Perfectly Functional GTX 970 Cards Being Returned Over Memory Controversy

xfia · Jan 30, 2015

I think the HSA foundation needs to give NV a lesson on the parallel nature of gpu's.. The whole design is flawed by basic principle. gaming? yeah it can hurt there but what about editing, rendering and NV own Cuda apps... ouch...

mxp02 · Jan 30, 2015

xfia said:
what exactly do you mean? I'm a gamer so I base my experience off of performance.. new architectures are great but how much is it really worth when the most they can boast is efficiency. spending millions on research and not increasing ipc is almost sad to me and borders pathetic if a new architecture sits on a smaller lithography.
this can give you a bit of a idea how much performance has really increased in recent generations
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
a lot of gamers have zero reason to make upgrades with years old hardware

Totally agree with your last line.There are a lot of gamers still using cards like 5-year-old 5770 even intel HD 1000 series,running games at 720p low 10-20fps;a lot of gamers can't notice the difference between 20 fps and 60fps;a lot of gamers does't bother low medium or high;a lot of gamers are happy with games looks like Quake 3.It's their choice,does it have anything to do with the definition of a mid-range card?200 years ago the avg height of japanese male is 5‘1",if you were 5'7",that was really tall.Time changed,nowadays 5'7" is merely avg.

buggalugs · Jan 30, 2015

wow, its incredible that even after this debacle, and even Nvidia themselves admitting it is a huge problem that is going to cost them financially, there are still a handful of the same guys here saying theres no problem, its all a beat up etc.

You guys are completely wrong, and I seriously gotta question your motivations and your morals really...It doesn't matter which team you like, when someone does something wrong , they should be criticised so it wont happen again.

Its is a commercial disaster to be caught out being dishonest about specs, in an industry where specs are an important selling point of these cards.

The big question is why it took Nvidia 3 months and post Christmas sales to admit to this problem?? Then they only admitted it after it was reported by tech sites. Its bad form. Nvidia need a kick in the shins to stop them pulling this crap again.

Max Mojo · Jan 30, 2015

Obviously that's the way it's meant to treat customers nowadays. This guy Jen-Hsun appeared always a bit too boastful at his launch parties. This issue is called a fraud, done voluntarily and not by miscommunication.
But however sound the facts are, the army of nvidia evangelists will whitewash them. Seems to be some sort of overprotection.

rtwjunkie · Jan 30, 2015

Used, perfectly functional 970's, here I come! These are going to be a steal! :rockout:

inferKNOX · Jan 30, 2015

You guys gotta read this conversation, it's rather hilarious:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ons-of-GTX-970&p=471750&viewfull=1#post471750

JMO · Jan 30, 2015

inferKNOX said:
You guys gotta read this conversation, it's rather hilarious:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ons-of-GTX-970&p=471750&viewfull=1#post471750

No,

is hilarious.

64K · Jan 30, 2015

inferKNOX said:
You guys gotta read this conversation, it's rather hilarious:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ons-of-GTX-970&p=471750&viewfull=1#post471750

That was some funny stuff. Thanks.

rtwjunkie · Jan 30, 2015

inferKNOX said:
You guys gotta read this conversation, it's rather hilarious:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ons-of-GTX-970&p=471750&viewfull=1#post471750

Good find! That is indeed funny stuff! And really, do you know how many years it has been since I have run accross a motherboard that didn't support a video card? But that rep was sticking to that story! "If it's not in the script, I cannot think." LOL!!?..... :wtf:

lukart · Jan 30, 2015

Uau who did they hire? A pretty Chinese girl that is reading from the RMA guidelines book?

TRWOV · Jan 30, 2015

Where's the "Hitler finds out that the GTX970 is 3.5GB" video?

Come on internet, try to keep up.

Ralfies · Jan 30, 2015

JMO said:
No,

is hilarious.

That's the greatest thing I've ever seen.

AsRock · Jan 30, 2015

TRWOV said:
Where's the "Hitler finds out that the GTX970 is 3.5GB" video? Come on internet, try to keep up.

@TRWOV

There had to be one
It's the way it's meant to be gimped

GAR · Jan 30, 2015

This proves how dumb some people can be, the 970 is still the best bang for buck, why didn't anyone return the R9 290X reference design that was running at 10,000 degrees and took 5000 gigawatts to run it. IMO the 290X is one of the biggest GPU Failures ever, sure it performs, but I put it in the same class as the FX5900. This isnt a red vs Green, its a look at things from both sides.

xkche · Jan 30, 2015

inferKNOX said:
You guys gotta read this conversation, it's rather hilarious:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ons-of-GTX-970&p=471750&viewfull=1#post471750

WTF!, no way.

That video XD

newtekie1 · Jan 30, 2015

GAR said:
This proves how dumb some people can be, the 970 is still the best bang for buck, why didn't anyone return the R9 290X reference design that was running at 10,000 degrees and took 5000 gigawatts to run it.

And don't forget how it wouldn't run at advertised clocks...

GAR said:
IMO the 290X is one of the biggest GPU Failures ever, sure it performs, but I put it in the same class as the FX5900. This isnt a red vs Green, its a look at things from both sides.

I think I've said this before, but the Hawaii is a worse release than Fermi. A full Hawaii consumes more power than a full Fermi did, relative to the competition Hawaii consumes way more power than Fermi did, and at least Fermi outperformed the competition while Hawaii doesn't.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Jan 30, 2015

JMO said:
Ahahahaha. Nvidia is going to eat some s**t over this debacle.

It's hilarious.

I have an image in my mind of all these 970 owners flocking to the local retailer waving their under-specced GPU's angrily in the air.

Cash will be flowing from the Nvidia coffers this quarter.

lolol Nvidia.

AMD fanboy much? I really dont get this stupid fanboy crap. Fucking childish and just makes you look like a loser with a low IQ.

xfia · Jan 30, 2015

hahaha what company does ngreedia think it is? fucking apple?

Frederik S · Jan 30, 2015

I think this video sums it up perfectly!

On a more to the point note, I think it is insane that NV would resort to fake marketing they clearly did not need it for the GTX 970 to be a success or the 980 for that matter.

remixedcat · Jan 31, 2015

people are dumbshits for returning these awesome cards... if anyone cant then I would gladly take one!

xorbe · Jan 31, 2015

Yeah, seems silly to return the cards for most people, even though it was a crap move by nVidia. But I'm not going to complain if it gets the message across.

JMO · Jan 31, 2015

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
AMD fanboy much? I really dont get this stupid fanboy crap. Fucking childish and just makes you look like a loser with a low IQ.

What fanboy crap? Observing events and coming to conclusions doesn't put you on one "team" or another.

Get of your high-horse mate. It just funny, and I'm having a laugh.

I would be laughing just as hard at an AMD cock-up of these proportions.

Simply truth is that there is already a fantastic number of 970 owners virtually waving their GPUs in Nvidia's face. You just have to look at the Nvidia forums.

It's pretty funny.

remixedcat · Jan 31, 2015

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
AMD fanboy much? I really dont get this stupid fanboy crap. Fucking childish and just makes you look like a loser with a low IQ.

Very true statement here!

Prima.Vera · Jan 31, 2015

You wont get over 3GB of VRAM if you play at 1080p anyways. And the 4K users are still buying the 980 card.
IMO this whole thingy overreacted to much...

Xzibit · Jan 31, 2015

Prima.Vera said:
You wont get over 3GB of VRAM if you play at 1080p anyways. And the 4K users are still buying the 980 card.
IMO this whole thingy overreacted to much...

Eh,, Really ?

NVIDIA GeForce 980 970 Reviewer's Guide said:
Like the GeForce GTX 980, the GeForce GTX 970 is designed for 2560x1600 gaming with maximum graphics settings and high levels of AA enabled. NVIDIA recommends two GeForce GTX 970 cards running in SLI for the best gaming experience at 4K.

They're marketing the card for people to push it to a situation where the segmented memory becomes an issue.

Its like there asking for it.

Then buyers keep getting told different things.

PCWorld - Nvidia clarifies: No specific GTX 970 driver to improve memory allocation performance planned

If the card is truly working as intended. There should be no problem running maxed out at 2560x1600 or SLI 4k. Why would there be any need to tell a user to limit there setting in 1440p or 1080p.

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