* F@H Tech Assistance Thread *

thebluebumblebee · Sep 8, 2015

@Arjai , your problems, and other's similar problems are the reason that F@H numbers are falling, IMHO. Do those running BOINC have such troubles? TPU used to have 50 daily Folders, now it's under 20. I'm not Folding because of the puny numbers I get for the electricity used, and the fact that it's still too warm.

Arjai · Sep 8, 2015

I am committed to Folding. As I am to WCG! I knew coming in this was going to require some maintenance. But, seems every day I have to reboot that Box! WTF? I am going to try Standford's Blog again. Maybe it will let me join, this time.

There must be a solution to this, I know everyone is not constantly rebooting for new work.

:confused:

agent00skid · Sep 8, 2015

Apart from the weirdness with the new Core 21 units, I haven't had any issues.

Arjai · Sep 19, 2015

Ok, so, I still have to reboot, but less often, as of late(went a whole 6 days, this last run).

Now though, I seem to be caught in an endeless loop. One of the x21 jobs finished around 2 this morning. Since then, up to a few minutes ago when I shut it down, it has been uploading to 34-46% then failing and starting over. I rebooted and it started doing it all over, again!

So here lies my question. Would it do any good to uninstall the Client and try a fresh install? In that vien, where can I find my passkey? I can't seem to find the link to it.

Thanks, I hope you all can riddle me that, Haaahaaahaaa!

mx500torid · Sep 19, 2015

Passkey gets sent to your email try looking there.

Arjai · Sep 20, 2015

OK, I already have one, and, should I uninstall and reinstall? THEN, where do I find my passkey?

agent00skid · Sep 20, 2015

Arjai said:
OK, I already have one, and, should I uninstall and reinstall? THEN, where do I find my passkey?

If you already have an install with a passkey, then you can also get it from the config.xml file in the FAHClient folder. Defaults are ProgramData or AppData/Roaming.

Arjai · Sep 20, 2015

I uninstalled it. Now where is the passkey? Isn't there a site I can log into? If I remember, that's what I did when I input the key, this time. I tried Folding on my Laptop, last year, found and used the same passkey when I got my desktops back and got this 7850. Now, I don't remember where I got my passkey.

? config file is gone!

Norton · Sep 20, 2015

Arjai said:
I uninstalled it. Now where is the passkey? Isn't there a site I can log into? If I remember, that's what I did when I input the key, this time. I tried Folding on my Laptop, last year, found and used the same passkey when I got my desktops back and got this 7850. Now, I don't remember where I got my passkey.

? config file is gone!

They send it to you via email iirc. Shouldn't be an issue if you lose it- just request another.

Arjai · Sep 20, 2015

OK GOT IT!!

googled FAH passkey

Got to the FAQ

Linked to Passkey

Gives you your key basedon email address

typed it in, wallah! my passkey!!

Arjai · Oct 12, 2015

BTW, WIN10 has been running for the past few weeks, without a hitch!! OpenCL, consistent runs...Although I did take about ten days off, WiFi issues, it started right back up, took a day to spool up and two days to get a slice back.

Knock on wood, but really, Win10 has been easy peasy.

Also, just wondering, I have no idea. If I were to nab a second Gpu, say a cheap Radeon 5000.

Can I just throw it in a free slot and FAH will see it and work it, without a bridge? Or, would I need another 7000 series, or newer, to have it worth doing?

It won't be until December, if I get another going but, I am interested in these particulars.

7000, or newer
Do I need Crossfire for FAH to work?

NastyHabits · Oct 12, 2015

Arjai said:
BTW, WIN10 has been running for the past few weeks, without a hitch!! OpenCL, consistent runs...Although I did take about ten days off, WiFi issues, it started right back up, took a day to spool up and two days to get a slice back.

Knock on wood, but really, Win10 has been easy peasy.

Also, just wondering, I have no idea. If I were to nab a second Gpu, say a cheap Radeon 5000.

Can I just throw it in a free slot and FAH will see it and work it, without a bridge? Or, would I need another 7000 series, or newer, to have it worth doing?

It won't be until December, if I get another going but, I am interested in these particulars.

7000, or newer
Do I need Crossfire for FAH to work?

1. I've been using Windows 10 for quite a while now. No issues.
2. I vote for a 7000 series or newer.
3. You don't need Crossfire for F@H.

Arjai · Oct 13, 2015

NastyHabits said:
1. I've been using Windows 10 for quite a while now. No issues.
2. I vote for a 7000 series or newer.
3. You don't need Crossfire for F@H.

Thanks!!

I knew someone could answer!! I appreciate it @NastyHabits !!

Now I just need to keep an eye out for something I can afford!

Also, if I may, I'd like to ask what would be the best folder while still being efficient.

It also has to be an AMG, right? Or, can I toss a Nvidea in with my 7850? Or is that too much to ask?

I know there are some 970's out there, still, that people are unloading, in order to finance a 980. I wouldn't mind folding on one, if it's feasible to run both on the same MB.

Otherwise another AMG, say maybe a 270 or 280, for a good price? Would they outpace my 7850?

I'm sure I could list a few more questions but, these, I think will point me in the correct direction, for now.

Thanks, in advance!

hertz9753 · Oct 13, 2015

The 2xx's can't fold anymore.

NastyHabits · Oct 13, 2015

@Arjai -- I'm running a GTX 960 in the weak little PC I have listed in my sig. I have a somewhat unique situation that prompted to me build it. I wanted the most PPD I could get and not raise my electric bill to "Stage 3". My setup uses about as much juice as a light bulb. The only thing wrong with AM1 motherboards is while they have a full length PCIe slot, it's only x4 not x16. I lose about 10-15%. I average around 115K to 120K PPD instead of 140-150. Even so, it blows the doors off my 7850 (the PC in my system specs).

All that said, it seems to me that the GTX 970 hits all the right points both in terms of initial cost and PPD per watt. It's just that I can get more PPD per month from my weak little AM1 than if I used a 970 or better which I'd have to shutdown 1 or 2 weeks per month to keep my utility bill in check. (Damn smartmeters and tiered pricing!)

hertz9753 · Oct 13, 2015

I can't post pictures here with out a URL.

My emachine has a GTX 960 in it. That is the same rig that Buck called an Octopus. It has been updated with a dual core AMD, 6 GB's of memory and cleaned up a bit.

Arjai · Oct 13, 2015

Um, well. What I was asking...It's Karen, in my specs, a Core2Duo. I have the 7850 in her and was wondering if I could toss a 970 in there, with it.

Would FAH recognize it, as well as the 7850? Would they not play nice together? Not sure if I would need to even use an extra driver if it's just folding and not outputting Video...Or...

Can I have an AMD driver, for the 7850, and a NVidea Driver, for a 960, or 970, work together on the same computer?

Sounds unlikely, to me. But, so does water cooling your phone, and that exists!

BUCK NASTY · Oct 13, 2015

hertz9753 said:
It has been updated with a dual core AMD

Swagger

. LOL.

hertz9753 · Oct 13, 2015

BUCK NASTY said:
Swagger. LOL.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=hertz9753

You better start folding again.

thebluebumblebee · Oct 13, 2015

Arjai said:
work together on the same computer?

It's supposed to work, but the problem that I see, or think I see, is that your system is just too slow for a fast GPU like that. CPU speed affects the high end Nvidia GPU's. It would work, but you might not get the expected PPD.

hertz9753 said:
The 2xx's can't fold anymore.

I think he's talking about the 270/270X/280/280X GPU's, which of course Fold.
The GTX-970/980 are the best value Folders, all things considered.

Arjai · Oct 14, 2015

thebluebumblebee said:
It's supposed to work, but the problem that I see, or think I see, is that your system is just too slow for a fast GPU like that. CPU speed affects the high end Nvidia GPU's. It would work, but you might not get the expected PPD.

I think he's talking about the 270/270X/280/280X GPU's, which of course Fold.
The GTX-970/980 are the best value Folders, all things considered.

The e8600 is clocking at over 3GHz. Is that really too slow? for a 970? Even so, it's got to be a bit better than the 7850 generation at Folding.

thebluebumblebee · Oct 14, 2015

Arjai said:
The e8600 is clocking at over 3GHz. Is that really too slow? for a 970? Even so, it's got to be a bit better than the 7850 generation at Folding.

I don't know, but I expect it would be. Also, I only see one PCI-e slot on that MSI G31M motherboard???????

hertz9753 · Oct 14, 2015

Bruce I won't quote you but NVIDIA 2xx can't fold anymore.

Arjai · Oct 15, 2015

thebluebumblebee said:
I don't know, but I expect it would be. Also, I only see one PCI-e slot on that MSI G31M motherboard???????

I haven't opened it up recently...I think you may be right! I do have the Mad Cruncher to play with, perhaps I can drop one in there. BTW Folding works in Linux, right? I don't see why not but, I also haven't seen anybody mention it.

thebluebumblebee · Oct 15, 2015

Arjai said:
Folding works in Linux, right?

It takes some work. I got it to work much easier than in the link that follows, but things change all the time. It also works with AMD cards.
F@H Ubuntu 14.10 install for Nvidia GPU's

System Name	Main/DC
Processor	i7-3770K/i7-2600K
Motherboard	MSI Z77A-GD55/GA-P67A-UD4-B3
Cooling	Phanteks PH-TC14CS/H80
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) LP /4GB Kingston DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX 660 Ti/MSI HD7770
Storage	Crucial MX100 256GB/120GB Samsung 830 & Seagate 2TB(died)
Display(s)	Asus 24' LED/Samsung SyncMaster B1940
Case	P100/Antec P280 It's huge!
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	SeaSonic SS-660XP2/Seasonic SS-760XP2
Software	Win 7 Home Premiun 64 Bit

System Name	Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor	i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard	HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling	All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory	2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s)	HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage	?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s)	1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case	HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s)	Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply	19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse	cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard	Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software	Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores	World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

System Name	Waterfall \| xe
Processor	Core i3-12100F \| i5-1240P
Motherboard	Gigabyte B660M-DS3H \| HP laptop
Cooling	Custom Watercooling \| Stock laptop
Memory	2*16GB \| 16GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	RX 5700 with WC blocks \| Iris Xe
Storage	Intel 660 1TB + Crucial BX100 500GB \| 1TB SSD
Display(s)	U24E850R+U2515H \| Internal 16"
Case	Be Quiet! Dark Base 900 \| Laptop
Audio Device(s)	Audio 2 DJ + Xenyx Q802USB \| Realtek
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W \| 65W USB-C Power brick
Mouse	Logitech M330
Keyboard	Logitech G610 Orion Brown \| Laptop
Software	Gentoo + Windows 10 Pro \| Gentoo

System Name	Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor	i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard	HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling	All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory	2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s)	HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage	?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s)	1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case	HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s)	Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply	19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse	cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard	Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software	Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores	World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

System Name	Mine, spare gamer, comp,
Processor	5800x, 5800x. 3600,
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Elite wifi, Gigabyte B550m wifi, Asus x570 Gaming wifi
Cooling	Ventoo V5, Coolermaster 240 mm AIO, Ventoo V5
Memory	32 GB 3600 ddr4, 32 GB 3600 ddr4, 16 GB 3200 ddr4
Video Card(s)	6800 XT reference, MSI Gaming Z 6800XT, EVGA RTX 2080,
Storage	2- 1TB 2280, Samsung 500 GB 980,
Display(s)	2-TCL 43 inch 4k, , 27 Inch Dell 1920x1080,
Case	2-Antec 280, Matrexx 50
Audio Device(s)	Bluetooth output to Sony STR-DH190 into Sony SS-CS5 speakers, same, onboard, same
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1350 , Seasonic 650 Watt Platinum, Deepcool 750 Watt Gold
Mouse	Corsair, Sentinel Advance, Zio Levetron, CMStorm, Transformer
Keyboard	G15, , CMStorm, G15
Software	Win 10, Zorin

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System Name	Main PC- Gamer- Main Cruncher/Folder and too many crunching/folding rigs
Processor	Ryzen 5900X- Ryzen 5950X- Ryzen 3950X and etc...
Motherboard	Asrock X570 Extreme4- MSI X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi- MSI B450M Bazooka Max and etc...
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S (dual fan)- EK 360 AIO with push/pull fans- Corsair H115i RGB Pro XT and etc...
Memory	2x16GB GSkill FlareX 3200/c14- 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3600/c16- 2x16GB Team 3600/c18 and etc..
Video Card(s)	MSI Gaming RX 6800- Asus RTX 3070 TUF OC- MSI Ventus GTX 1660Ti and etc...
Storage	Main PC (1TB WD SN850- 2TB PNY CS 3040- 2TB Seagate Firecuda) and etc...
Display(s)	Main PC (2x24" Dell UltraSharp U2414H)
Case	Phanteks P600s- Seasonic Q704- Fractal Meshify C and etc...
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z625 THX 2.1 speakers
Power Supply	EVGA 750 G3- SeaSonic DGC 750- EVGA P2 850 and etc...
Mouse	G300s
Keyboard	Corsair K65
VR HMD	N/A
Software	Windows 10 Pro or Ubuntu
Benchmark Scores	Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

System Name	Rex
Processor	Ryzen 2600
Motherboard	GigaByte B450M DS3H
Cooling	Wraith
Memory	16 GB Corsair Vengence 3000
Video Card(s)	Evga GTX 1660 SC
Storage	XPG M.2, Samsung 860 SSD, WD Black 1 TB
Display(s)	ASUS VG248
Case	Corsair mATX cube. (Alas they don't make it anymore)
Power Supply	Corsair HX 600 Watt
Mouse	Microsoft
Keyboard	Logitech
Software	Windows 10 64 ibit

System Name	Fuzzy Bunny
Processor	Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard	ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2
Memory	16GB Mushkin 2133
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GTX 980 Ti-Kraken G10
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB
Display(s)	ASUS 24"
Case	Antec 300
Audio Device(s)	Stock
Power Supply	CoolerMaster Gold 1000 Watt
Software	Windows 7 64

System Name	Main Rig
Processor	AMD RYZEN 5600X
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI
Cooling	CORSAIR H115i
Memory	16gb DDR4 @ 1200MHZ
Video Card(s)	GIGABYTE RTX 4080 SUPER
Storage	SAMSUNG M.2 1TB
Display(s)	ASUS 24" IPS
Case	Coolermaster Centurion 590
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA SUPERNOVA 1000
Software	Windows 10 64

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