Is it time for Windows 10 already?

[Pill Monster]

Hmm OK,... maybe they were wddm 1.1 compatible or something. No need for screenshots I'll take you word for it.. I'm testing W10 atm so may look into that for curiosity.....

btw MS have stated a new policy with W10 where any drivers not certified cannot be installed. Apparently dev signing (flight signing) will works during pre-release but it won't after rtm. That's what they've said, whether it happens or someone finds a workaround is another story........

We had some issues over at Guru with Asders modded W10 drivers, they only installed if test signing was enabled.
FunkyMike, Asder @ Me started looking at the Catalyst dll's but then ofc I got banned (again) so that all turned to custard.......lol

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I hope I can register some other way... because I hate automatic updates. I want an ISO download and clean install, as well.

My only question is if we can do a clean install or not. For my gaming rig, I want to format and do full OS install.

This

No can do unless you shell out the money for a System Builder license at minimum. Upgrade license requires the existing installation of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1.

 

[Caring1]

No can do unless you shell out the money for a System Builder license at minimum. Upgrade license requires the existing installation of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1.

The install key for 8.1 resides in the BIOS so a clean install can be done, but don't take my word for it Google it. (I know you will)
To save a bit of time, I found this: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ndows-10/aef0ae63-2117-41ee-a8ea-4a3181625b08

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Yeah I got that popup too on my W7, even though I have Action Center notifications set to hide and updates set to DL but let me choose.

I've been reading that MS is allowing users of both genuine and non genuine copies of 7 and 8 to get free 10 upgrades, apparently to soften up relations with China, whom pirate Windows a lot.

I found it amusing though that MS warn that 10 will not be a genuine copy if upgraded to from a pirated copy, becasue for some time people have been using pirated copies of Windows that activate, show as genuine in the system info, and have no trouble updating.

I guess to MS, DRM means Don't Ring Me, meaning no phone support. However I'm sure there are even people with pirated copies that get help from them without their knowing it.

It will be a little while longer before W10 is final though. It won't officially go on sale until 8/31. Honestly, I'm not in a big hurry for W10 until Dx12 games come out, and I'm SO glad I didn't waste money on W8, esp since you can get the free upgrade on W7 too.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Was sitting here surfing TPU and I noticed something pop up by the time and date.
Seems I am being prompted to take on Windows 10 through my Windows 7 OS.

Anyone else seeing this yet?
Of course it seems this just reserves a copy, but I wonder if it is even worth bothering to pre-register for it, when it is supposedly free when it does go RTM.

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Yes , had mine 1 hour ago.

As soon as i put mine on auto install POP, so i guess it's going bug people until you do upgrade ?.

nothing of the sort for me (win 7 Pro X64)

I've been reading that MS is allowing users of both genuine and non genuine copies of 7 and 8 to get free 10 upgrades.

nope they won't, well for the non genuine. (recent news tell the opposite, recent ... i don't remember when i saw that but it was a "no, pirate copy will not get a free W10 update.")

 

[R-T-B]

No can do unless you shell out the money for a System Builder license at minimum. Upgrade license requires the existing installation of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1.

I don't care about requiring the existing installation, in the past it has still been possible to do a CLEAN INSTALL. That's the biggie.

I'll load WIndows ME on there if it's needed as long as the "Format" button is enabled during the install, lol.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

It will only bug you if you let it. There's a setting for it in Notifications and Icons.

 

[Caring1]

I have my Windows Update set to notify, and the notification wasn't there this morning for me, when it was first mentioned on this forum, but is now.
I'm going to try W10 on my AMD laptop with the slow APU and see if there are any performance improvements.
My Intel desktop can wait, it runs fine.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I have my Windows Update set to notify, and the notification wasn't there this morning for me, when it was first mentioned on this forum, but is now.
I'm going to try W10 on my AMD laptop with the slow APU and see if there are any performance improvements.
My Intel desktop can wait, it runs fine.

i was using the TP on my Athlon 5350 build ... either on IGP and with a GT730, well both were smooth for regular HTPC/multimedia task

 

[Shou Miko]

this note came on my working laptop about an hour ago when i booted it up for work

but i already have dual boot Win8.1 Pro and Win10 so not gonna update my working one to Win10.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I don't care about requiring the existing installation, in the past it has still been possible to do a CLEAN INSTALL. That's the biggie.

Not an option unless you lay down money.

 

[R-T-B]

Not an option unless you lay down money.

Is this confirmed?

It hasn't been that way for Windows 8, as far as I can tell. They always offer you the option for clean install. I used several student upgrade serials that way and even the downloadable installer let you burn ISO media...

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Just curious, why was this posted in General Hardware? I don't recall OP ever putting it the context of is my sys spec good enough for W10

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Is this confirmed?

Source:

This upgrade will be free, and will be delivered exclusively through Windows Update.

Can't get to Windows Update (GWX) without Windows already installed. I believe GWX operates off the Windows 7/8.1 key and does not generate a new one for Windows 10; therefore, there is nothing to even input into Windows 10 activator should you do a clean install. It simply isn't permitted.

It hasn't been that way for Windows 8, as far as I can tell. They always offer you the option for clean install. I used several student upgrade serials that way and even the downloadable installer let you burn ISO media...

Those are OEM System Builder licenses. So long as the motherboard works, the operating system can be reinstalled indefinite number of times from any install medium. We're talking about a special Windows 10 upgrade license.

 

[R-T-B]

Hmmm... That does make sense. It also goes with their "Windows as a service" phrase they keep touting. That, and the fact that reading the legalese, there's this nice little tidbit:

Our lawyers made us say this:

Windows 10 Upgrade Offer is valid for qualified Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 devices, including devices you already own. Some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device and market. The availability of Windows 10 upgrade for Windows Phone 8.1 devices may vary by OEM, mobile operator or carrier. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer. To check for compatibility and other important installation information, visit your device manufacturer’s website and the Windows 10 Specifications page. Additional requirements may apply over time for updates. Security and features are kept automatically up-to-date which is always enabled.

Bolded part most interesting.

So, I'm thinking Windows update is now mandatory... and you won't be able to adjust it later as in previous versions of windows. Sad. I feel safer choosing an update "day of the week" and processing all my updates then...

This isn't to my liking, but I can live with it... barely. I feel sort of like microsoft is testing how far it can push us before we won't upgrade at all...

I'll probably just do a fresh install of Windows 8, make it nice and neat and have no frills, and do the upgrade. It will be basically the same as a fresh install, even if it feels wrong...

I just hope I'm not jumping into a trap of some kind...

Those are OEM System Builder licenses. So long as the motherboard works, the operating system can be reinstalled indefinite number of times from any install medium. We're talking about a special Windows 10 upgrade license.

You're trying to tell me my student upgrade licenses bought from the Microsoft store were intended for system builders?

Lolz, I kid of course. This may be the new policy, but it wasn't the old one for sure...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I see it more as a response to the world we live in today. The best way to stop a worm/virus like CryptoLocker and Sasser is to get a fix made quick and push it out to everyone. I don't mind at all so long as every little update doesn't require restarting the computer. The most annoying thing about Windows 7 is when you install updates and the OS freakin nags you to restart until you do. That includes minimizing full screen software. Windows 8 and newer, I believe, install it automatically and notifies you that restarting is required but it doesn't nag; however, it does give you an ultimatum if you decline: your computer is going to restart within a day. That's better than Windows 7 but it still rubs me wrong for obvious reasons.

 

[R-T-B]

I agree about the reboots thing... it's annoying...

If we are lucky, it will be like it is in the TP: Forced on, but a knowledgeable power user can turn it off in the registry. You pretty much have to be a power user in the first place to get to that point, so I don't see any reason they would force that off.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

You're trying to tell me my student upgrade licenses bought from the Microsoft store were intended for system builders?

Lolz, I kid of course. This may be the new policy, but it wasn't the old one for sure...

Microsoft has always been very lenient towards students. Mac OS X growth has generally always come from the 16-28 demographic and once they have been sucked in to the Apple market, they rarely leave because its too costly.

 

[Caring1]

I'll probably just do a fresh install of Windows 8, make it nice and neat and have no frills, and do the upgrade.

Make sure it is W8.1 as the upgrade is not possible from W8.
Feel free to ignore if you want to try.

 

[R-T-B]

Make sure it is W8.1 as the upgrade is not possible from W8.
Feel free to ignore if you want to try.

That's what I meant... hehe.

 

[Pill Monster]

That's what I meant... hehe.

If you have 8.1 Pro your upgrade will be Windows 10 Pro, the student license doesn't matter.

W10 goes RTM on June 29th, the free offer is valid 1 year from that date and yes you can install it from USB or whatever u want. Even the nightly updates we get can be converted from esd. to ISO.

Automatic Updates can be disabled in the test builds, but a few phone home services cant.....with Active Directory included u can do pretty much whatever u like tho.... so yeah...... Anyway hope that helps.

 

[R-T-B]

Hope you're right, but I guess we won't really know until Microsoft officially makes a statement, or launch.

Thanks.

 

[Pill Monster]

Hope you're right, but I guess we won't really know until Microsoft officially makes a statement, or launch.

Thanks.

I'm one of the testers.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

July 29th is release day http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/01/hello-world-windows-10-available-on-july-29/

IDK where Pill Monster got june 29th, but its right there from MS themselves JULY 29th

 

[Pill Monster]

July 29th is release day http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/01/hello-world-windows-10-available-on-july-29/

Yeah July 29th not June 29th . /facepalm to self