Intel Haswell Overclocking Clubhouse.

[El_Mayo]

What version of Prime 95? Ive seen the most recent not really advised for Haswell due to the amount heat. I tend to loop a x264 benchmark for couple hours for initial stress testing, then use games, and benchmarks.

I dont see much of a point in using a synthetic way of stressing like Prime 95, because there really isn't much out there in terms of real world, that will stress it that hard.

The newest one out. People were saying not to use prime as it stresses Haswell ridiculously on a few forums I found after Google searches.Is x264 a benchmark encoding H.264 video by any chance? If so that's really good cos the build is partly for editing and rendering clips is a big part of that so that's a more realistic load

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Just got a 0x0000001e BSOD. Something not handled. Memory seems to be all sorts of fubar, and this is right after a Skyrim freeze up once I was able to stop the the non responding process.

KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

 

[cadaveca]

Just got a 0x0000001e BSOD. Something not handled. Memory seems to be all sorts of fubar, and this is right after a Skyrim freeze up once I was able to stop the the non responding process.

KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

You could try boost vDIMM up to 1.65V and see if that helps. Seems my Samsungs took a dump recently too...I BLAME SOLAR FLARES!!! ROFL.

At the same time, a mod for skyrim could be causing a memory leak, and that's why you had the 1e error. So maybe dump the skyrim install first, try fresh download, and see what happens. The fact you can exit the process kind of says to me there's more to this problem than how it first appears.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

You could try boost vDIMM up to 1.65V and see if that helps. Seems my Samsungs took a dump recently too...I BLAME SOLAR FLARES!!! ROFL.

At the same time, a mod for skyrim could be causing a memory leak, and that's why you had the 1e error. So maybe dump the skyrim install first, try fresh download, and see what happens. The fact you can exit the process kind of says to me there's more to this problem than how it first appears.

I had my DIMMs at 1.65v already. Something is definitely up. Gonna be doing a lot of investigation tonight. Maybe first step would be too disable ENB first. If it still occurs, disable all my esp plugins for skyrim and see if it still happens. If that all doesnt work, I will look into other things.

EDIT: Its not the ENB causing the issue. Just had the freeze while I deleted everything pertaining to the ENB. Time to check for some mod conflicts then I guess.

 

[cadaveca]

I had my DIMMs at 1.65v already. Something is definitely up. Gonna be doing a lot of investigation tonight. Maybe first step would be too disable ENB first. If it still occurs, disable all my esp plugins for skyrim and see if it still happens. If that all doesnt work, I will look into other things.

EDIT: Its not the ENB causing the issue. Just had the freeze while I deleted everything pertaining to the ENB. Time to check for some mod conflicts then I guess.

I don't think disabling mods is enough, just FYI. You gotta get rid of the core Skyrim, too.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I don't think disabling mods is enough, just FYI. You gotta get rid of the core Skyrim, too.

Yeah ill look into it. I just had a thought as I was cleaning my system of dust. Seems to me that the PSU hasnt been able to breath very well. atleast a 1/4 of an inch of dust was caked on the filter for the PSU. Maybe heat of the PSU a light possibility? I just reset my BIOS. Saved the OC profile I had before. gonna test everything at stock.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

So system is at stock fresh install of skyrim with all the mods reinstalled, otherwise itll CTD when I try to load a save. After all that. Stuff still freezes up. I am kind of out of ideas as to how to get this damn game to run right. Ive never have this many issues with a modded Skyrim.

 

[TheHunter]

Just got a 0x0000001e BSOD. Something not handled. Memory seems to be all sorts of fubar, and this is right after a Skyrim freeze up once I was able to stop the the non responding process.

KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

Either cache voltage too low or cache freq. too high, or you need more ram current in DIGI+.

In digi+
LLC- auto
cpu current - 120%
ram current - 110 or 120% (i have to use 120% & vccsa 0.040v offset for 4.6ghz or 0.055v+ for 4.7ghz)

I stopped having all issues when I returned to my old OC, no vDIO tweaks (guess cause i have only offset and idk what value it sets to), but i did have this BSOD too, higher input voltage seemed to help as well, although I used a lot lower then you for 4.7ghz@1.28v >> 1.75v, now 1.77v.

 

[fullinfusion]

A cold night of Overclocking, I just ran Star Swarm on Steam and this is what I got,

Cpu: @4.8GHz

 

[petedread]

Have got to set off to go to work. Wonder if I could save some time and a google search and just ask you guys. Is my Kingston HyperX predator 3000mhz kit single sided or double sided? It is Hynix, that was quick and easy to find out on google but I have run out of time.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kingston-hyperx-predator-ddr4-16gb-3000mhz-memory-kit-review_149960

Found this review, in case anyone is interested.

 

[fullinfusion]

Have got to set off to go to work. Wonder if I could save some time and a google search and just ask you guys. Is my Kingston HyperX predator 3000mhz kit single sided or double sided? It is Hynix, that was quick and easy to find out on google but I have run out of time.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kingston-hyperx-predator-ddr4-16gb-3000mhz-memory-kit-review_149960

Found this review, in case anyone is interested.

This isnt a DDR4 thread but hey,whatever, cool!!!! ... if I had to chime in it's single sided ram but @cadaveca would know for sure!

He's the master memory GURU of memory guru shit

 

[cadaveca]

Have got to set off to go to work. Wonder if I could save some time and a google search and just ask you guys. Is my Kingston HyperX predator 3000mhz kit single sided or double sided? It is Hynix, that was quick and easy to find out on google but I have run out of time.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kingston-hyperx-predator-ddr4-16gb-3000mhz-memory-kit-review_149960

Found this review, in case anyone is interested.

16 GB should be single-sided, 32 GB double-sided.

 

[FireFox]

Just got a 0x0000001e BSOD. Something not handled. Memory seems to be all sorts of fubar, and this is right after a Skyrim freeze up once I was able to stop the the non responding process.

KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

that reminds me a BSOD that i had a few days ago

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

did you used some software to see what caused the BSOD?

 

[Robert England]

Hey club, I just bought my very first Pre-Built machine (always built them myself) but this time I got a DELL 7910 Workstation with a 10-core/20 Thread XEON E5-2650 V3 proc. and 32GB of DDR4-2133, I am an Animator not really a Tech (per-se) though I have always had to be one,. I was wondering if can someone tell me how much of a boost I can expect from this over my old hand built Asus Sabertooth X58 with a 12core i7-970 and 12GB of DDR2 (I think its DDR2..) First, will my Speed be Slower because I used to have the 6 core 3.2 Ghz i7-970 and now will have the 10 core 2.5ghz (3.0 Ghz in Turbo mode) E5-2650 v3. Is it like that or am I (hopefully) misunderstanding.. I can make anything I (or a director) can think of in the mind, and I have spent quarter century getting good at Animation and visual FX, but tech stuff has just been on the side, as needed, but I'm finally a little out of my depths. Having skipped a generation of hardware to 'boot'!
I just hope I haven't gone backwards in any way... that's all. I work in 3DS MAX and all the usual Hollywood media production tools, I am hoping to finally be able to build an elaborate scene and be able to render it out in less than a week. (or my golden frame rule, 'less than a minute a frame') Also, can someone tell me how important HDD over SSD is in this case? I have never had a HHD go bad (well, maybe one after 12 years) but 2 of my SSD's have gone bad randomly, an OCZ Vertex 1, so I got an OCZ Vertex 2 , it went bad And now I have a Vertex 3 (a trend!) LOL. Somehow the SSD made the machine cost like $6000 more so I went for a 2 TB SATA (probably only 12GB/sec) but I hope it will serve me well as I create my worlds. I have skipped a whole generation of DDR (3) I never did that before, and it looks like the 7910 just came out 3 months ago, I hope I made a good decision for an animator., It looks like my motherboard can take another processor (I hope) and it can take 1000GB of DDR4-2133. I hope my 32GB is enough. I am used to having 8GB for years then 12GB for last 3 years, 32 seems like a lot to me, 1000 seems crazy LOL Thank you in advance, Is it a good machine I... (here I would usually say I Built) Ordered.. ;~) I am prepared to download something and post results if anybody is curious but it doesn't get here for a while (Early January) (they sure take a while to build it, I always built my in an afternoon,..) LOL Also, anybody think it may be possible to overclock a 7910 with these parts? I already have a water cool system (heck they're like $70 now, I got one for the i7-970 and it nearly hovers at room temp on the auto 3.6 Ghz overclock setting!) Thanks for Any and ALL advice, info, suggestions and warnings, I'm a little nervous getting such an expensive machine (the retail total before some nice discounts was right around $5500-$6000, I have never spent that much maybe on all my computers put together LOL (well, except for all the QUADRO CARDS, I'm sure you feel me there...) also, I got the lowest end card DELL offered, some Quadro NVS 512MB or something.. I'm putting in my existing QUADRO K4000, then recycling my QUADRO FX 4600 back into its long time home the i7-970 Sabertooth! :") Anyone see a problem with the card in this machine? I wanted to lower the price so I could get a little beter proc (the 10 core instead of the 6) It sure will be nice to see 20 render Threads on one machine while Rendering in 3ds Max!

 

[Solaris17]

Hey club, I just bought my very first Pre-Built machine (always built them myself) but this time I got a DELL 7910 Workstation with a 10-core/20 Thread XEON E5-2650 V3 proc. and 32GB of DDR4-2133, I am an Animator not really a Tech (per-se) though I have always had to be one,. I was wondering if can someone tell me how much of a boost I can expect from this over my old hand built Asus Sabertooth X58 with a 12core i7-970 and 12GB of DDR2 (I think its DDR2..) First, will my Speed be Slower because I used to have the 6 core 3.2 Ghz i7-970 and now will have the 10 core 2.5ghz (3.0 Ghz in Turbo mode) E5-2650 v3. Is it like that or am I (hopefully) misunderstanding.. I can make anything I (or a director) can think of in the mind, and I have spent quarter century getting good at Animation and visual FX, but tech stuff has just been on the side, as needed, but I'm finally a little out of my depths. Having skipped a generation of hardware to 'boot'!
I just hope I haven't gone backwards in any way... that's all. I work in 3DS MAX and all the usual Hollywood media production tools, I am hoping to finally be able to build an elaborate scene and be able to render it out in less than a week. (or my golden frame rule, 'less than a minute a frame') Also, can someone tell me how important HDD over SSD is in this case? I have never had a HHD go bad (well, maybe one after 12 years) but 2 of my SSD's have gone bad randomly, an OCZ Vertex 1, so I got an OCZ Vertex 2 , it went bad And now I have a Vertex 3 (a trend!) LOL. Somehow the SSD made the machine cost like $6000 more so I went for a 2 TB SATA (probably only 12GB/sec) but I hope it will serve me well as I create my worlds. I have skipped a whole generation of DDR (3) I never did that before, and it looks like the 7910 just came out 3 months ago, I hope I made a good decision for an animator., It looks like my motherboard can take another processor (I hope) and it can take 1000GB of DDR4-2133. I hope my 32GB is enough. I am used to having 8GB for years then 12GB for last 3 years, 32 seems like a lot to me, 1000 seems crazy LOL Thank you in advance, Is it a good machine I... (here I would usually say I Built) Ordered.. ;~) I am prepared to download something and post results if anybody is curious but it doesn't get here for a while (Early January) (they sure take a while to build it, I always built my in an afternoon,..) LOL Also, anybody think it may be possible to overclock a 7910 with these parts? I already have a water cool system (heck they're like $70 now, I got one for the i7-970 and it nearly hovers at room temp on the auto 3.6 Ghz overclock setting!) Thanks for Any and ALL advice, info, suggestions and warnings, I'm a little nervous getting such an expensive machine (the retail total before some nice discounts was right around $5500-$6000, I have never spent that much maybe on all my computers put together LOL (well, except for all the QUADRO CARDS, I'm sure you feel me there...) also, I got the lowest end card DELL offered, some Quadro NVS 512MB or something.. I'm putting in my existing QUADRO K4000, then recycling my QUADRO FX 4600 back into its long time home the i7-970 Sabertooth! :") Anyone see a problem with the card in this machine? I wanted to lower the price so I could get a little beter proc (the 10 core instead of the 6) It sure will be nice to see 20 render Threads on one machine while Rendering in 3ds Max!

bro walloftext.jpg line breaks please.

your 970 was DDR3 not DDR2. those SSDs had problems with their controllers back in the day (IIRC) in this case the clock speed means nothing since all of your software will benefit from the extra cores. 32gb is enough ram. I reccomend a big HDD for saving work and an SSD for the programs and OS. a better card may help you when it comes to rendering time but its all about what you want to spend.

that machine is a good step up.

 

[Robert England]

bro walloftext.jpg line breaks please.

your 970 was DDR3 not DDR2. those SSDs had problems with their controllers back in the day (IIRC) in this case the clock speed means nothing since all of your software will benefit from the extra cores. 32gb is enough ram. I reccomend a big HDD for saving work and an SSD for the programs and OS. a better card may help you when it comes to rendering time but its all about what you want to spend.

that machine is a good step up.

That's great news thank you! Can I ask, would it be worth it to take my OCZ Vertex 3 SSD out of my Sabertooth and use it for my boot drive, or is it the wrong speed class (6GB/sec as opposed to 12GB/sec) or any other issue, (like the Controllers you mentioned, are they finally fixed in my Vertex 3?) It seems pretty happy in my Sabertooth MB, giving a 7.9 out of 7.9 windows index #...
Also, do I need to secure erase the Vertex 3 or can I just fresh windows install over what is there and be ok in the Dell? Although I use one now I had planned to basically forego all things SSD forever because OCZ made it all all such a technical nightmare..

Could I get away with just treating it like a HDD for the Dell? (???) Sure would be nice to just buy stuff that works without having to spend 99% percent of my time trying to get the darn ridiculous hardware happy and 1% of time actually Animating and speaking to my future.

I kinf of see what you're saying about clock speed vs. Threads, BUT, 3DS MAX will use all the threads when rendering, wouldn't it be way faster to have a faster clock speed? Its all so confusing, and it never gets any easier! LOL
Thanks

What does the 'wall of text.jpg' thing mean? Did I write too much again? Every year that goes by I notice more and more people saying things like that:
'omg that text is too much' and 'those emails are too big, will take me a year to read that'..
It must be a generational thing, I never minded reading complete information regardless of format or length.
People lately also don't like sitting through anything longer than a few seconds in a tv show or movie either, resulting in what looks to me like a 2-hour Strobe Light, not a thought provoking and soul enriching movie. We have lost much. To me line breaks are merely introduced, empty unnecessary space. Info is info, empty space is empty space.

 

[Robert England]

I guess I used to many words, I will try to make it simpler ... I have a New DELL T7910 Dell Precision., it has a XEON E5 2650 v3. I got the 32GB DDRF4-2133 package. It says it is a 2.3Ghz proc, can someone tell me:
1) what is the upper-limit speed I might be able to achieve by overclocking it? and
2) How to Overclock? I mean what is the first step, I posted here 2 weeks ago, but all I was told is that I typed too much...... Just this once could you look at some text, infer meaning from its layout and definitions, and respond with what you know on the subject? Just as I do when I am asked about something I know about (Science, Animation, Programming, Visual FX,)
I mean This IS the right place and the right Time,.,, So whats the problem? Wall of text. Jeez. If not here then where?!?!

 

[TheHunter]

I guess I used to many words, I will try to make it simpler ... I have a New DELL T7910 Dell Precision., it has a XEON E5 2650 v3. I got the 32GB DDRF4-2133 package. It says it is a 2.3Ghz proc, can someone tell me:
1) what is the upper-limit speed I might be able to achieve by overclocking it? and
2) How to Overclock? I mean what is the first step, I posted here 2 weeks ago, but all I was told is that I typed too much...... Just this once could you look at some text, infer meaning from its layout and definitions, and respond with what you know on the subject? Just as I do when I am asked about something I know about (Science, Animation, Programming, Visual FX,)
I mean This IS the right place and the right Time,.,, So whats the problem? Wall of text. Jeez. If not here then where?!?!

Looks like you have a 10core cpu in it, max turbo clock 3ghz.
http://ark.intel.com/products/81705/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2650-v3-25M-Cache-2_30-GHz
So max multi would be 3ghz, if you use something like "Multicore enhancement" in bios/uefi, it will boost all 10cores @ 3ghz instead only a few..


Plus maybe bclk OC a little, not much though..

From Anadtech review

Overclocking...?
As per Intel's Xeon policy, the E5-26xx v3 processors are multiplier locked. For competitive overclockers, this is rather frustrating given that the Xeon processor line are often the better selected dies that also can pack a punch. So while multiplier overclocking is not possible, for motherboards with overclocking oriented BIOS options we can adjust the BCLK. While we never published the data at the time, the Ivy Bridge-EP processors we had in to test were good for 113 MHz (+13%), although 110 MHz had a good balance of overclock and stability.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8584/...-e5-2650-v3-review-haswell-ep-with-10-cores/2

 

[Robert England]

Looks like you have a 10core cpu in it, max turbo clock 3ghz.
http://ark.intel.com/products/81705/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2650-v3-25M-Cache-2_30-GHz
So max multi would be 3ghz, if you use something like "Multicore enhancement" in bios/uefi, it will boost all 10cores @ 3ghz instead only a few..


Plus maybe bclk OC a little, not much though..

From Anadtech review

3GhZ would be great! A better answer than I expected frankly. 3gHz that would be about where I am at now in terms of clock speed.. (of course I know the whole thing is way faster because its a generation newer than my i7-970 6 core, with more bandwidth and data channels etc.) but that is a worthy 'oc' goal!
Can you tell me , where I would be able to change to that speed, in my BIOS or ? Is the 'multicore enhancement' a part of the BIOS?
THANKS!

 

[Toothless]

Time for me to join the club!

 

[TheHunter]

3GhZ would be great! A better answer than I expected frankly. 3gHz that would be about where I am at now in terms of clock speed.. (of course I know the whole thing is way faster because its a generation newer than my i7-970 6 core, with more bandwidth and data channels etc.) but that is a worthy 'oc' goal!
Can you tell me , where I would be able to change to that speed, in my BIOS or ? Is the 'multicore enhancement' a part of the BIOS?
THANKS!

Hm, guess not.. I found this in one thread;

Multi Core Support
Intel Speed Step
C States
Limit CPUID Value
Cache Prefetch
Dell Reliable Memory Technology

Yet, the online owner's manual document indicates these as the options I should be seeing:

Multi Core Support
Intel Speed Step
C States
Limit CPUID Value
Intel TurboBoost
Hyper-Thread Control Cache Prefetch
Dell Reliable Memory Technology
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13974_102-631457/hyper-threading-on-dell-t7910/

&
http://del.com/support/manuals/au/e...-us/GUID-D81AB7B6-2399-4295-8044-1F943A4404A8

In uefi/bios check for Intel TurboBoost cpu multipler if you have it, also update to latest A02 just in case if its not already.

And you can disable C1E state,, but switch to balanced power plan in windows or it will run at max fixed freq. all the time then.

 

[fullinfusion]

Time for me to join the club!

And what ya getting for clocks bulbie?

 

[Toothless]

And what ya getting for clocks bulbie?

4ghz stock, while bumping the turbo up .1ghz. Not much I know but I didn't get the best of chips. Highest my vcore gets is 1.268v. Max of 80c in OCCT after a bit.

 

[fullinfusion]

4ghz stock, while bumping the turbo up .1ghz. Not much I know but I didn't get the best of chips. Highest my vcore gets is 1.268v. Max of 80c in OCCT after a bit.

If you clear the cmos and then go into the bios and select LOAD OPTIMIZED SETTINGS / save and re-boot into the bios, what is the cpu voltage showing?

That can let us know what type of bin you have and maybe help cooling that sucker down a bit with some tweaks

Also that voltage is way to high for stock volts, you can drop it down

 

[Toothless]

If you clear the cmos and then go into the bios and select LOAD OPTIMIZED SETTINGS / save and re-boot into the bios, what is the cpu voltage showing?

That can let us know what type of bin you have and maybe help cooling that sucker down a bit with some tweaks

Also that voltage is way to high for stock volts, you can drop it down

The voltage is stock thru and thru. When I first got it, the CPU was running at 1.46v. Updated the BIOS and went down to what it is now. OneMoar sat there helping me with getting it to run as well as it does now.