Perfectly Functional GTX 970 Cards Being Returned Over Memory Controversy

[Parn]

With this amount of 970 returns, I wonder how the 960 is going to stand when the market is full of discounted open box/refurbished 970s.

If I were an owner of a SINGLE 970, I'd rather wait for some game bundle/$100 voucher off your next upgrade kind of compensations instead of returning the card without second thought.

If people are returning 970s for the misleading specs published by NV, then anyone of them with a 4th gen Core CPUs should also return the product to Intel as Haswell was advertised as having TSX support, but the feature was removed after a bug was found by the community with no compensation from Intel.

 

[bogami]

If they canot drop the price on real 230$ (even this is too much)! it should now look into piles in front of their doors ! greedy bastards .Processors that should be in the trash because of imperfect operation of the entire processor is locked in part (the part that is defective cutting silicone) and instead of partially cover the cost of production want to do with garbage greasy profit .the sad thing is that we will do this with TITAN X.
So it is when you stand constructional problems in software drivers and this then it bites you in the ass nVidia. However, please note that this lesson will not sobered them up. I want to see fall to the bottom and then they will begin again to respected customers . We live in an age of information and misinformation, and it seems that nVidia is more on the misinformation .Many blindly buy and do not know how many tricks is here ..

 

[Tomgang]

GTX 970 is a nice Card whit low power use and a nice performence. I am not returning my two Cards. But this better not ever happen again or i will be returning Cards next time.

this is how i feel about this

http://puu.sh/f69Ef/bed6f1d282.gif

 

[64K]

If they canot drop the price on real 230$ (even this is too much)! it should now look into piles in front of their doors ! greedy bastards .Processors that should be in the trash because of imperfect operation of the entire processor is locked in part (the part that is defective cutting silicone) and instead of partially cover the cost of production want to do with garbage greasy profit .the sad thing is that we will do this with TITAN X.
So it is when you stand constructional problems in software drivers and this then it bites you in the ass nVidia. However, please note that this lesson will not sobered them up. I want to see fall to the bottom and then they will begin again to respected customers . We live in an age of information and misinformation, and it seems that nVidia is more on the misinformation .Many blindly buy and do not know how many tricks is here ..

That's easy for you to say.

$230 for a GTX 970 isn't going to happen but I do expect if this dings Nvidia's sales of chips too much that there will be a price decrease soon.

 

[NightOfChrist]

If they canot drop the price on real 230$ (even this is too much)! it should now look into piles in front of their doors ! greedy bastards .Processors that should be in the trash because of imperfect operation of the entire processor is locked in part (the part that is defective cutting silicone) and instead of partially cover the cost of production want to do with garbage greasy profit .the sad thing is that we will do this with TITAN X.
So it is when you stand constructional problems in software drivers and this then it bites you in the ass nVidia. However, please note that this lesson will not sobered them up. I want to see fall to the bottom and then they will begin again to respected customers . We live in an age of information and misinformation, and it seems that nVidia is more on the misinformation .Many blindly buy and do not know how many tricks is here ..

This is one of many reasons why I never wanted to use machine translation. It barely makes sense.

Also, I do not understand why you are so angry, if you actually are angry. You did not buy or own the card and does not have to return any card for false advertising. What is with the frustration?

 

[xfia]

from what I can find about tsx is that it was good on paper but still only a marginal programming improvement.
things like that are a choice to be used by programmers so it was nothing missed.
in short.. it happens and will continue too for the sake of progression.
if we reach for nothing then nothing will be gained.

 

[ShurikN]

No one needs to worry about this except fanboys looking for salt to rub. Its a lot of BS for nerds.

So, what happens when a game comes out that actually requires 4GB for (let say) ultra, since we all know that this card will run slower if it uses all memory. And no driver can fix that.
Let me tell you whats gonna happen. NV will release a better spec 970 to cash in more, and of course fuck all over the early adopters.

 

[Patriot]

So, what happens when a game comes out that actually requires 4GB for (let say) ultra, since we all know that this card will run slower if it uses all memory. And no driver can fix that.
Let me tell you whats gonna happen. NV will release a better spec 970 to cash in more, and of course fuck all over the early adopters.

That is the Nvidia way... Thread title is also a bit of a clickbait... 56/64 rops is obviously not perfectly functional... I am tempted to return mine and just wait till March...

 

[Luka KLLP]

So, what happens when a game comes out that actually requires 4GB for (let say) ultra, since we all know that this card will run slower if it uses all memory. And no driver can fix that.
Let me tell you whats gonna happen. NV will release a better spec 970 to cash in more, and of course fuck all over the early adopters.

Early adopters are always fucked over

 

[ChristTheGreat]

GTX 970 is a nice Card whit low power use and a nice performence. I am not returning my two Cards. But this better not ever happen again or i will be returning Cards next time.

this is how i feel about this

http://puu.sh/f69Ef/bed6f1d282.gif

lol, I like the gif

For those who says that people that returns teh card are BS or whatever, well they are not.. nVidia sells a product with false marketing. Event if the card is good or not, it is a false marketing... It is not difficult to understand..

If you are buying a car, that the company says: it does 4L/100, and all the car does 7L/100, sorry but if you keep it like this by doing nothing, you are just stupid. That's what happened to hyundai and Kia, they gave People cash onto a prepaid credit card because of the fuel consumption.. It's better than nothing..

If nVidia would be smart, they would apologize and say that are trying to do a fix (like I don't know, the .5gb could be desktop usage only and full 3.5gb for games) and give the user a game, or something...

 

[I. B.]

MY TEST EVGA 970 SC
As many of you have heard the GTX 970 has gotten a lot of heat because of the memory allocation. It uses 3.5GB and the other 500MB only when it's necessary. This has gotten a lot of buzz and is justified.

 

[xfia]

Im no engineer but the segments cant be accessed at the same time so using it for desktop or cache is not possible without performance hit.

look at the benchmarks of the 780ti and the 970... they just are not that far apart in performance... if they just make the 500mb segment unusable it will fix the performance especially for sli.

 

[yogurt_21]

Did you read the post? merchants and board partners are getting hit with costs, not NVIDIA

That's akin to saying "only the hands got hurt, the head is still fine" well it will be until the hands either can't or simply refuse to feed to head anymore.

Nvidia knows this. There will have to be some kind of compensation for it. Even despite the fact that the cards perform exactly the same now as they did at launch. Consumer panic + EU false advertising laws will come back to bite nvidia.

 

[Patriot]

That's akin to saying "only the hands got hurt, the head is still fine" well it will be until the hands either can't or simply refuse to feed to head anymore.

Nvidia knows this. There will have to be some kind of compensation for it. Even despite the fact that the cards perform exactly the same now as they did at launch. Consumer panic + EU false advertising laws will come back to bite nvidia.

I bought my cards on Amazon ... False advertising is valid return reason.

 

[xfia]

MY TEST EVGA 970 SC
As many of you have heard the GTX 970 has gotten a lot of heat because of the memory allocation. It uses 3.5GB and the other 500MB only when it's necessary. This has gotten a lot of buzz and is justified.

looks likes it was saying please don't do this to me

 

[xorbe]

I suspect the mass returns report is over-blown, a small rush of enthusiasts that will dry up quickly. Hold nVidia's feet to the fire for the deceptive specs, but in reality probably less than 5% are really pushing their card into 3.5+ used. I know I don't make good use of my Titan ...

 

[xfia]

I love asian style art

 

[beardofnails]

Here is one way that all the angry 970 owners could have avoided their frustrations: don't buy 4gb vram cards and expect qhd/uhd resolution performance to be fluid. Learn what the specs mean in relation to usage of the product. I didn't go out and buy a 750ti because I knew I would be playing heavy games at max detail, so I bought the 780. The fact that all these people purchased a mid range card and are griping about it having issues at super resolutions is borderline insanity. And (most of all) the only reason these people are angry is because it was brought to their attention by the press, they would have otherwise not noticed the partitioned ram and would have had to knock their settings down to the appropriate levels for the card (shocking, I know).

 

[xorbe]

I didn't go out and buy a 750ti because I knew I would be playing heavy games at max detail, so I bought the 780.

Mid-range card. Should have bought the 780 Ti.

 

[xfia]

ahh a 970 has no big advantage over your 780.. give it a little overclock and it will be right there most of the time.

the 970 is certainly not mid-range though.. the 780(ti)-970-980-290(x) are all in the same high end performance class that do perfect 1080p gaming. people with 4k rigs hardly understand where graphics technology is at and pay a shit load for something they will soon need to upgrade.

in reality just going by performance and nothing else it would be crazy to buy a 980 and a 290 gives you the best bang for your buck so it was kinda garbage people saying the 970 has the best price to performance ratio.

 

[beardofnails]

people with 4k rigs hardly understand where graphics technology is at and pay a shit load for something they will soon need to upgrade.

This is the point I was trying to illustrate. People who bought the 970 and expected it to be a flagship killer were doing it wrong. A single gpu with 4gb vram IS NOT ENOUGH to play current games smoothly at resolutions over 1080p. You might be able to get away with 1440p in some instances, but I think people were unrealistic in their expectations, and they are blaming their lack of knowledge on nvidia because finger pointing is easier than learning what these things are and how they work.

 

[Dave65]

I'm perfectly happy with my 970 Strix and am going to keep it. All the fuss isn't worth the trouble, since I haven't noticed any problems with performance.

Same here, some people just love to drama things up..

 

[REAYTH]

We're all nerds on this forum, for knowing what a graphics card is. Else we'd be gaming on an Xbox.

Tru dat.

So, what happens when a game comes out that actually requires 4GB for (let say) ultra, since we all know that this card will run slower if it uses all memory. And no driver can fix that.
Let me tell you whats gonna happen. NV will release a better spec 970 to cash in more, and of course fuck all over the early adopters.

By that time the card will be outdated anyway. 4gb or not its not running jack at 4k on ultra.

 

[wickedcricket]

I'm thinking about returning mine and getting a GTX 960. The 970 is good but overkill for me at 1080p but I couldn't wait for the 960 when I wanted to upgrade

Not sure if you are retarded or a troll or actually both.

 

[xfia]

ahh dont be mean.. @El_Mayo your 970 will always be better than 960. if you experience the problem then turn down your settings starting with aa... solved.