Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[qubit]

Don't count on it. Fast startup has been around since Windows 8 and never works well for me.

It can be turned off from control panel power options, to be fair.

Yeah sure, different hardware will give different results and sometimes it's caused by chipset or mobo faults, but it can be hard to pin it down so it sounds like you're unlucky there.

My current 2700K system has a bug in it where it will blue screen at startup sometimes with W7, but always works fine when waking from sleep, which is the opposite of what you'd expect. Never quite been able to get it out of it since I built it in 2011 regardless of chipset driver updates, video driver updates, other driver updates and OS updates, so I suspect that there might be a hardware or BIOS issue there. It's annoying and hopefully my next system will work properly.

The E8500 system it replaced however was the opposite with W7: startup always ok, but waking from sleep tended to be iffy, often getting stuck with fans spinning, but a blank screen - could only get out of it with a hardware reset. Of course, the underlying OS and drivers have been patched many times between the two system so it's not quite a like for like comparison, but it still gives a rough idea.

 

[R-T-B]

See, my experience is totally different. Fast startup works great on two W8.1 machines, but locks up in W10.

I have found it's usually a not-so-well coded driver issue. If all your drivers are good AND the stars align, it will work perfectly.

If anything is amiss, it'll be a PITA.

The immaturity of W10 drivers is probably the issue here.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure I know what driver is causing me issues with it, but I can't be assed to turn it back on, even if I magically could update my aging/unsupported video capture cards drivers.

 

[AsRock]

Well been back on Win7 for a while now which i thought i would wait about posting this but anyways.

While using Win10 i noticed though 2 of my SSD's which both are the Corsair GT drives were putting out Raw Error Rate contentiously when they were in use, now it's been about a week now on Win7 and they have not done it again.

I am not talking about odd errors i am on about millions of error which the highest i noticed was 230 million of them. But ever since going back to Win7 it's not happened a single time on either drive.

Maybe it just a software issue cannot really tell but it surly gone now, the other 2 SSD's and 2 HDD's had no such issue.

 

[Drone]

Any machine that can run 7 can run 10 so I don't see a point in staying on win7. But then again if you're worried about tracking stuff and telemetry you can use Linux.

 

[Jborg]

Any machine that can run 7 can run 10 so I don't see a point in staying on win7. But then again if you're worried about tracking stuff and telemetry you can use Linux.

I have not even considered "upgrading" to 10 yet.... Still using Windows 7.... If its not broken, then don't fix it.

Once DX12 is actually out and games are using it, then I might consider.... Not for a hot minute though.... So at the moment, Windows 7 is working perfectly.

 

[Ahhzz]

Any machine that can run 7 can run 10 so I don't see a point in staying on win7. But then again if you're worried about tracking stuff and telemetry you can use Linux.

any machine that can run 10 can run 7 so I don't see a point in moving to win10.

 

[AsRock]

Any machine that can run 7 can run 10 so I don't see a point in staying on win7. But then again if you're worried about tracking stuff and telemetry you can use Linux.

That's not true, but i guess that depends on how you define running.

 

[Drone]

That's not true, but i guess that depends on how you define running.

Orly? Now you will say that w10 needs more resources? Whateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever

 

[AsRock]

Orly? Now you will say that w10 needs more resources? Whateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever

No not at all, win10 has teething issue's and should of not been released at it's current stat. The OS is good but it's been pushed out on people which some now will have no option to put up with as going back to there old OS will not be a option.

Although the OS should improve over time at a faster rate due to being free just that everyone ones a lab rat right now.

I uninstalled it on 3 systems as i was not as happy with the performance for one reason or another, even took it of my X68 setup which had vista on it and it's much better with Vista than Win10 so.

Because it ran to your satisfaction don't mean it did for everyone else.

What the hell anyways got until next year and will try it then hopefully shit be much more in order.

 

[qubit]

No not at all, win10 has teething issue's and should of not been released at it's current stat. The OS is good but it's been pushed out on people which some now will have no option to put up with as going back to there old OS will not be a option.

Although the OS should improve over time at a faster rate due to being free just that everyone ones a lab rat right now.

I uninstalled it on 3 systems as i was not as happy with the performance for one reason or another, even took it of my X68 setup which had vista on it and it's much better with Vista than Win10 so.

Because it ran to your satisfaction don't mean it did for everyone else.

What the hell anyways got until next year and will try it then hopefully shit be much more in order.

It gets me how something that's been so extensively tested and developed before release still runs like an advanced beta.

 

[AsRock]

It gets me how something that's been so extensively tested and developed before release still runs like an advanced beta.

Indeed, i am hoping that people get MS to add parental controls to it without the need of a child having to have a email account to login. Of course there are parents that don't care about this but i bet more actually are.

And i surly don't want it for our 11 year old, and what if you don't even allow say your 5 year old online as the chances are you don't and what if the system that the 5 year old is using is not online due to the fact of being a minor.

 

[Bansaku]

Use for what? Medical stuff sure, but for table tennis not so much.

I think he meant it's just wrong on numerous levels.

 

[Bansaku]

Unless you have an antiquated piece of legacy hardware that you simply NEED to use, then by all means hold off. However, for anyone with a modern system with an iSeries CPU should upgrade. So far out of all the systems I manage that I have upgraded for friends ranging from first gen iSeries to the latest CPU, even one with an old HD5460 and Athlon AMD CPU, two were still running W7, NONE have reported any issues, snags, or hiccups. Despite my insistence and their hesitance, they are all happy with the upgrade. So am I.

Besides, it's free! Why hold out?

 

[tabascosauz]

Does anyone like Windows 7 just for the unified design language alone? One thing that really bugs me about 10 is that the two-worlds (tablet + desktop) system persists from Windows 8.1. In 8, everyone complained about Tablet UI on a desktop, so MS hastily put W7's design elements in alongside it in 8.1.

It's so redundant having two ways to go to the About this Computer page, for example. You know, the one that lists your CPU, RAM and Windows activation status. So there's Control Panel...but there's also this new settings place? Why couldn't we just ditch the 2nd one and give Control Panel a facelift so that it has a design in line with the rest of Win 10? We all win: the refuseniks get Control Panel and the Metro fans get the updated look. That way we don't have to look in two places just to change a setting.

Windows 10 is Windows 8.1 with a semi-creative start menu, some CPU optimizations and DX12 support. It's fast, as was 8.1, but some parts of it are still very stupid.

 

[fullinfusion]

Windows 10 blowa azz imo... I played with it for 28 says and went back to W7 just so I wouldnt loose my Key..

In months I may try again but not likely.

 

[AsRock]

Windows 10 blowa azz imo... I played with it for 28 says and went back to W7 just so I wouldnt loose my Key..

In months I may try again but not likely.

Might want to be careful you may reinstall win10 again and lose your win7 in 2 days, unless you know some thing i don't know. Not sure if it resets.

 

[tabascosauz]

I used to worry about how Windows 10 might take matters into its own hands and screw with my drivers. Then, I encountered 10.10 Yosemite and 10.11 El Capitan public beta and was immediately grateful for the ease of use with which Windows blesses us.

In all seriousness, I've had absolutely 0 luck with my D7000 in Windows 10. Nikon apparently doesn't care either. All of my PCs have completely lost interest in connecting properly to the DSLR after upgrading to 10; the camera is recognised but the sub folders on the SD card are empty. OS X always works just fine. It sucks, since my camera and Radeon cards work OOB on OS X but both are a very rocky experience with Windows 10.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The only thing that happens after 30 days is the old Windows 7 files are deleted. You can still uninstall Windows 10 and reinstall Windows 7 from the original media after 30 days are up. You'll only encounter problems with activation if the hardware between the two is radically different (i.e. you should own two separate copies of the OS).

In all seriousness, I've had absolutely 0 luck with my D7000 in Windows 10. Nikon apparently doesn't care either. All of my PCs have completely lost interest in connecting properly to the DSLR after upgrading to 10; the camera is recognised but the sub folders on the SD card are empty. OS X always works just fine. It sucks, since my camera and Radeon cards work OOB on OS X but both are a very rocky experience with Windows 10.

KB3081444 supposedly fixed that. Make sure Windows is up to date.

 

[fullinfusion]

Might want to be careful you may reinstall win10 again and lose your win7 in 2 days, unless you know some thing i don't know. Not sure if it resets.

No im not sure tbh, I only did it because W10 still has to many glitches with YouTube and Edge and such.

I have a year so Ill wait it out till M$ get there crap together....

and then yes Ill re-install it.. but till then I'm glad i saved my Key

 

[AsRock]

No im not sure tbh, I only did it because W10 still has to many glitches with YouTube and Edge and such.

I have a year so Ill wait it out till M$ get there crap together....

and then yes Ill re-install it.. but till then I'm glad i saved my Key

Me too.

 

[rtwjunkie]

The only thing that happens after 30 days is the old Windows 7 files are deleted. You can still uninstall Windows 10 and reinstall Windows 7 from the original media after 30 days are up..

Has this actually been confirmed yet? Has anyone had W10 more than 30 days and then tried to use their W7 key, or is this still the wild speculation that existed from the moment it was released? Remember, Microsoft's own policy says differently, and that's why we had so many people with variance of opinions on one side or the other. I really would like to hear from people who have accomplished the reversion after the 30 days.

 

[birdie]

So far Windows 10 is a pure abomination in terms of UI, control and privacy. Perhaps, when I really need dx12, I will install Windows Server 2016.

 

[R-T-B]

Has this actually been confirmed yet? Has anyone had W10 more than 30 days and then tried to use their W7 key, or is this still the wild speculation that existed from the moment it was released? Remember, Microsoft's own policy says differently, and that's why we had so many people with variance of opinions on one side or the other. I really would like to hear from people who have accomplished the reversion after the 30 days.

I just used my key to reactivate Windows 8 for another 10 upgrade on my new mobo (Skylake, woo)

It worked fine. But my license is full retail.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I just used my key to reactivate Windows 8 for another 10 upgrade on my new mobo (Skylake, woo)

It worked fine. But my license is full retail.

After you had 10 for 30 days? If so, that's great news!

 

[R-T-B]

After you had 10 for 30 days? If so, that's great news!

Yes, 30+ days.