NVIDIA Releases Full-featured GeForce GTX 980 for Notebooks

[xorbe]

"Full blown" means it has all the gpu hardware, at least that's what I think of. It shouldn't surprise anyone that the clocks would be adjusted for a semi-mobile form factor.

Yogurt, where did you get that a single mobile 980 will be more power hungry than 980M SLI? Just curious. Many people such as myself don't want anything to do with potential SLI or CFX hassles. We'd rather pay for the most capable single gpu solution.

Speaking of which, a semi-mobile Titan X should be faster than mobile 980, and completely doable. But for 1920x1080 possibly mostly pointless.

 

[yogurt_21]

"Full blown" means it has all the gpu hardware, at least that's what I think of. It shouldn't surprise anyone that the clocks would be adjusted for a semi-mobile form factor.

Yogurt, where did you get that a single mobile 980 will be more power hungry than 980M SLI? Just curious. Many people such as myself don't want anything to do with potential SLI or CFX hassles. We'd rather pay for the most capable single gpu solution.

Speaking of which, a semi-mobile Titan X should be faster than mobile 980, and completely doable. But for 1920x1080 possibly mostly pointless.

980m based full laptops pull between 150-180 watts at load. That's everything cpu, gpu, monitor, etc.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...80m-970m-laptop-gpus-980m-benchmarked-tested/
I know notebook check lists the 980m at 100 watts and the sli at 200 watts but no one has seen that kind of draw. The most I've seen is 75 watts.


The 980 pulls a maximum of 190 watts and a peak draw of 184 watts. (according to this sites reviews)
That makes it over double the draw of a single 980m. (~75 watts peak)

According to notebookcheck's average of many reviews the 980m sli comes in at around 20% faster overall than a desktop 980.

Thus 980m sli has 18% less power draw, 20% more performance than a desktop 980.

Remind me again why a chip designed for a desktop needed to be slapped into a notebook?

@ the 1080p point, there are several 4k gaming laptops now. So more gpu power in laptops would be welcome. But shoehorning a desktop variant into one is not.

 

[Sihastru]

The 980 pulls a maximum of 190 watts and a peak draw of 184 watts. (according to this sites reviews)

You're thinking of the desktop 980. The 980 in the laptops is quite a bit different.

 

[xorbe]

According to notebookcheck's average of many reviews the 980m sli comes in at around 20% faster overall than a desktop 980.

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Remind me again why a chip designed for a desktop needed to be slapped into a notebook?

The performance point is valid -- 980M SLI should be faster than mobile 980, when SLI is working properly. I am guessing that "luggable gaming" will slap 2 mobile 980's in a huge 15-pound Clevo/Sager frame, lol. Which should be faster than 980M SLI. Halo product.

 

[Nosada]

Dear nVidia (and AMD for that matter),

If you succeed in placing high performance parts in thermally and electrically constrained places, then why have the "premium" GPUs been so lackluster these last few years? Why can't you do more with better cooling and higher power tolerances?

Regards,
Someone who remembers when premium prices meant premium performance.

 

[xorbe]

Dear nVidia (and AMD for that matter),

If you succeed in placing high performance parts in thermally and electrically constrained places, then why have the "premium" GPUs been so lackluster these last few years? Why can't you do more with better cooling and higher power tolerances?

Regards,
Someone who remembers when premium prices meant premium performance.

I doubt mobile gpu designs are chugging 250-300 watts like Titan X / Fury X cards (plus oc). Mobile 980 is 2/3 of a Titan X, and will surely be somewhat more clock / temp / power limited, while possibly more expensive than Titan!

 

[Sihastru]

Dear nVidia (and AMD for that matter),

If you succeed in placing high performance parts in thermally and electrically constrained places, then why have the "premium" GPUs been so lackluster these last few years? Why can't you do more with better cooling and higher power tolerances?

Regards,
Someone who remembers when premium prices meant premium performance.

The problem isn't really AMD or nVIDIA. The problem is that we're still on 28nm. And at 28nm you can't cram too much into a certain die area. nVIDIA did that with the 980/980Ti but they had to sacrifice DP performance.

And we've been on this process node for so long that TSMC had time to perfected it, lowering power consumption. AMD used this opportunity to create the Nano, nVIDIA used it to create this mobile 980 (non-M).

nVIDIA has the upper hand here with their designs, their efficiency is superior to what AMD has to offer. It is not possible to have a Nano in a laptop even if some dream about that.

 

[Brusfantomet]

The problem isn't really AMD or nVIDIA. The problem is that we're still on 28nm. And at 28nm you can't cram too much into a certain die area. nVIDIA did that with the 980/980Ti but they had to sacrifice DP performance.

And we've been on this process node for so long that TSMC had time to perfected it, lowering power consumption. AMD used this opportunity to create the Nano, nVIDIA used it to create this mobile 980 (non-M).

nVIDIA has the upper hand here with their designs, their efficiency is superior to what AMD has to offer. It is not possible to have a Nano in a laptop even if some dream about that.

Considering you could get laptops with a skt 1366 CPUs and overclock them i see NOTING engineering wise that would make a laptop with a Nano in it impossible. It would of course need a beefy cooler and be rather fat. The batteries will just act as a UPS but for something that size (17" and upp) one can argue that it fills more a mobile workstation role.

 

[yotano211]

I have a SLI based laptop and I love it, I wouldnt change it for nothing. If I want to go somewhere and dont want to take it with me, I have my business laptop for that, a clevo w230ss with a 860m gpu.

The peak power draw is about 283watts according to the watt meter. I got it for a sweat deal with the original 780m sli. I upgraded the cards to 970m sli for $152 after all of the ebay fees. For that I extended the life for this laptop for about 2 years, increased the performance about 20%, temps dropped 16C, and 45 watts less power draw vs the older gpus.

Some of us always like laptops with dual cards, its in our blood. The only thing I wont like about this laptop 980 is going to be the price of it. I see the price easily going over $1k.

 

[Xzibit]

I have a SLI based laptop and I love it, I wouldnt change it for nothing. If I want to go somewhere and dont want to take it with me, I have my business laptop for that, a clevo w230ss with a 860m gpu.

The peak power draw is about 283watts according to the watt meter. I got it for a sweat deal with the original 780m sli. I upgraded the cards to 970m sli for $152 after all of the ebay fees. For that I extended the life for this laptop for about 2 years, increased the performance about 20%, temps dropped 16C, and 45 watts less power draw vs the older gpus.

Some of us always like laptops with dual cards, its in our blood. The only thing I wont like about this laptop 980 is going to be the price of it. I see the price easily going over $1k.

MSI already said it will be a $500 price premium over the current 980m models.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Any reviews yet?

 

[yotano211]

MSI already said it will be a $500 price premium over the current 980m models.

So the price is going to be around 1,200-1,300, wow.

 

[Prima.Vera]

So the price is going to be around 1,200-1,300, wow.

Yeah. Callousness ala nGreedia...

 

[yotano211]

Yeah. Callousness ala nGreedia...

add about 200 and that is the price I purchased my laptop with 780m sli for.

 

[qubit]

Sounds great, but I'll bet a laptop containing one of these will cost a small fortune.