AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition Detailed

[95Viper]

I prefer ForceWare, but Detonator will do fine as well...

I thought ForceWare was a MS thing.

 

[Uplink10]

I thought ForceWare was a MS thing.

Next year when they start including Windows 10 as a recommended update and it will automatically force Windows 10 on you if you have automatic updating enabled.

 

[vacavalier]

CCC sucks. I have hated it for a long time. I still use AMD however.

I became a dedicated ATI/AMD GPU user when the "green machine" bought out Voodoo and ruined my then Voodoo GPU by denying Voodoo card owners further updates, way back when. Still kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth all these years later... Progress I guess?

I finally gave up on AMD GPUs, ending with my 5850 cross-fire setup last October, not because of the cards themselves (they were incredible, even with only having 1GB VRAM), but because of CCC issues.

Interesting to see how this new software will do... even though I'm running a 2-way GTX 970 SLI, I am still looking at an AMD GPU option as I'm looking to upgrade to 1440p.

 

[ZoneDymo]

I became a dedicated ATI/AMD GPU user when the "green machine" bought out Voodoo and ruined my then Voodoo GPU by denying Voodoo card owners further updates, way back when. Still kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth all these years later... Progress I guess?

I finally gave up on AMD GPUs, ending with my 5850 cross-fire setup last October, not because of the cards themselves (they were incredible, even with only having 1GB VRAM), but because of CCC issues.

Interesting to see how this new software will do... even though I'm running a 2-way GTX 970 SLI, I am still looking at an AMD GPU option as I'm looking to upgrade to 1440p.

Same as they did with Agia PhysX card owners then

 

[ZeDestructor]

I thought ForceWare was a MS thing.

Next year when they start including Windows 10 as a recommended update and it will automatically force Windows 10 on you if you have automatic updating enabled.

Oh you youngins...

The ForceWare branding was reduced significantly around driver series 170 iirc, and since then, aside from a mention in the about page of nvcpl, nothing (publicly) references ForceWare.

 

[Balkan Bloodpaw]

I saw Windows 10 but are they also including those who use Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 as well?

 

[GoldenX]

I hope AMD starts doing real Linux drivers, Windows 10 can start to be called Windows 1984. It would be good if in the near future I just choose a Linux distro, install Steam, and have the same catalogue and performance than Windows, without all the bad stuff.

 

[ZeDestructor]

I hope AMD starts doing real Linux drivers, Windows 10 can start to be called Windows 1984. It would be good if in the near future I just choose a Linux distro, install Steam, and have the same catalogue and performance than Windows, without all the bad stuff.

I wonder if you'll also stop using iOS or Android, or a whole heap of web services that do similarly in-depth tracking....

 

[Mussels]

I wonder if you'll also stop using iOS or Android, or a whole heap of web services that do similarly in-depth tracking....

paper books don't track you.

yet.

 

[Uplink10]

I wonder if you'll also stop using iOS or Android, or a whole heap of web services that do similarly in-depth tracking....

When I was using Android I did eveything I could to disable tracking and back then I was very suprised at how many people share their data freely with Google.

One can do what he can to limit the leak of his private data to data mining companies.

In my case that meant I had to use pirated version of premium apps even when I only wanted to use the free adware version (which I would block with firewall). Google didn't want me to download free application.

 

[GoldenX]

There is F-Droid for OSS Android apps, AdAway is one of them and it works like a charm, it only needs root access to modify the "hosts" file.
@ZeDestructor, what I mean is that it's easier on a phone, Windows doesn't even have the options.

 

[Mussels]

its the 20th here, so bring on the new drivers!

 

[ZeDestructor]

paper books don't track you.

yet.

They already do: you finger them, leaving behind grease, sweat, ead skin cells and other stuff.

In that view, ebooks track you less, just saying.

When I was using Android I did eveything I could to disable tracking and back then I was very suprised at how many people share their data freely with Google.

One can do what he can to limit the leak of his private data to data mining companies.

In my case that meant I had to use pirated version of premium apps even when I only wanted to use the free adware version (which I would block with firewall). Google didn't want me to download free application.

It's a trade of privacy vs convenience, and for those of us aware of the cost, it's an active trade we make: I give them data about me, I get convenience or free stuff. Ads on the other hand I actively try and avoid, damn battery-draining, screen-wasting scum.

There is F-Droid for OSS Android apps, AdAway is one of them and it works like a charm, it only needs root access to modify the "hosts" file.
@ZeDestructor, what I mean is that it's easier on a phone, Windows doesn't even have the options.

F-Droid can already track a decent bit about you just from knowing your IP address and what you download, and if you install it's helpful installer/browser tool, it gets to read info about your various network connections, including mobile operator, SSIDs (wifi network names) and BSSIDs (AP MAC addresses).

On a related note, have you disabled Google Play services? There's a certain number of useful apps that require it nowadays, and it effectively has unlimited access to your android device.

 

[GoldenX]

I mean just download the apk, AdAway auto-updates the blacklists.
Yeah I did disable it, the default mail app and Firefox or the stock Android browser solves 95% of my needs. Now it's with services on, a normal Android phone, I needed them for a while, when I can I'm gonna disable them again.
Firefox OS is a good alternative to solve privacy problems on a budget (stupid Blackberries and Blackphones being too expensive), extra bonus, you can compile any unsuported version of the OS to the phone if it goes EoL. That or a dumbphone.

Back on topic, any news on shader cache to HDD, reduced CPU usage, or any new performance "upgrade" on the drivers? I know shader cache helps nicely on OpenGL, it would be nice to have it on Direct3D.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The only change I see that I appreciate and will use is "Hide System Tray" being two clicks away instead of four or five.

I don't really see any features in Crimson that I'd use. I just hope the download is much smaller. I hate big driver packages.

 

[Frick]

paper books don't track you.

yet.

 

[john_]

its the 20th here, so bring on the new drivers!

I was reading about 24th of November.

 

[Mussels]

I was reading about 24th of November.

whaaaat, i thought it was 20th

 

[john_]

I read it yesterday about the 24th, but doing a little googling about "amd crimson 24th" shows that it is a rumor that goes back to at least November the 5th.

Anyway, other than a new UI, I don't expect much. AMD continued posting Beta drivers and yesterday we had the introduction of 380X. If the new drivers where bringing any performance gains, I would had expected AMD to introduce first the Crimson drivers, and then 380X. Of course AMD has shown many times in the past, that they don't go along with logic on marketing.

 

[Mussels]

I read it yesterday about the 24th, but doing a little googling about "amd crimson 24th" shows that it is a rumor that goes back to at least November the 5th.

Anyway, other than a new UI, I don't expect much. AMD continued posting Beta drivers and yesterday we had the introduction of 380X. If the new drivers where bringing any performance gains, I would had expected AMD to introduce first the Crimson drivers, and then 380X. Of course AMD has shown many times in the past, that they don't go along with logic on marketing.

i'm expecting the same *drivers* but the new interface.

IIRC, i got excited because it looked like we could set per-game profiles with more options now.

 

[Octopuss]

I hope they won't screw it up with any major bugs.