted xp->7 and now the 7 -> 8.1 transition) dont even know how to use the compatibilty settings.


i mean i run CS 1.6 on my machine and setup server using port forwarding on my router and it still works like a charm with compatibility settings. everyone told me it would never work.....

this is kinda the opposite of the "the grass is greener on the other side"

 

[RCoon]

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-startup-settings-including-safe-mode

As far as which driver would be the one to blame, it's usually the one that was updated right before you started having the problem

You could go through and disable a bunch of devices (one at a time) and see if the system shuts down (possibly might require a reboot). Otehrwise, you should probably start a new thread looking for assistance.

I've been through and disabled everything individually. Apparently NVidia audio and 3D surround devices were not loaded properly, as well as my LAN driver (despite both of them working). Funnily enough, when I enabled boot logging, the computer shuts down correctly! But after the first shut down it doesnt work correctly again. I tried using driversweeper, and the shut down immediately after that works too, but even if I don't reinstall the NVidia drivers, the PC doesn't shut down correctly after the first successful one either. Obviously it shuts down perfectly from Safe Mode every time, so it is driver related, I just don't know why the Boot Logging seems to allow it to shut down correctly. I've wiped and cleaned all NVidia drivers, and the first shutdown is always successful, but never after that.

EDIT: Success! It turned out to be the "MSI Super Fast Boot" in the BIOS advanced features for Windows 8. It boots by disabling a bunch of USB devices for faster boot times, but causes the system not to shut down. Got 5 successful shutdowns in a row so I call it fixed.

 

[t_ski]

I've been through and disabled everything individually. Apparently NVidia audio and 3D surround devices were not loaded properly, as well as my LAN driver (despite both of them working). Funnily enough, when I enabled boot logging, the computer shuts down correctly! But after the first shut down it doesnt work correctly again. I tried using driversweeper, and the shut down immediately after that works too, but even if I don't reinstall the NVidia drivers, the PC doesn't shut down correctly after the first successful one either. Obviously it shuts down perfectly from Safe Mode every time, so it is driver related, I just don't know why the Boot Logging seems to allow it to shut down correctly. I've wiped and cleaned all NVidia drivers, and the first shutdown is always successful, but never after that.

EDIT: Success! It turned out to be the "MSI Super Fast Boot" in the BIOS advanced features for Windows 8. It boots by disabling a bunch of USB devices for faster boot times, but causes the system not to shut down. Got 5 successful shutdowns in a row so I call it fixed.

Good to hear!

 

[t_ski]

Does anyone know if there's a legit way to get an ISO of Win 8.1 for my retail key? If it had Update 1 in it, that would be even better.

 

[TRWOV]

You need to run the

Does anyone know if there's a legit way to get an ISO of Win 8.1 for my retail key? If it had Update 1 in it, that would be even better.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-download-the-official-microsoft-windows-8-1-iso/

Hats off to FX-GMC for the link


After you get the ISO:

At the end I got the 8.1 ISO as described above and made a clean install with it:


Used the appropriate VLK installation key (keys are listed at technet: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj612867.aspx ) since the 8.1 setup wouldn't take my W8 key

Install 8.1, open regedit and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/

MediabootInstall = 0
RetailInstall = 0

Open CMD as administrator
slmgr /ipk your-Win8-key-with-hypens
slmgr /rearm

restart and activate.

You might need to use the automated phone activation (it seems to be pretty random, I've reinstalled 8.1 in 5 different PCs and had to call to activate 2 of them).

 

[t_ski]

Thanks - I'll give that a shot.

 

[t_ski]

You need to run the



http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-download-the-official-microsoft-windows-8-1-iso/

Hats off to FX-GMC for the link


After you get the ISO:



You might need to use the automated phone activation (it seems to be pretty random, I've reinstalled 8.1 in 5 different PCs and had to call to activate 2 of them).

This did not seem to work for me. In the article, it refers to blue buttons to click on for the installs, and the site now has purple buttons. You're also prompted for a key for each link you click, and my key does not work for the 8.1 file.

Anyone have anything else?

 

[TRWOV]

bummer, I guess MS patched that

I suppose someone could send you the ISO *wink* *wink* I'd do it but I saved the Spanish ISO

 

[FX-GMC]

This did not seem to work for me. In the article, it refers to blue buttons to click on for the installs, and the site now has purple buttons. You're also prompted for a key for each link you click, and my key does not work for the 8.1 file.

Anyone have anything else?

I have the ISO on my NAS at home. Can't access it remotely today for some reason. If I remember I'll shoot you a link to it later.

 

[Drone]

Just installed new build 9860. (updated from Build 9841 to be exact). It's got new notification center, new pc settings and >7000 changes and fixes. Takes aaaaaaaaaaaaaaages to update but nothing is lost XD


Video by winbeta

 

[Drone]

LOL just found out they made zPC Settings I took comparison screenshots of normal PC settings and alternative zPC Settings:

And then I found this article

 

[TheMailMan78]

I've been through and disabled everything individually. Apparently NVidia audio and 3D surround devices were not loaded properly, as well as my LAN driver (despite both of them working). Funnily enough, when I enabled boot logging, the computer shuts down correctly! But after the first shut down it doesnt work correctly again. I tried using driversweeper, and the shut down immediately after that works too, but even if I don't reinstall the NVidia drivers, the PC doesn't shut down correctly after the first successful one either. Obviously it shuts down perfectly from Safe Mode every time, so it is driver related, I just don't know why the Boot Logging seems to allow it to shut down correctly. I've wiped and cleaned all NVidia drivers, and the first shutdown is always successful, but never after that.

EDIT: Success! It turned out to be the "MSI Super Fast Boot" in the BIOS advanced features for Windows 8. It boots by disabling a bunch of USB devices for faster boot times, but causes the system not to shut down. Got 5 successful shutdowns in a row so I call it fixed.

Just to let you know this same exact happen to me two days ago. I shut it down and everything was still on despite windows being off. I think one of the latest windows updates screwed something up. You are not alone sir.

I fixed mine by turning off the computer and unplugging it from the wall for a few minutes. Zero power. After that everything seems to be fine. Ill let you know if it comes back.

 

[Drone]

Ain't been posting here for ages but anyway:

Create installation media for Windows 8.1

If you want to install or reinstall Windows 8.1 and don't have installation media, you can create it from this page. You’ll need to use a PC with a reliable Internet connection and either save the installation files to a USB flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD.

 

[t_ski]

Ain't been posting here for ages but anyway:

Create installation media for Windows 8.1

If you want to install or reinstall Windows 8.1 and don't have installation media, you can create it from this page. You’ll need to use a PC with a reliable Internet connection and either save the installation files to a USB flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD.

You also need a valid 8.1 key for that now, as the old click-cancel-click won't work with a Win8 key

 

[mastrdrver]

You also need a valid 8.1 key for that now, as the old click-cancel-click won't work with a Win8 key

You can't use the temp key and then your W8 key to register with that method?

 

[Raw]

Ain't been posting here for ages but anyway:

Create installation media for Windows 8.1

If you want to install or reinstall Windows 8.1 and don't have installation media, you can create it from this page. You’ll need to use a PC with a reliable Internet connection and either save the installation files to a USB flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD.

Hey thanks for the link and it works, downloading right now to a USB.

 

[t_ski]

You can't use the temp key and then your W8 key to register with that method?

The old method was something like clicking on the blue download box, putting in your Win8 key, clicking ok, then click cancel and then click the 8.1 link. Since then they change this to a purple box and you have to put in the right key for each version you want: Win8 for Win8, 8.1 for 8.1.

 

[FX-GMC]

You also need a valid 8.1 key for that now, as the old click-cancel-click won't work with a Win8 key

I don't think that tool asks for a key if you are running the version of Windows you are trying to download the ISO for.

• If you’re running Windows 7, you’ll need to enter a Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key. You'll also need a product key if you're running Windows 8 and trying to install Windows 8.1 Pro. To learn how to buy Windows 8.1 to get a product key, go to the Get Windows page.

 

[mastrdrver]

I don't think that tool asks for a key if you are running the version of Windows you are trying to download the ISO for.

This is correct as I just tried it. It only let me create media for W8.1 even though I only have a W8 key. It never asked me for a key though.

 

[Drone]

Windows 10 Build 9879 released (last update for 2014).

New features:

1) a checkbox menu option where you can turn off/on Task View and Search icons in the toolbar (I got rid of them XD)

2) simplified OneDrive experience

W10 will now use what MS calls selective sync, where you'll need to specify what's saved to your PC, and what MS keeps in its OneDrive cloud. MS appears to be killing OneDrive app, allowing users access to OneDrive strictly through the File Explorer. (fuck yeah!)

3) 5 new three-finger gestures to swipe through Windows 10's UI

• 3 fingers up launches Task View

• 3 fingers down to Show Desktop

• 3 fingers flick to left/right to switch to previous app (go back 1)

• 3 fingers move left/right: Alt-Tab (Task View) pops up, and you can select the app you want (remove fingers to select)

• 3-finger tap: Search

4) Snap Assist works across multiple monitors

5) New IE that utilizes Edge rendering engine, designed for improved compatibility with the various sites on the Web.

6) MKV container support!!! Users can now play MKV files directly from Windows Media Player, including desktop and modern apps), along with proper thumbnail images and MKV support.

 

[Drone]

Windows 10 build 9879 download

Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Preview download