AMD Radeon R9 Nano Review by TPU...Not

[arbiter]

Ok dude, you need to get off the high horse preaching about AMD as being the worst thing when it comes to marketing their cards. I am pretty sure lying about specs on a card is at least as bad to running settings that benefit your card...

True but I still count it as a lie. If it was no big deal they would have been up front about it which is why to me it was a lie. Plus if I recall the performance hit on the 660ti (I believe that is what you are referencing, correct me if not) was not near as bad on the last bit of the 2gb card.

That is was 1 lie for Nvidia, Lets count AMD's lie's. Lie #1, Radeon 300 series isn't a rebrand, Lie #2 Fury X is 20% faster then 980ti, About to be Lie #3 Nano being 30% faster then a gtx970. If want to go back even more then could come up with a lot more about AMD. So lies are 2-1 atm but soon to be 3-1 most likely. I don't expect any AMD fan to let gtx970 issue go since its old issue and only thing you have to use.

 

[remixedcat]

It is probably no exaggeration to say that AMD's biggest marketing advantage occurred when Roy was given a speaking role at Nvidia. Roy seems ready to prove that lightning can indeed strike twice in the same exec.

Ugggh !

 

[GhostRyder]

That is was 1 lie for Nvidia, Lets count AMD's lie's. Lie #1, Radeon 300 series isn't a rebrand, Lie #2 Fury X is 20% faster then 980ti, About to be Lie #3 Nano being 30% faster then a gtx970. If want to go back even more then could come up with a lot more about AMD. So lies are 2-1 atm but soon to be 3-1 most likely. I don't expect any AMD fan to let gtx970 issue go since its old issue and only thing you have to use.

Coming from the guy whose been on every AMD thread talking trash consistently lol? Yea, I am the fan boy...

Spoiler

BTW there are plenty of lies from NVidia including the recent async shaders and DX12 (not to mention technically if we count the 660ti as a lie as well)...Also the entire 300 series lineup is not all rebrands so that argument can be thrown out the window.

So if we're assuming AMD is lieing about the performance of the nano, should we start assuming Nvdia will constantly lie about the specs of their cards and what features they support? Nothing should be assumed regarding either side and their claims.

 

[arbiter]

BTW there are plenty of lies from NVidia including the recent async shaders and DX12 (not to mention technically if we count the 660ti as a lie as well)...Also the entire 300 series lineup is not all rebrands so that argument can be thrown out the window.

I guess it goes without saying Async is was an AMD locked tech til recently since AMD fans love to forget that little fact. It was locked up part of the close never open source mantle.

 

[arbiter]

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press

They had a nice write up about whole issue of no nano review samples. Its pretty ugly when some of it.

edit: just read it in full and that kinda PR is more damaging then any nano review will ever be. Roy of AMD is a massive idiot, makes me think of Homer Simpson.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Roy of AMD is a massive idiot, makes me think of Homer Simpson.

Maybe they are using him to soften up investors and make them more amenable to a stock issue.

 

[OneMoar]

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press

They had a nice write up about whole issue of no nano review samples. Its pretty ugly when some of it.

edit: just read it in full and that kinda PR is more damaging then any nano review will ever be. Roy of AMD is a massive idiot, makes me think of Homer Simpson.

Yikes
methinks that Roy is about to have a very very bad week

 

[Basard]

What i don't understand is how they can charge more for things getting smaller. That's what computers do. They get smaller. But you're supposed to keep the power down to a certain point and just make them the same size, yet more powerful.

Things have gotten way out of hand though.... Somehow having a huge graphics card with a million heat pipes going everywhere is a good thing. I'm surprised that there aren't cases of people computers just bursting into flames because their water pump dies.

Now, all the sudden they wanna make a card how it's supposed to be (almost), using less components, but charge us even more for it?

LOL... and when I type "r9 nano review" into google, first thing that pops up is this thread... Good job AMD! Wow...

Next step is Renaming the card...

 

[btarunr]

Thanks for the support, Scott and Kyle.

http://techreport.com/news/29011/amd-vp-explains-nano-exclusion-tr-reviews-arent-fair
http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press/2#.VfDyxnCqpBd

 

[arbiter]

Thanks for the support, Scott and Kyle.

http://techreport.com/news/29011/amd-vp-explains-nano-exclusion-tr-reviews-arent-fair
http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press/2#.VfDyxnCqpBd

Roy called Scott @ techreport to apologize

http://techreport.com/news/29011/updated-amd-vp-explains-nano-exclusion-apologizes

Sad thing is they wanted to avoid bad review but all this PR over this is worse then any nano review.

 

[Mussels]

can't believe how badly he's fucked it all up

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

This is the worst history for AMD... after their shares fall to less than 20%, now they're being yellow coz of honest reviews that their R9 Nano isn't as fast as they claim to be? *scoffs* good job AMD, for screwing this up. Now every single tech geeks will know what you've done & will never forgive you for your actions (including me).

 

[Mussels]

i dont think they understand that websites like TPU with a history of being HONEST and labelling bad products as bad is the exact ones customers want the reviews on.

I sure wouldnt be buying a nano without a TPU review first, because of all the inconsistency of other websites - 5 sites can call a product quiet, and i get it and its screaming loud (or the opposite with my 290, every review i found of it says it overheats and is loud, yet i get neither)

 

[remixedcat]

I also could have bought this card for a future small HTPC build i have planned soon but naaaaah. Sticking with nvidia.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

i dont think they understand that websites like TPU with a history of being HONEST and labelling bad products as bad is the exact ones customers want the reviews on.

I sure wouldnt be buying a nano without a TPU review first, because of all the inconsistency of other websites - 5 sites can call a product quiet, and i get it and its screaming loud (or the opposite with my 290, every review i found of it says it overheats and is loud, yet i get neither)

Perhaps your non-standard R9 290 is using a custom cooler, so it doesn't have those issues found on a reference based 290? Could be the reason though...

 

[nem]

almost 600 coments wtf!

tpu lose by dont have review of nano , come on tpu get an nano ..

 

[arbiter]

Perhaps your non-standard R9 290 is using a custom cooler, so it doesn't have those issues found on a reference based 290? Could be the reason though...

non-ref cards had little problems with any heat issue. it was only ref coolers that really had that issue. Thing was at the time, 290 was released, it wasn't til 3 months later til non-ref cooled versions finally started to show up.

 

[OneMoar]

i dont think they understand that websites like TPU with a history of being HONEST and labelling bad products as bad is the exact ones customers want the reviews on.

I sure wouldnt be buying a nano without a TPU review first, because of all the inconsistency of other websites - 5 sites can call a product quiet, and i get it and its screaming loud (or the opposite with my 290, every review i found of it says it overheats and is loud, yet i get neither)

Thanks for the support, Scott and Kyle.

http://techreport.com/news/29011/amd-vp-explains-nano-exclusion-tr-reviews-arent-fair
http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press/2#.VfDyxnCqpBd

techreport is just a little too forgiving if you ask me
we all know why nobody is getting a NANO pre-retail
it can't live up to the hype sure it will likely offer 290x type performance but I would expect the following cadvants
1. frame times are going to suffer this happens anytime you start playing with clock speeds on the fly (let alone possible flicker issues because powerplay never works right)
2. it is GOING to throttle,thats the only way they get around the TDP/Wattage issue and can use such a tiny pcb
3.if they had ANY sense they would release this in a 3/4 or full-size gpu with proper cooling and price it at ~400.00 and they would have a 970 killer
and personally I am not at all interested in it AMD seems to be on a downward spiral lately and I don't wanna be stuck with a 650.00 dollar investment and not get any software support on it

 

[btarunr]

This is how the incessant "reviews should be fair (sic)" tweets were beginning to sound:

 

[OneMoar]

This is how the incessant "reviews should be fair (sic)" tweets were beginning to sound:

if by fair you mean favorably BIAS toward a corporation that's been on a downhill slide,and can't afford to have another product bomb out

 

[GhostRyder]

Perhaps your non-standard R9 290 is using a custom cooler, so it doesn't have those issues found on a reference based 290? Could be the reason though...

None of my 3 290X's overheated and throttled in preliminary testing except in CFX.

i dont think they understand that websites like TPU with a history of being HONEST and labelling bad products as bad is the exact ones customers want the reviews on.

I sure wouldnt be buying a nano without a TPU review first, because of all the inconsistency of other websites - 5 sites can call a product quiet, and i get it and its screaming loud (or the opposite with my 290, every review i found of it says it overheats and is loud, yet i get neither)

Maybe, who knows but the damage is done by his comments to many people. At least he was nice enough to call and apologize, though he still has a ways to go.

 

[arbiter]

it can't live up to the hype sure it will likely offer 290x type performance but I would expect the following cadvants

it probably runs about where they claim vs a 290x but that is cause its their own card and reacts the same to benchmarks.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

@GhostRyder

I see. Some of my buddies however are using liquid-cooling brackets for their 290, since it solves both heat & noise issues as they have the reference model for cheaps... said they too never have any throttling issues whatsoever after making the switch & is happy about it. Bracket I mentioned is Corsair's HG10 A1 Kit + Hydro H75 AIO Kit.

 

[Mussels]

Perhaps your non-standard R9 290 is using a custom cooler, so it doesn't have those issues found on a reference based 290? Could be the reason though...

it was this specific model bagged out on numerous websites. the first review samples had a fault, retail did not - apart from one site, none updated their articles. TPU *does* update their articles when things change (see w1zz doing driver comparisons a year later, for an example)

 

[Frick]

i dont think they understand that websites like TPU with a history of being HONEST and labelling bad products as bad is the exact ones customers want the reviews on.

Aye, when I saw that twitter thing I nearly fell off my chair (figarutively speaking of course). If TPU isn't fair, nothing else is.