who should acquire amd??

[dorsetknob]

Nice. Although you could care less about monopolies, how do you think economies would be sustainable without competition?

the de facto standard for humanity is economy flagging go to war with someone

 

[TheMailMan78]

Free? How is it Mailman and you are on the same side in this argument? He has always come accross as an ardent anti-Socialist.

It's like Bizarro-World today, LOL.

.......You missed it boss. cadaveca is practicing trollonomics.

 

[Easy Rhino]

nobody should buy AMD. it should go into the dumpster.

 

[cadaveca]

.......You missed it boss. cadaveca is practicing trollonomics.

Practicing, more like giving lessons. Oh the humanity, I like monopolies. Please everyone tell me how wrong I am.

nobody you should buy AMD. it should go into the dumpster.

They can't. Intel needs them. So AMD won't be going anywhere until x64 goes bye-bye. They just might not have any new products for a while.

 

[rtwjunkie]

.......You missed it boss. cadaveca is practicing trollonomics.

Oh, guess I got suckered in today. LMAO.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Oh, guess I got suckered in today. LMAO.

Dude this whole thread has been troll bait since day one. Its almost as bad as my "Ebola and you" thread.

 

[Frick]

I dunno, has dave always been this sort of almost edgy bleak troll dude? I seem to remember a time when he wasn't. I mean I'm not complaining, I've always felt Mailman is too lonely, but still.

And anyway, trolling lilhoff and Ford is always fun.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

...
Like I said, I'm an idiot. But at least you aren't jumping down the young one's throat now, and instead are focused on me. Like, I could care less what anyone thinks about me. THe only people whose opinions I rally for are those of my children. Rather than calling his opinion idiotic, you could have chosen less harsh words. Seemed like you were looking for a fight, so I gave you an easy one. Yet, we are supposed to be a community, so rather than bashing someone down, reach out and help them take a step up higher, please?

To be frank, I seem to not yet have finesse.

TheMailMan called me earlier on long posts, so I tried to shorten them. In shortening them I seem to have lost wit and become more of an ass.



On that note, my apologies @Atomic77.

 

[cadaveca]

To be frank, I seem to not yet have finesse.

TheMailMan called me earlier on long posts, so I tried to shorten them. In shortening them I seem to have lost wit and become more of an ass.



On that note, my apologies @Atomic77.

What my point is here is that Atomic77's response to your initial post, defending his own ,said it all, but you laid into him again. Once he responded, you could have seen that he wasn't coming at this from life experience. OR, is a fantastic troll.

You can make long posts all you like. Your opinion is valued. But attacking other memebers is not valued. IF you go after their opinion, you have to be very tactful, careful in the words you use.


In all seriousness though, I really think Google is the only real savior possible. Any other idea is just BS. Apple could be a contender, but given their locked-garden business model, having AMD restricted to Macs would suck.

 

[TheMailMan78]

What my point is here is that Atomic77's response to your initial post, defending his own ,said it all, but you laid into him again. Once he responded, you could have seen that he wasn't coming at this from life experience. OR, is a fantastic troll.

You can make long posts all you like. Your opinion is valued. But attacking other memebers is not valued. IF you go after their opinion, you have to be very tactful, careful in the words you use.


In all seriousness though, I really think Google is the only real savior possible. Any other idea is just BS. Apple could be a contender, but given their locked-garden business model, having AMD restricted to Macs would suck.

I can see them going back to the "PowerPC" model they had years ago with the crap "sonnet" upgrades lol. Apple would love nothing more.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I dunno, has dave always been this sort of almost edgy bleak troll dude? I seem to remember a time when he wasn't. I mean I'm not complaining, I've always felt Mailman is too lonely, but still.

And anyway, trolling lilhoff and Ford is always fun.

It served it's purpose. Dave sacrificed himself to focus any attacks on him instead of Atomic 77.

Well done!

 

[yogurt_21]

So since valve is trying to release their own console wouldn't it make sense that EA is also in the conversation? And Origin based console... wow tingly spine thing.

or maybe since apple got brought up Dell buys them and uses them exclusively in their products... these scenarios are making me sad.

might as well put the US Gov in the running, then they can spend all their time making things for the military

 

[TheMailMan78]

So since valve is trying to release their own console wouldn't it make sense that EA is also in the conversation? And Origin based console... wow tingly spine thing.

or maybe since apple got brought up Dell buys them and uses them exclusively in their products... these scenarios are making me sad.

might as well put the US Gov in the running, then they can spend all their time making things for the military

FYI its illegal for the US government to make ANY weapons themselves. If its going to be used at a federal level (Military/Intelligence) it has to be bought from the public sector. The US buying a company is just madness. They don't need to anyway. They just create a federal agency, regulate any and everything they don't like then come up with a subsidized version of that market in the public sector bought by lobbyist then force the goods/service down the publics neck via taxes/IRS. Instant revenue for all the special interests and more centralized power for the elite. Everyone "wins". lol

They don't need to buy a company when they own the market

 

[yogurt_21]

FYI its illegal for the US government to make ANY weapons themselves. If its going to be used at a federal level (Military/Intelligence) it has to be bought from the public sector. The US buying a company is just madness. They don't need to anyway. They just create a federal agency, regulate any and everything they don't like then come up with a subsidized version of that market in the public sector bought by lobbyist then force the goods/service down the publics neck via taxes/IRS. Instant revenue for all the special interests and more centralized power for the elite. Everyone "wins". lol

They don't need to buy a company when they own the market

So that puts Boeing, ATK, and etc in the running... and then we'll be forced to buy the govt spec version which won't work at all for our uses and while the price may be cheap our taxes will double?

 

[TheMailMan78]

So that puts Boeing, ATK, and etc in the running... and then we'll be forced to buy the govt spec version which won't work at all for our uses and while the price may be cheap our taxes will double?

More like State Farm, All State, Liberty Mutual, United Healthcare, Aetna, Humana etc.. is a more relevant/direct comparison. Boeing and such get their kick backs via patents. Its not as direct.

 

[yogurt_21]

That sounds like ACA... crap. So you're saying we're attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis?

 

[Kanan]

Indeed he didn't. He only mentioned the good products coming out, AFTER he mentioned the IF factors they COULD be doing, including better management. His post sounded as if they have good future products coming out, so they will be all set, leaving out any mention of their progress at management.

Well I'm an optimist, some of you guys should be more optimistic too, it's not a bad thing. And my optimism has reasons, I think AMD changed a lot since Rory Read left the company, they try to build quality products now, priced high and try to be a unique company not someone in the shadow of Nvidia. Thats a risk, but it can pay off if AMD delivers. Partly, they already did, the new Fiji products are good. The 390X has about the performance of a 980 and is priced less. Etc. I tend to see things positively rather than being negative.

 

[dorsetknob]

That sounds like ACA... crap. So you're saying we're attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis?

or in Bastard latin "" Digitus erectus anus insertum Rotatum ""

 

[rtwjunkie]

Well I'm an optimist, some of you guys should be more optimistic too, it's not a bad thing. And my optimism has reasons, I think AMD changed a lot since Rory Read left the company, they try to build quality products now, priced high and try to be a unique company not someone in the shadow of Nvidia. Thats a risk, but it can pay off if AMD delivers. Partly, they already did, the new Fiji products are good. The 390X has about the performance of a 980 and is priced less. Etc. I tend to see things positively rather than being negative.

Don't worry, I'm with you man, borderline between hopeful and optimistic. I want them to get all the bilge pumps on the leaky ship operational!

 

[Schmuckley]

What about this,though?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9643/jim-keller-leaves-amd

 

[cadaveca]

I dunno, has dave always been this sort of almost edgy bleak troll dude? I seem to remember a time when he wasn't. I mean I'm not complaining, I've always felt Mailman is too lonely, but still.

And anyway, trolling lilhoff and Ford is always fun.

Um, actually, yes, I have always been. The best troll is the troll you don't recognize. I've never had the patience for people being rude, and I play the long game.

What about this,though?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9643/jim-keller-leaves-amd

Not important. If Zen is done and doesn't need his assistance, maybe AMD can hire him back for new work in the future, if he is available. This is not the first time he left.

At the same time, we need more students in ASIC design to follow in his footsteps. He might be of more use to the industry as a teacher.

You know, I wonder if Zen might be full 128-bit, since there was 128bit FMA in bulldozer... and AVX is 256-bit stuff...

 

[Freezer]

"Other" ...

Tandy

Seriously, TI.

 

[R-T-B]

So, you troll and expect an equally half-assed answer. Bravo, I fell for your plan. Slow clap. Neither of us is the better off.

Really dude, if you didn't learn anything from that troll it says more about you than him.

Don't call people names. And yeah, calling someone an idiot is calling someone a name. You could have called his IDEA idiotic and it would've been different. Instead you attacked the person.

Dave did well here. For once, it was an educational troll. Learn and move on.

 

[Schmuckley]

Isn't AMD an offspring of TI?
Tandy,oy.
TRS-80
Raaka-Tu

 

[remixedcat]

"Other" ...

Tandy

Seriously, TI.

TI doesn't do those kinda CPUs anymore they shut down OMAP.