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OFFICIAL Fallout 4 (Discussion)

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If this is an actual screenshot I'll just go an kill myself. Or not, because it's Bethsoft and NO ONE there can't find theif ass with anything less than twenty nineteen year old crack-hookers finding it for them.

I might just pirate it and play it so I can tell you guys how bad it is. It'll be fun, I promise!

And I will be so very right in everything I say.

Yeah it is an actual screenshot. Ars Technica reviewed the game and they said it looks like ass

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...your-next-gen-expectations-at-the-vault-door/

Doesn't look like this will be a great Fallout game but by the time I buy the game and all of it's DLC for $20 the mod community will have given it a facelift, patched it and made the game better all around. Bethesda really does depend on the mod community to make Fallout games and Elder Scrolls games better.
 
Some of the ausseys should setup a VPN so us US fellow TPU members can unlock our game :)
 
I am on a VPN right now with minutes to go until the game is launchable. I'll post first impressions while I'm at work in another 8 hours or so. Couldn't sleep this morning, got up without an alarm lol.
 
Yeah it is an actual screenshot. Ars Technica reviewed the game and they said it looks like ass

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...your-next-gen-expectations-at-the-vault-door/

Doesn't look like this will be a great Fallout game but by the time I buy the game and all of it's DLC for $20 the mod community will have given it a facelift, patched it and made the game better all around. Bethesda really does depend on the mod community to make Fallout games and Elder Scrolls games better.


Wow.

I can't even put into words.

Wow.



The article you've linked to basically makes all of my worst fears absolutely prudent.
1) The story is standard fare, with the kidnapping of a child being the kick-off. Jesus, it's like somebody at Bethesda just recently read Hero of a Thousand Faces and decided that their game was going to be that.
2) The graphical fidelity is...I think they favorably called it not next-gen. Problem is, "next gen" is our current generation. That's depressing.
3) Base system is a shallow add-on, without any need to defend it should you have built defenses. I was criticized when I said this was likely the case, but I really regret being right here.
4) Crap progression. The term "bullet sponge" used in a game where bullets are a big part of conservation efforts is frightening. I hate it when enemies get "more difficult" just by increasing their health bars.
5) Poor leveling through SPECIAL. This is what kills me most. They set up a false dichotomy between specialized characters and a ROLE PLAYING experience. The reality is that you need high strength to be able to carry things. You need things to craft other things. This means that being a Ninja or a Mad Scientist isn't a possibility. You need a substantial chunk of those starting 21 points in strength which means you're playing the game handicapped, or you aren't able to play a role. Consider me severely unimpressed.

I'm focusing on two paragraphs, which make me look forward to the inevitable complaints of those early adopters:
"If you don't spend all those points, you'll be stuck either ignoring a lot of craftable loot or fast-traveling back to a settlement and emptying your backpack of useful junk every 20 minutes. And if you decide to get into crafting—which is a good idea, considering that it yields the best weapon and armor options in the game's early portions—you'll probably spend a lot of time scrounging through every bookshelf and cabinet in the game's buildings, homes, and offices, looking for rarer materials like adhesive and nuclear material that you'll need to put the finishing touches on that particularly powerful scope for your 10mm pistol.

In all, Fallout 4's new "use junk to build stuff" system gets hugely in the way of the series' long-standing "play however you want" philosophy. I didn't necessarily hate it, but I think it added a lot of unsatisfying minutes of resource management, obsessive item-hunting, and level-up anxiety without a rich payoff in terms of cool quest, weapon, or gameplay opportunities."




I think it's time to kick my feet up, and watch as people try to explain away all of the bad decisions from Bethesda, and try to retroactively be happy with what is a fundamentally flawed game. I look forward to this, while having no doubts that this will be exactly the same as Bulldozer fans telling me how they're still happy with their investments. Those same fans that a few years later are happy to see AMD sued over "false advertising" over core count.

Is it just me, or does anyone get the weirdest sense of deja vu?




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Allow for some positivity.
1)Minimal reported bugs and crashing 40 hours in. That's...Wow. I wasn't expecting that. Kudos Bethesda.
2) No mention of Hard Core mode. This is a personal preference. Hard core mode made some of the DLC a chore, rather than just fun. I'm sorry, but the Sierra Madre was better when I only had to worry about ganking the ghost people, not getting stuff to convert to coins, to convert to food and water; because everything I used to have "had traces of radiation," despite the in-game items also having regular radiation.
3) No complaints about the guns. I always hated that guns were either impossible to find ammo for, or did no damage. That hasn't been touched on in the article, so fingers crossed that it isn't an issue.
 
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spent 2 hours playing.

why do some things look like ass? because its all live, realtime. combat can happen and you can walk off and listen to them talk mid conversation and start throwing down turrets or playing with the dog. that limits it a little.

combat is good and fluid, melee and ranged.
power armor works well and makes sense - you can use the parts indepently for a hella weight penalty, or acquire fusion cores (rare?) and use it in OP mode.

290 cant quite run ultra perfectly, had to turn shadows + AA down. driver update could well make it work better there.
 
Yeah it is an actual screenshot. Ars Technica reviewed the game and they said it looks like ass

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...your-next-gen-expectations-at-the-vault-door/

Doesn't look like this will be a great Fallout game but by the time I buy the game and all of it's DLC for $20 the mod community will have given it a facelift, patched it and made the game better all around. Bethesda really does depend on the mod community to make Fallout games and Elder Scrolls games better.

Wow is right. Not a very flattering review. It has highs and lows about where they always have been for Bethesda games. It will certainly take the mod community to not only fix it, but make it alot more interesting. I'm definately going to wait on this one for awhile.
 
I should have called in sick today...
 
Patiently waiting to see everybody's thoughts on this.

Will probably grab it in a week or 2
 
Wow is right. Not a very flattering review. It has highs and lows about where they always have been for Bethesda games. It will certainly take the mod community to not only fix it, but make it alot more interesting. I'm definately going to wait on this one for awhile.
Yeah but be come on, let's be honest, it's Bethesda and Gamebryo...we knew it was gonna be like this, just as the modding community had to fix the last 2 Fallout games.. :P
 
@lilhasselhoffer If SPECIAL works like that at leadt they've kept something from the earliest games. It's a good thing.
 
Not to promote someones channel but I just saw this and will watch it later.
 
@lilhasselhoffer If SPECIAL works like that at leadt they've kept something from the earliest games. It's a good thing.

Yes and no.

I remember in the earliest games that strength was something you needed, but you could theoretically play the entire game without being a hoarder. You hoarded to get items to sell, but didn't need to carry 100 lbs of destroyed books. Look at what we've gotten to. There's a push to craft, which requires inventory. The inventory hasn't appreciably expanded in years, yet the need to carry things has dramatically increased to use large new sections of the game.

Honestly, I think it's expanding a segment of the game without really fitting it in with the rest of it. Yes, you eventually get perks that halve to weight of heavy weapons, allow fast travel when over encumbered, and even halve the weight of low weight items, but that's putting a bandage onto a fundamentally broken system.


What I'd like to see is being a SPECIAList matter. I'd like the weight system to be decoupled from strength, so that the mad scientist didn't have to constantly fast travel. It's putting up a barrier to play as a low strength character, that either requires you forego immersion or forego content.



I'd like to be a character with high perception, intelligence, and luck. I'd gladly forego charisma, endurance, and agility to be that mad scientist. My issue is that a mad scientist spending half their time magically teleporting about the world, to compensate for no carrying capacity, is just sad.
 
Well I will wait buying this game, hear what people have to say first, at greenmangaming 20% Off till November 13
 
Good news everyone!!!

Fallout is running a perfect 60fps on max settings on my desktop. Sorry console plebs, gonna have to deal with performance issues. Game looks lovely and the combat is intense and well tuned thus far. Character customisation is the best so far in any Bethesda game, no sliders, very intuitive for any game. Sure the game isn't going to be perfect but it's making a good first impression with me. BTW, don't worry about SPECIAL, you can add points to it with every level up
 
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I got everything on ultra and have ZERO lag spikes. The game looks awesome and whoever says it doesn't is just nit picking. I did however encounter the first bug. I started the game and watch the TV about the bombings and then you are suppose to leave and go to the vault but the door was closed with no way out. I had to start a new game to continue.
 
I'm hoping not to have issues with only 6GB RAM (the minimum requirements are 8GB).

I have 3 x 2GB sticks and a total of 6 slots. I can't use all 6 because of the CPU cooler... so to upgrade it means I can't just add ram but I have to buy a whole set of new RAM, and I'm not in a mood to upgrade right now... :/

In the meanwhile, look what I've found:

http://orcz.com/Fallout_4:_Recorded_Names_List

You choose a name for your character when talking to the Vault-Tec Rep and filling out your Vault-Tec Registration Form at the start of the game.

Bethesda voice recorded 1,000 common names for Codsworth and he will refer to you by that name during certain dialogs.

If you wish your name to be spoken out, be sure to pick one from the list below.

If your name is not in the recorded name list, Codsworth will refer to you as "Sir" or "Madam".

So you can call your character... Titties... it's one of the names which Codsworth will address you by...
 
I'm hoping not to have issues with only 6GB RAM (the minimum requirements are 8GB).

I have 3 x 2GB sticks and a total of 6 slots. I can't use all 6 because of the CPU cooler... so to upgrade it means I can't just add ram but I have to buy a whole set of new RAM, and I'm not in a mood to upgrade right now... :/

In the meanwhile, look what I've found:

http://orcz.com/Fallout_4:_Recorded_Names_List



So you can call your character... Titties... it's one of the names which Codsworth will address you by...

Seriously, you can have (NSFW):

Fuck, Fucker and Fuckface

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lol - sorry, Barbara isn't allowed.
 
I'm hoping not to have issues with only 6GB RAM (the minimum requirements are 8GB).

I have 3 x 2GB sticks and a total of 6 slots. I can't use all 6 because of the CPU cooler... so to upgrade it means I can't just add ram but I have to buy a whole set of new RAM, and I'm not in a mood to upgrade right now... :/

In the meanwhile, look what I've found:

http://orcz.com/Fallout_4:_Recorded_Names_List



So you can call your character... Titties... it's one of the names which Codsworth will address you by...

Remember to check for driver updates. Nvidia already released an update just for the game so that should help. I haven't installed it yet and running perfect. And lol at Codsworth.

EDIT: Here's some in-game screenies I took during the intro. See it doesn't look that bad. I mean really, resorting to compressed JPEGs, the nerve! :p
 

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I'm hoping not to have issues with only 6GB RAM (the minimum requirements are 8GB).

I have 3 x 2GB sticks and a total of 6 slots. I can't use all 6 because of the CPU cooler... so to upgrade it means I can't just add ram but I have to buy a whole set of new RAM, and I'm not in a mood to upgrade right now... :/

In the meanwhile, look what I've found:

http://orcz.com/Fallout_4:_Recorded_Names_List



So you can call your character... Titties... it's one of the names which Codsworth will address you by...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A14ZT8I/?tag=tec06d-20

:)
 
That's lovely but I need tri-channel ;)

Which is fine, I was just showing there's an option out there that you can use.

Buy three of the smaller sticks, Still will work well for you.
 
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