Intel "Skylake" to be 6th Generation Core Series, First i7-6700K Benchmarks

[BarbaricSoul]

*pats 3930k system's tower like a puppy's head

Don't worry, your place is still safe

 

[crsh1976]

As noted by other folks here, DDR4 is a perfect example of an unnecessary, over-hyped, option. With DDR3 running at 1600+ MHz. not being a system bottleneck on a discrete CPU powered PC, spending on higher frequency DDR3 or over-priced DDR4 is just throwing good money away. While the DRAM purveyors will love you, you gain almost nothing in desktop PC system performance for your money.

You guessed it, hardware manufacturers are out of real improvement ideas to sell us new stuff - Intel suffers from a better-than-expected return on all those great Core chips since Nehalem.

I'm still on a Sandy Bridge i7-2600 and I have little reason to upgrade eventhough I'll be 3 generations behind when Skylake comes out. A faster SSD and a newer video card give me the boost I need, a new processor barely makes any difference in real-life usage.

 

[Uplink10]

interesting.. i really dont see the need for DDR4 though..

You are absolutely right, DDR4 default clock should be at least 2800 MHz. But they want you to buy DDR4 so you would not use older RAM which is perfectly fine and spend money on new one.

If it wasn't for the chipset (NVMe system drive is damn tempting)

I also hope 100 series chipst will have USB 3.1 support and performance of NVMe depends on Microsoft NVMe driver (if you are running Windows) and the last time I read article on Anandtech that driver made SSD slower than AHCI driver.

Some games running with directX 11 are going to have patches in order to be compatible and run with directx12

Publishers will not order developers to make DX12 patches because that would mean a loss in profits because they do not gain anything by it (expect consumer appreciation which does not translate into money) and graphic cards sale would also slow down and that does not help anyone except consumers.

 

[RejZoR]

Boring. I'm interested in Skylake with the DRAM integrated into the die. Probably the E models that will come sometime after these mainstream ones I guess...

 

[RealNeil]

Skylake will probably not land in my house at all.

My i7-2600K will go to my wife soon, and her i7-870 will retire to Linux-Land.
There is an FX-9590 system here, and an i7-5930K CPU on the way in a month for an upcoming build.
I already have an i7-4790K and i5-4690K here, so there is no need for Skylake.

I'll probably get rid of the 9950 or the 4690, or maybe both.

 

[MikeMurphy]

As noted by other folks here, DDR4 is a perfect example of an unnecessary, over-hyped, option. With DDR3 running at 1600+ MHz. not being a system bottleneck on a discrete CPU powered PC, spending on higher frequency DDR3 or over-priced DDR4 is just throwing good money away. While the DRAM purveyors will love you, you gain almost nothing in desktop PC system performance for your money.

A technically educated consumer can make an informed purchasing decision and skip the hype.

If you call an upgrade path "hype" then sure, go ahead and buy something on the verge of obsolescence.

Some of us prefer to plan ahead.

 

[Antykain]

I'll be grabbing one of these when they are released.. Not to upgrade or replace my 4790k, cuz well.. that would be kinda pointless really. But I am building another intel rig for the house/family and the timing of the the Skylake's release might fall into the same time frame I plan on building the new rig. We'll see I guess..

 

[Naito]

Really? A 20% performance increase is worth hundreds of dollars? lol

It ain't for the CPU performance. However, an extra 15%, whether it's needed or not, isn't bad for the same clock rate. As I've stated several times, a newer chipset would allow me to run more drives off the native SATA 3.0 interfaces and provide me with the option to boot NVMe drives. Besides, I wouldn't mind downsizing to something a bit smaller and quieter.

EDIT: Isn't that 15% over the Haswell/Broadwell figures? Add that to the small jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell, and you're probably looking at ~20% in some areas. Gaming-wise that's probably nothing, if not a few frames. But as an enthusiast...

EDIT 2: Fixed figures according to article.

 

[Frick]

Booohhoooring.

 

[Captain_Tom]

It ain't for the CPU performance. However, an extra 15%, whether it's needed or not, isn't bad for the same clock rate. As I've stated several times, a newer chipset would allow me to run more drives off the native SATA 3.0 interfaces and provide me with the option to boot NVMe drives. Besides, I wouldn't mind downsizing to something a bit smaller and quieter.

EDIT: Isn't that 15% over the Haswell/Broadwell figures? Add that to the small jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell, and you're probably looking at ~20% in some areas. Gaming-wise that's probably nothing, if not a few frames. But as an enthusiast...

EDIT 2: Fixed figures according to article.

Dude I am totally an enthusiast, and I never upgrade GPU's unless it is 2-4 times stronger than my current one. And I will apply that same logic to my CPU upgrade path (If not more since you need a new motherboard and RAM for a new CPU)...

 

[deemon]

I would much rather see a 6-core i7 without any integrated useless GPU. Truly dissapointed in Intel... for 4th year in a row. USELESS "upgrade"!

 

[Prima.Vera]

Unless they make their 8 core CPU as the current mainstream series, not interested on this. New RAM + mobo = waste of money.

 

[Captain_Tom]

I would much rather see a 6-core i7 without any integrated useless GPU. Truly dissapointed in Intel... for 4th year in a row. USELESS "upgrade"!

If AMD's Zen can get its IPC at or above Sandy Bridge levels while providing 8 cores in a 95w package Intel will have no choice but to do exactly what you (And me) want. Pray they do!

 

[ensabrenoir]

.....starting to wonder about some of these posts......intel dosent make cpu's that are designed for yearly upgrades....you can if you want but honestly there should be a two to three+ year gap. having a mainstream 6+ core cpu will make the HEDT line pointless. What many are asking is for Intel to do an AMD and just give away their profits with a bunch of bad business decisions.

 

[rtwjunkie]

.....starting to wonder about some of these posts......intel dosent make cpu's that are designed for yearly upgrades

Actually, I think that's exactly what Intel does. The vast majority of users have absolutely ZERO clue. They don't know that the total difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake is 15-20% of performance MAX, and that in games it might be 2-5%. But Intel hopes people buy!

You're thinking like one of the informed people on this forum.

 

[bubbleawsome]

the last worthwhile upgrade I made was i7 870 -> i5 4670k. At 4.3Ghz that should last me a while, but I could see myself jumping to a 6700k or maybe one gen later because I could use an i7 and it might as well be modern.

 

[ensabrenoir]

the last worthwhile upgrade I made was i7 870 -> i5 4670k. At 4.3Ghz that should last me a while, but I could see myself jumping to a 6700k or maybe one gen later because I could use an i7 and it might as well be modern.

Went from an i7-860 to an i7- 3820..... ended up selling the 3820. Although it was faster and all.....just didn't move me much. Just got a 4790k, that will do until i go 8 core. Wifey got an i5-4570, started to build an Fm2+ for my son until intel dropped that G3258....which was prob the most fun cpu i had in quite a while. That old i7-860 is in an itx build that is still chewing through everything i throw at it.

 

[Dust]

In other words, if you're still on Sandybridge and don't need a beefcake iGPU and DDR4 (nobody really needs DDR4), you're welcome to skip this generation too. It doesn't even tick the power saving box. Gaming performance improvements are miniscule.

Only reason I can see for me to upgrade is for NVMe M6e m.2 drives.

lol, It is hilarious that people still say stuff like this. I remember when a kid in my class was talking about his dad's computer and the size of his HDD came up. "One Gig", is what he said while everyone's eyes lit up. Man that is totally all the storage you need. This will have not have any real value to anyone.

 

[rtwjunkie]

lol, It is hilarious that people still say stuff like this. I remember when a kid in my class was talking about his dad's computer and the size of his HDD came up. "One Gig", is what he said while everyone's eyes lit up. Man that is totally all the storage you need. This will have not have any real value to anyone.

Welcome to TPU.

You might be interested to know that we have ALOT of members still on SB or IVB, and others that have done each level of upgrade. The overwhelming consensus of this forum is that on the CPU front, nearly zero advance has been made to improve gaming performance. Perhaps in some other processor-oriented tasks, but not gaming. That is why the reaction here is a yawn-fest. It is still perfectly valid to keep a SB system for gaming, and even alot of other tasks.

 

[Frick]

lol, It is hilarious that people still say stuff like this. I remember when a kid in my class was talking about his dad's computer and the size of his HDD came up. "One Gig", is what he said while everyone's eyes lit up. Man that is totally all the storage you need. This will have not have any real value to anyone.

But it's true.

 

[flexy]

Am I the only one getting "sleepy" looking at those numbers? I really thought Skylake would be the next best Ubersystem, but looking at those numbers it just tells me that my overclocked i7 (4.4G) system and my DDR-3-2000 would last me an even longer time that I thought. And I initially bought this system second-hand to "tie me over". For that? 3% or so performance increase? The MORE interesting questions here (now for "enthusiasts" would be A) thermals of Skylake (we all know how incredibly hot Haswell gets) and then of course (related to this) B) overclocking potential. It is my understanding they moved voltage regulators away from the Skylake die...and then the dreaded "CPU/thermal paste gap problem w/ Haswell"...in other words, Skylake would THEN become interesting if it turns out it overclocks 5GHZ or more....otherwise I am not exactly impressed.

Edit: And yes, you all, you too, should get Skylake as soon as it comes out (like the guys who immediately 'upgraded' to Devil's Canyon...lol) ... why? Because it means many of you will sell their "old" systems cheaply again..which is always great...and of course it boost our economy too

 

[flexy]

lol, It is hilarious that people still say stuff like this. I remember when a kid in my class was talking about his dad's computer and the size of his HDD came up. "One Gig", is what he said while everyone's eyes lit up. Man that is totally all the storage you need. This will have not have any real value to anyone.

I always love those comparisons My first HD ever was 40MB as far as I remember. Today, a graphics DRIVER alone, for one single component, comes in a 300MB archive. Means you would need 8 HDs just to download/store this single driver file...say...16 HDs total to store the driver .ZIP file and then to extract it. If someone would have told me that in 1990 or so I would called him crazy.

 

[RealNeil]

My first hard drive was a Seagate RLL that was a whopping 5MB. (huge)

It looked like this,

 

[RCoon]

My first hard drive was a Seagate RLL that was a whopping 5MB. (huge)

It looked like this,

View attachment 64507

Please stay on topic guys.

That however is pretty freaking awesome

 

[ypsylon]

It's NOT 6th generation. It's 6th REFRESH.

It's same Core architecture we know from 2006 or so. Because AMD are nowhere (except producing beautiful slides) to be found, Intel can do nothing and offer minor tweaks instead offering real progress - like moving from P4 to C2D and then i7 920. That's generational sift. 1151/1150/1155/6 damn so many numbers... all the same inside.