TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Trekkie4]

Cool! Indeed, these other builds... They all come & go, but only one was here the whole time & makes all the difference to me & all of us who feel the same way

Just realized that I totally forgot to mention the specs. Not that it matters, I guess but why not

The actual PC was called "Open Space", it was a customized build from the computer store called "Adison"

It had (and still has) Chaintech 6BTM Slot-1 motherboard, Pentium II @ 350MHz Deschutes CPU, 1x 64Mb PC100 SD-RAM memory, ATI Rage IIC AGP with 8Mb of VRAM, Diamond Monster 3DII (Voodoo2) with 12Mb of VRAM, 6.4Gb Quantum Fireball 3.5" ATA HDD, Creative Sound Blaster 128 (PCI), Rockwell Dial-Up modem (PCI, has been replaced with generic new one recently since I lost the original one), BTC 36X CD-ROM drive (also lost, replaced with modern, black CD unit) & Sony 3.5" floppy (lost, replaced with modern, black Sony unit). Originally it had a standard Codegen 200W ATX PSU, but I've replaced few power supplies since then...

 

[stinger608]

So therefore this one should do the trick, 50-50. The idea is to dedicate 40GB to Win98 & another 40GB to XP...

@Trekkie4 , 40 gigs is a ton for Win 98. Heck, most of the apps and games in that era were only a couple hundred megabytes. I'd think that 25 or 30 gigs would be a ton for Win 98. I remember buying a 6 or 8 gig drive back then, for a ton of money LOL, and thought I'd never be able to fill it. LOLOLOL. Heck, I ended up getting a deal on a 20 gig drive about the time that UT2003 was released due to the games size.

 

[Trekkie4]

@Trekkie4 , 40 gigs is a ton for Win 98. Heck, most of the apps and games in that era were only a couple hundred megabytes. I'd think that 25 or 30 gigs would be a ton for Win 98. I remember buying a 6 or 8 gig drive back then, for a ton of money LOL, and thought I'd never be able to fill it. LOLOLOL. Heck, I ended up getting a deal on a 20 gig drive about the time that UT2003 was released due to the games size.

I know, and under the normal circumstances I'd agree with you on that one. However, I'm running 20-20(GB) config as we speak and my Win98 is seriously low on HDD space, even by "retro" standards. We are talking 20, maybe 30mb of free space Since this is my active retro gaming rig (active as in the ONLY retro rig which I actually use for retro gaming), I've installed pretty much every game I have. In fact, I keep on getting, buying & downloading more & more retro games every couple of months, so the amount of data only gets larger & larger. With several rigs featuring 20, 30 & 40GB HDDs, I'd say for sure that 20 GB is not enough. 30GB would hit the spot so to speak (without too much leftover space), while 40 would give me more than enough space for future growth & development Also, keep in mind that most of my games have been installed in "full" and not "small" or "compact" in order to reduce the loading speed.

Of course, back then was a whole other story, just as you pointed out As I mentioned in the post above, my original Pentium II had (and still has) Quantum Fireball HDD with only 6.4GB which seemed like the entire galaxy back in a day! Especially because my old 486, DX2 which I owned before P2 only had approx. 600Mb, maybe even less! Can't really complain, Fireball is awesome HDD to have but it's not even remotely big enough to have all the games pre-installed & ready to go, even if all of them were compact and/or small.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Might as well post a few pics of my Willamette rig:

This is the surgery I've done on the GPU BIOS chip. Pretty tricky but it works!

Motherboard with PSU (Delux ATX-450W P4) and GPU installed.

The 300W PSU I also bought

 

[Trekkie4]

Guys, I need some help over here... Been going through my box of "spares" & found long-lost Voodoo3 3500 which I bought about 2 yrs ago, for some symbolic price. The problem however is that I didn't get the appropriate VGA-output cable for this thing, so I never had the chance to see if it works or not I don't suppose anyone here knows how to hook (or modify) the original output jack to fit standard VGA one?

For those of you who don't know (or don't remember), 3500 was the best Voodoo3 card available, and it had integrated TV tuner into it. The only "problem" is that they've used unique shaped output port & included appropriate adapter cable, so that users can hook up to 2 monitors (+ SVideo), all through one output jack. It looks like standard DVI, except it has 4 (or 6, don't remember) extra pins, so therefore it's wider than DVI.

See, this here is EXACTLY what I need!!

 

[GreiverBlade]

Guys, I need some help over here... Been going through my box of "spares" & found long-lost Voodoo3 3500 which I bought about 2 yrs ago, for some symbolic price. The problem however is that I didn't get the appropriate VGA-output cable for this thing, so I never had the chance to see if it works or not I don't suppose anyone here knows how to hook (or modify) the original output jack to fit standard VGA one?

For those of you who don't know (or don't remember), 3500 was the best Voodoo3 card available, and it had integrated TV tuner into it. The only "problem" is that they've used unique shaped output port & included appropriate adapter cable, so that users can hook up to 2 monitors (+ SVideo), all through one output jack. It looks like standard DVI, except it has 4 (or 6, don't remember) extra pins, so therefore it's wider than DVI.

See, this here is EXACTLY what I need!!

DMS-59? https://www.google.ch/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=DMS-59


updates incoming ... i just need to take some photos ... i have exceptionally nice colleagues ... i got some freebies

 

[Trekkie4]

DMS-59? https://www.google.ch/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=DMS-59


updates incoming ... i just need to take some photos ... i have exceptionally nice colleagues ... i got some freebies

Thanks for the tip, but not quite what I'm looking for... Not sure, but I think 3dfx predates DVI design. As for DMS-59, if you take a closer look you'll see it only has pins, there's no tabs (flat contacts) anywhere.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Thanks for the tip, but not quite what I'm looking for... Not sure, but I think 3dfx predates DVI design. As for DMS-59, if you take a closer look you'll see it only has pins, there's no tabs (flat contacts) anywhere.

The board incorporates a combination connector (Vesa PnD) to which the external docking module (blue) is connected. This can also be used to select between S-video, Composite (cinch) and the audio connectors. The VGA monitor is connected to the extended connection (lower left in the figure).

The card features no VGA output, rather a 30-pin Plug & Display output port which has been used for Flat Panel displays in the past but now connects to the 3500's "break-out-box" which contains a split cable for an analog VGA input.
Voodoo3 3500 TV June 1999 Avenger 250 AGP 2x 16 183 183 1:0:2:1 183 183 366 0 2.928 SDR 128 6.0
The 2000 and 3000 boards generally differed in their support for TV output; the 3500 boards also carried a TV tuner and provided a wide range of video inputs and outputs.


seems to be proprietary then

edit:

soo .... i had the 3D Prophet 4000XT now i have the 4500 too! 4 card from Hercules from the 3D Prophet line in my GC collection


and i got a nice freebie in addition (from another colleague) unfortunately the ASUS P4PE was f.u.b.a.r (dead cap, i might try to re-cap but later if i find the time)but ... YAY for old school beige tower!

molex 4 pin additional connector? woohoo!


Mode Com Feel PSU? errrrrr....

 

[dorsetknob]

Not much help to you ""BUT i Got ONE"" and yours don't look like mine
edit

Ah thats a Blue Adapter placed on the card my mistake

Back to post #317 for the pictures

 

[GreiverBlade]

Not much help to you ""BUT i Got ONE"" and yours don't look like mine
edit

Ah thats a Blue Adapter placed on the card my mistake

Back to post #317 for the pictures

i love the "not an email adress" ... +1 ahah!

 

[dorsetknob]

2 monitors

sorry 1 monitor +S video

 

[dorsetknob]

i love the "not an email adress" ... +1 ahah!

there are dumbo's that just might think it is one so hence the warning

 

[dorsetknob]

@[URL='http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/members/trekkie4.154551/']Trekkie4[/URL]

are you in the States

if so this any use to you
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3dfx-Vood...378979?hash=item3f50d99f23:g:6VUAAOSwHnFVss14

 

[Trekkie4]

The board incorporates a combination connector (Vesa PnD) to which the external docking module (blue) is connected. This can also be used to select between S-video, Composite (cinch) and the audio connectors. The VGA monitor is connected to the extended connection (lower left in the figure).

The card features no VGA output, rather a 30-pin Plug & Display output port which has been used for Flat Panel displays in the past but now connects to the 3500's "break-out-box" which contains a split cable for an analog VGA input.
Voodoo3 3500 TV June 1999 Avenger 250 AGP 2x 16 183 183 1:0:2:1 183 183 366 0 2.928 SDR 128 6.0
The 2000 and 3000 boards generally differed in their support for TV output; the 3500 boards also carried a TV tuner and provided a wide range of video inputs and outputs.


seems to be proprietary then

edit:

soo .... i had the 3D Prophet 4000XT now i have the 4500 too! 4 card from Hercules from the 3D Prophet line in my GC collection
View attachment 69453

and i got a nice freebie in addition (from another colleague) unfortunately the ASUS P4PE was f.u.b.a.r (dead cap, i might try to re-cap but later if i find the time)but ... YAY for old school beige tower!
View attachment 69454 View attachment 69455
molex 4 pin additional connector? woohoo!
View attachment 69456 View attachment 69459 View attachment 69457

Mode Com Feel PSU? errrrrr....
View attachment 69460 View attachment 69462

Sooo, what you're basically saying is that I'm screwed ... right?

Not much help to you ""BUT i Got ONE"" and yours don't look like mine
edit

Ah thats a Blue Adapter placed on the card my mistake

Back to post #317 for the pictures

Oh man, I'm SERIOUSLY drooling over those pics! And the box, too?! Seems to be in mint condition, every 3dfx collector's dream!

sorry 1 monitor +S video

Right, sorry... My mistake, I never actually had one of these before, or even got to see it in action! I'm glad I actually have one in my collection, but that's about as good as it gets - I have no idea if it works or not.

@Trekkie4

are you in the States

if so this any use to you
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3dfx-Vood...378979?hash=item3f50d99f23:g:6VUAAOSwHnFVss14

Nope, sorry. EU I'm afraid. Technically, I COULD buy it online & have them ship V3 to Croatia where I live, but postage would be 99$ + 22$ for the actual card, not worth it... Not to mention I wouldn't be able to afford it at the moment

 

[dorsetknob]

thats a shame and if i was to lend you my breakout Cable it would cost roughly the same for return postage
so that rules that out

 

[stinger608]

@Trekkie4

are you in the States

if so this any use to you
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3dfx-Vood...378979?hash=item3f50d99f23:g:6VUAAOSwHnFVss14

Hmm, I don't get it though. The ebay listing is a .co.uk URL? Yet it says its located in Charlotte NC. I just checked shipping to Wyoming and its showing some ungodly price of $25.56!!!

Soooooo, that makes it a $50 nostalgic card............Just can't justify that one. If it was the $22 and $12 to $15 shipping I'd have someone grab it for me. That would be an awesome addition to my nostalgic collection.

 

[dorsetknob]

used ebay,co.uk ( because i'm in old blighty ) and done a global search
then posted only result returned

I would presume a US ebay Search would find the same listing and give US shipping rates to a US location

 

[stinger608]

Yep, it is listed in a US listing as well. Same exact shipping amount.

 

[dorsetknob]

then you could make offer ? and in offer query the postage ( you should have an idea of whats a fair postage to your location )

 

[stinger608]

LOL, yea I'd have to have someone I know do that. I don't have an Ebay account anymore since battling with them years ago in court............And of course I won the case so not account for me.

 

[dorsetknob]

well since @Trekkie4 is not in a position to aquire the card i'm sure he will not mind if you take steps to aquire this Gem

let us know if it works out for you

Ps i dont need it as i got one

 

[GreiverBlade]

Hmm, I don't get it though. The ebay listing is a .co.uk URL? Yet it says its located in Charlotte NC. I just checked shipping to Wyoming and its showing some ungodly price of $25.56!!!

Soooooo, that makes it a $50 nostalgic card............Just can't justify that one. If it was the $22 and $12 to $15 shipping I'd have someone grab it for me. That would be an awesome addition to my nostalgic collection.

50chf is not a stop for me when it come to "semi nostalgic" card like a 8800Ultra or a 4870/3870 (tho most of my cards, i got them for 1 to 10chf max, except the 8800Ultra )

also Wyoming ... now i know why i think TPU Nostalgic hardware thread when i play world of warships ...

well ... launched in 1912 (it's the remodel 1935 hull i have) can say it's "virtually nostalgic" and hardware too ... pretty hard ... at war(e) (lame joke i know)

from my side i have a account but i am also in EU (while not in EU ... ) the card + shipping make 103.83chf for me

 

[dorsetknob]

no need to win it ... it's a 25$

You misread @stinger608 post
He had a dispute with Ebay which was eventualy resolved in his favour ( He WON dispute ) and not if he won item in Aution

 

[GreiverBlade]

You misread @stinger608 post
He had a dispute with Ebay which was eventualy resolved in his favour ( He WON dispute ) and not if he won item in Aution

ahhhh... my bad

 

[Trekkie4]

thats a shame and if i was to lend you my breakout Cable it would cost roughly the same for return postage
so that rules that out

True, I absolutely agree! Thanks anyway

Hmm, I don't get it though. The ebay listing is a .co.uk URL? Yet it says its located in Charlotte NC. I just checked shipping to Wyoming and its showing some ungodly price of $25.56!!!

Soooooo, that makes it a $50 nostalgic card............Just can't justify that one. If it was the $22 and $12 to $15 shipping I'd have someone grab it for me. That would be an awesome addition to my nostalgic collection.

Welcome to the club, now you know how I feel about most of ebay items Too bad really, I found some pretty awesome & rare 3dfx cards on ebay, but their shipping cost is just too darn expensive!

Yep, it is listed in a US listing as well. Same exact shipping amount.

Yes, I believe all Ebay domains are international, as in they'll all display the same search results. Could be wrong though.

well since @Trekkie4 is not in a position to aquire the card i'm sure he will not mind if you take steps to aquire this Gem

let us know if it works out for you

Ps i dont need it as i got one

Of course I won't! As long as you remember to post the pics in this topic, of course - otherwise I'll get seriously upset