Guide: Turn your Killer E2200 NIC into Qualcomm Atheros AR8161

[Shou Miko]

Hi i found this thread after searching a lot on google

i have this nic killer e2200 PCI-E in my laptop msi - GT60 -ONC. from the time i owned this laptop i have been using wifi. i recently started using the lan port on it and whenever i would use lan my ADSL router would disconnect from the internet(found out recently). after doing some more research and google i found out that it might be because of the killer NIC and not my isp because when i am online on my ipad or nexus i never get disconnected from the internet.

from what i have found out is my nic is Killer e2200 Gigabyte Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20) #4

on the front page it displays (NDIS 6.30 ) so is it ok if i follow the steps in page 1 or do i have to do something else?

u just use an older driver, it should work, bcs chip is still the same

 

[Marsmillo]

Made a account to say: Thanks for the information.
Had some issues with the Killer E2200 on my motherboard, especially the software / driver combo and windows 8.1.

To be honest, the newer (February 2015) version of the Killer software / driver did manage to fix it for me.
But nevertheless the information here is handy to know.

Also www.qca.qualcomm.com/resources/driverdownloads/ don't seem to exist any more (at the moment).
But the internet archive has the site archived December 20, 2014 with the downloads intact.

Go to https://web.archive.org/web/20141220022603/http://www.qca.qualcomm.com/resources/driverdownloads/
and download the needed drivers. You also find the Killer cleaner (32bit and 64bit) tool there.

Back them up, before the go lost!

 

[Shou Miko]

Thx Marsmillo, i decided to add the KillerCleaner to my first post, hosting them on my google drive, maybe W1zzard will upload them to TPU so they would be better to download, but that's truely up to him ^^

 

[untoreh]

zip the cleaner on gdrive, it gets recognized as a virus and cant be downloaded, also thanks for the chipset version, the freaking drivers with the traffic shaping service in the install bundle fuck them and all that shit, if I want traffic shaping im gonna use cfos, which btw is also rebranded by asus as gamefirsts which is basically an outdated version of cfosspeed with less customizations...it is so sad that to get a decent motherboard we need to endure all this marketing bloat load bullshit

 

[Shou Miko]

zip the cleaner on gdrive, it gets recognized as a virus and cant be downloaded, also thanks for the chipset version, the freaking drivers with the traffic shaping service in the install bundle fuck them and all that shit, if I want traffic shaping im gonna use cfos, which btw is also rebranded by asus as gamefirsts which is basically an outdated version of cfosspeed with less customizations...it is so sad that to get a decent motherboard we need to endure all this marketing bloat load bullshit

the cleaners are raw exe files not zip files and i don't see that so dunno if it's just ur anti-virus that bugs u.

Asus' GameFirst works on Intel branded NIC chips so it's a little different but works like it and better.

 

[Lopez0101]

the cleaners are raw exe files not zip files and i don't see that so dunno if it's just ur anti-virus that bugs u.

Asus' GameFirst works on Intel branded NIC chips so it's a little different but works like it and better.

Actually, Google Drive won't let those Killer Cleaner links works, says they contain a virus and won't allow anybody but the uploader to download them.

 

[Shou Miko]

Actually, Google Drive won't let those Killer Cleaner links works, says they contain a virus and won't allow anybody but the uploader to download them.

I will just put them on my own website then, if W1zzard won't host them here on TPU

 

[Lopez0101]

Well, I tried to update my Killer drivers through MSI Live Update. When I ran the installer it told me to uninstall the current installation. Well, I tried and somehow it got messed up. So every time I restarted it would pop-up that it needs to restart to install. That does nothing, pops up every restart. Tried Killer Cleaner, that didn't do anything. Uninstalled Live Update, did nothing. Went into device manager and deleted it through that. Did nothing, still got the pop-up. So I deleted the "ethernet controller" and that got rid of the popup, but trying to install and it still thinks the old driver is there. Cleaned the registry, deleted all the Atheros folders manually. No dice. As of right now I have no ethernet. Trying to get windows to search the internet for drivers doesn't do anything either.

Any ideas on how to get the installer to think the old drive no longer exists?

 

[Shou Miko]

Well, I tried to update my Killer drivers through MSI Live Update. When I ran the installer it told me to uninstall the current installation. Well, I tried and somehow it got messed up. So every time I restarted it would pop-up that it needs to restart to install. That does nothing, pops up every restart. Tried Killer Cleaner, that didn't do anything. Uninstalled Live Update, did nothing. Went into device manager and deleted it through that. Did nothing, still got the pop-up. So I deleted the "ethernet controller" and that got rid of the popup, but trying to install and it still thinks the old driver is there. Cleaned the registry, deleted all the Atheros folders manually. No dice. As of right now I have no ethernet. Trying to get windows to search the internet for drivers doesn't do anything either.

Any ideas on how to get the installer to think the old drive no longer exists?

Check with CCleaner what it findes in Registery, i guess u have some leftovers from it somewhere...

 

[Lopez0101]

Yeah, ran that already. Kind of at a loss.

 

[Shou Miko]

Yeah, ran that already. Kind of at a loss.

hmm, i always use a program like Your Uninstaller when i uninstall things to get rid of leftovers in windows registery to avoid problems like u got not Lopez0101.

could you try to reinstall the previous driver u was using? bcs my hide is Windows Device manager only, no exe.

 

[wood]

hallo
i appreciate the help you are giving here, unfortunately its not working in my case. got a msi gaming 5 mobo with the e2200 killer wich is literally killing me, i tried everything out there, and now also your method but im still getting those short network disconnects, no matter what i do. and its not a router or network problem, all is wired and working perfectly on my laptop.
got any other suggestion maybe that i could try out?
the only option i see right now is buying a ethernet cotroller for the pci slot.

 

[Shou Miko]

hallo
i appreciate the help you are giving here, unfortunately its not working in my case. got a msi gaming 5 mobo with the e2200 killer wich is literally killing me, i tried everything out there, and now also your method but im still getting those short network disconnects, no matter what i do. and its not a router or network problem, all is wired and working perfectly on my laptop.
got any other suggestion maybe that i could try out?
the only option i see right now is buying a ethernet cotroller for the pci slot.

could be a bad board or bios, have u tried upgrading ur bios?

and srsly u can't put a pci card ethernet card into ur board it only got 3x PCI-E x16 and 4x PCI-E x1 slots

But if u decide to go for a dedicate nic look for an Intel it's the once i will recommand any day over some cheap one using a Realtek or Atheros chip.

u can get a Intel EXPI9301CTBLK for like 38 bucks on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1XA5402

or if u want the new I210 series it starts from 67bucks up to 69bucks...

Intel I210T1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106176
Intel I210 (Server): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106178

 

[wood]

thx for the fast replay.
there are so many people having issues with this killer lan, and a lot gave up as far as i can tell.
bios is up to date but i could give it a try anyway, cant hurt before buying a pic-e card in that case
i thought of a cheaper one around 10 bucks on amazon, good ratings, my internet isnt fast anyway.

 

[Jetster]

I have had no issues

 

[spylala]

Thank you so much for this Guide. I tried out so many things to get my dota 2 to work. It always crashed when i hit the button "search game". I told myself to create an account on this page and say thanks if this one worked. Now i did so!

Thank you so much again.

 

[Shou Miko]

Thank you so much for this Guide. I tried out so many things to get my dota 2 to work. It always crashed when i hit the button "search game". I told myself to create an account on this page and say thanks if this one worked. Now i did so!

Thank you so much again.

It's always nice to hear a respons if it works for ppl or not ^^

 

[wood]

for everyone who is still looking for a solution and might have similar conditions like i do. i'm connected via a powerline adapter and a 100m cable, whatever i tried, it didnt work, kept loosing connection.
by chance i found out, if i put an ethernet hub just before the killer everything works perfectly fine.

 

[mtrai]

for everyone who is still looking for a solution and might have similar conditions like i do. i'm connected via a powerline adapter and a 100m cable, whatever i tried, it didnt work, kept loosing connection.
by chance i found out, if i put an ethernet hub just before the killer everything works perfectly fine.

Killer Networkign recently posted stand alone drivers as well as a new killer suite.

http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

 

[Apogee]

for everyone who is still looking for a solution and might have similar conditions like i do. i'm connected via a powerline adapter and a 100m cable, whatever i tried, it didnt work, kept loosing connection.
by chance i found out, if i put an ethernet hub just before the killer everything works perfectly fine.

I just wanted to hop in and thank the OP and to respond to this. I'm trying this now, and I'll update if it fixes my issue. I have a Gigabyte Sniper M5 and since I re-installed windows and "upgraded" to the newer drivers, this NIC has given me nothing but problems. I have excellent speed but frequent disconnects when online gaming or streaming music. I've been trying everything to get this worked out. I'll try the hub if I have to, thanks again.

 

[Shou Miko]

Change the typo ffs. It's "Atheros" not "athero". You have it like that for months. You get a lot of google hits here because of that model name but you seem to be clueless.

You must feel so proud for this thread. You shouldn't be.

typo's are free, so take them or leave it, can't change topic anyway, a mod or W1zzard has to do that.

 

[RCoon]

Change the typo ffs. It's "Atheros" not "athero". You have it like that for months. You get a lot of google hits here because of that model name but you seem to be clueless.

You must feel so proud for this thread. You shouldn't be.

How about you just say:

"You have a typo in the OP, it should be "Atheros", not "Athero", then google results for people with the issue would be more accurate"

Instead of being such an ungrateful rude human being. This is your first warning for your first post. This thread was put up for the good of those who use it, and so far you've done nothing but berate and show yourself to be anything but pleasant. Continue on that line of behaviour and you'll be receiving moderator brownie points.

typo's are free, so take them or leave it, can't change topic anyway, a mod or W1zzard has to do that.

I'll have it sorted for you.

 

[redeye]

... The post i was referring to has been dealt with... ].
BTW, my original post is in the new post #99.. And the original post 99 is no longer with us...

and because of that it no longer makes sense, actually it sounds like i am criticizing the OP by saying "pointless"... Am i not, i was pointing out that the now "dead" post was wrong.

Actually puma99dk|'s post is the best description of installing a driver "the hard way" that i have read.

 

[mtrai]

no, this method is not "absolutely worthless" because you will/can use it to install drivers the "direct" way.

pointless is a better word...
but my advice is "absolutely worthless" because IMO post #99 is "absolutely worthless"... lol...
But yet again, pointless would be a better description. #completewasteofasciicharacters




Enough with the "ad hom" attacks!...

So where is the proper driver package that you use?...

THAT could have been useful information

We no longer need to do this method. Killer/Atheros has a new website for downloads which also includes just a driver download finally without the network manager.

And yes thanks to the OP for this as I used it for a long a time.

http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

 

[Shou Miko]

We no longer need to do this method. Killer/Atheros has a new website for downloads which also includes just a driver download finally without the network manager.

And yes thanks to the OP for this as I used it for a long a time.

http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

the problem was the killer driver for some ppl, not everyone had trouble with the software, that's what i experienced myself.