Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[rtwjunkie]

New start menu finally has built up enough frustration that I'm thinking about rolling back to Win7.

Just install Start10 by Stardock. No reason to be so dramatic as to go back to another OS for just a start menu when you can have it customizable like.you want, including W7 style.

 

[silentbogo]

Just install Start10 by Stardock. No reason to be so dramatic as to go back to another OS for just a start menu when you can have it customizable like.you want, including W7 style.

There are some other issues, like horrible navigation through network and sharing center and some driver issues, so the roll-back was eventual. Maybe I'll get back to 10 when I build a Skylake PC at the end of this year, but this was an expected outcome. $5 for Start10 is a minor expense, but I would like to see Microsoft implementing "Classic" or "Win7" start menu appearance somewhere in theme or taskbar settings.

Still gonna use it on my second desktop, though. It is much less powerful than my primary PC, but the hardware is newer (A4-5300B/4GB DDR3/500GB HDD/iGP). Only needed to install AMD drivers for chipset, but otherwise everything works out of the box, including the WiFi adapter. Performance is also fairly good, considering it only has 4GB of RAM and a very slow 5400rpm laptop HDD as a primary storage (SSD is on its way).

 

[Devon68]

Well the fact that a game called Killer Instinct is going to be a Windows 10 only title kind of pisses me off, but then again I'm sure a crack or a workaround will be made for it in time.
I'm still happy with windows 7 and don't feel like moving to windows 10 yet.

 

[R-T-B]

Well the fact that a game called Killer Instinct is going to be a Windows 10 only title kind of pisses me off, but then again I'm sure a crack or a workaround will be made for it in time.

If it's written completely in a DirectX 12 codepath (the most likely reason for exclusivity), not likely.

DirectX 12 is really the only feature Windows 10 has that makes me use it. Frustrating but true.

 

[Octopuss]

DirectX 12 is really the only feature Windows 10 has that makes me use it. Frustrating but true.

That's precicely the (only) reason why I will upgrade. I just hope it won't be anytime soon. The naive idiot in me still hopes Microsoft will listen to some of the feedback it gets and improve some of the most annoying things people coming from Windows 7 complain about by then.

At this point I don't even give a shit about all the privacy/spyware stuff anymore. I just want the damn thing to have useful interface that's not so flat I can't figure out where to click.

 

[Ithanul]

Well the fact that a game called Killer Instinct is going to be a Windows 10 only title kind of pisses me off, but then again I'm sure a crack or a workaround will be made for it in time.
I'm still happy with windows 7 and don't feel like moving to windows 10 yet.

It ain't the only game. They announced Recore is going to be 10 only. Sorry, but DX12 not going to make me move to 10. I got a big enough backlog I can play for years.

Plus, just discover Kritia for Linux and the fact Wacom tablets can work on it. So I can do digital art over on that OS now.

 

[silentbogo]

If it's written completely in a DirectX 12 codepath (the most likely reason for exclusivity), not likely.

Doubt that. It is an XBox store exclusive [most likely] developed by Iron Galaxy Studios (see Arkham Origins, Arkham Knight, Destiny PS3 port) in 2013, which means that [most likely] it is still a DX11 title and exclusivity is forced by microsoft as another way to boost Win10 adoption rate.
Same thing goes for ReCore (MS Studios again).

 

[R-T-B]

At this point I don't even give a shit about all the privacy/spyware stuff anymore. I just want the damn thing to have useful interface that's not so flat I can't figure out where to click.

It's honestly not that bad in 10. It's just not that great either.

 

[Octopuss]

It's honestly not that bad in 10. It's just not that great either.

I tried It's horrible. I mean why did Microsoft have to hardcode the style so much? If it was easily moddable into regular classic theme, people would complain a LOT less. Heck I wouldn't even miss Aero (which I love and prefer) that much then.

 

[R-T-B]

I tried It's horrible. I mean why did Microsoft have to hardcode the style so much? If it was easily moddable into regular classic theme, people would complain a LOT less. Heck I wouldn't even miss Aero (which I love and prefer) that much then.

Personal preference I guess. It certainly is too hardcoded.

 

[jboydgolfer]

ive been on and off of Win10 about 4-6 times now, depending on my mood, and as of the last 1 &1/2 months ive been running it again, my Main issue with it is the damn taskbar constantly getting "stuck". it must be notification based, because if i go through my "hidden" icons, and right click them all, it will go away, and back to auto-hide , until it happens all over again (roughly 10 or so times a day)

SO happy i have made a back-up of All my PC's Win 7 OS' before the 10 switch. that taskbar thing is gonna happen on the wrong day, and After smashing my keyboard, Ill likely switch back again. Also i always get "failed" updates, and am required to go into device manager to manually do them, and although they work via that route, it still a pain.

 

[Slizzo]

Win 10, still as flawless for me as ever (except for the times where the notification center and other various built-in apps decide to not play well).

Not a big issue for me, I don't really use the built in apps at all really, and certainly don't do much on start menu/screen. If I need something in start, I just press the key on my keyboard and start typing, that will bring up what I need faster than anything.

 

[alucasa]

Been on Win10 Pro for about 2 months now. I don't have much problems with it. I let it do updates or whatever as it likes. I don't care. Though there are little annoying messages that pop up once in a while in bottom right corner.

Since I don't play much games, being on my favorite unix distro, Fedora, is certainly an option although I'd be limited by apps I could use on Unix... I loathe the idea of dual OS, so Win 10 it is. And there is a Korean program I must use in order to download Korean TV shows... which runs only on Windows and IE. (Not Edge compatible)

Though I've been toying an idea of making my media rig run on Fedora. My rendering rig is also on Fedora at the moment.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I found out what was causing my taskbar locking into the Showing position.. It's the damn realtek icon, for when i plug headphones in, which is regularly. Seriously Window? I know i plugged headphones in, I plugged then in, I dont need you to lock my taskbar until i right click the damn red speaker icon. REALLY wish there was a way to stop that.

 

[rtwjunkie]

You cant set your taskbar icons to "always hide"?

 

[dorsetknob]

Another hidden change to the nagware update discovered

RoTM Windows 7 and 8 installations are finding new ways to re-enable Microsoft’s intrusive “Get Windows 10” nagware, even when users disable it.

An additional background process has been detected that resets the Registry’s AllowOSUpgrade flag twice a day. Prophylactic measures taken by users to disable the nagware – such as these – therefore have limited use. The additional process has only been found by some users, and appears to arrive in a modified version of the KB patch which unleashes GWX.
The latest changes are documented nicely by tech scribe Woody Leonhard, here. Larger enterprise users are not eligible for Windows 10 upgrades, so don’t receive the GWX nagware that’s been plaguing Home and Professional Edition users for six months.
This can either mean one of two things, neither of which is good.
One is that Microsoft is changing the payload of the GWX nagware patch without documenting the changes. If the contents of a KB patch changes, then a new patch should be issued, and the older one retired, particularly if the newer version of the patch spawns new processes.
The other possibility is that the aggressive GWX program is mutating, and may be close to achieving sentience. GWX already fulfils many of the characteristics of an aggressive malware. Stylistically, the pop-up appears to be modelled after the nasties found on pirate media and porn sites – a pretty classy touch from Microsoft.
Similarities include: GWX won’t take "No" for an answer, and is difficult to disable. It targets old and neglected computer installations (e.g. Windows 7), and the technically naive (home Windows users). More worryingly, GWX now appears to be mutating, changing its techniques in response to preventive measures. It’s cat and mouse out there, and GWX appears to be winning.
The next stage of mutation would be for GWX to make the leap across species. The first signs of this would be cash machines reminding you to “Get Windows 10”.
Pretty soon almost anything with a CPU and display will be reminding you that you’re eligible for a Windows 10 upgrade. And that could only be the start. What if now-sentient, species-hopping Get Windows 10 pop-up mates with the MacKeeper popup? Or The Economist?
Surely the era of self-replicating grey goo feared by computer pioneers including Bill Joy, and HRH The Prince of Wales, is almost upon us? All of this is possible, if you only think hard enough.

story
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/0...ows_10_nagware_is_showing_signs_of_sentience/

 

[Ithanul]

Hmmm, Home and Pro is getting nagged like crazy huh? Wonder if that the reason my Ult version don't see nagging.

 

[RejZoR]

Now that I've replaced shitty Windows 10 Windows Update with Windows Update MiniTool, it feels sooooo much better. It really "fixed" (replaced) the last seriously broken thing in Win10.

 

[Ahhzz]

services.msc
windows update ---- > Disabled
problem -------> solved.

 

[RejZoR]

services.msc
windows update ---- > Disabled
problem -------> solved.

No it's not "solved". Not updating system isn't solving anything. In fact it's creating problems... Don't know why would you disable updating...

 

[Mussels]

The only reason to stay on an older version of windows, is if you have 4GB or less ram, since W10 uses more than W7/8

WUMT is great even on the older OS's, just disable the built in windows update and only get the updates you want with no sneaky crap.

 

[Octopuss]

The only reason to stay on an older version of windows, is if you have 4GB or less ram

O'RLY? How about when someone finds the new version look like shite to the point of having problems finding where the damn icons in all that flat mess are, and with completely messed up settings that are illogically scattered all over the place?

 

[Mussels]

O'RLY? How about when someone finds the new version look like shite to the point of having problems finding where the damn icons in all that flat mess are, and with completely messed up settings that are illogically scattered all over the place?

Then you spend 5 minutes and learn the new locations, like people do with every new linux OS, mac OS, windows OS, android OS, and iOS update.

You can access 99% of things by either typing the first three letters in the start menu, or right clicking the start menu. Its easier and faster than every previous version of windows and a hell of a lot better than relying on muscle memory and finding something buried 6 menus deep.

 

[Octopuss]

Why would I? I prefer what I'm used to for 10+ years. Certainly not with every new version.

 

[Ahhzz]

No it's not "solved". Not updating system isn't solving anything. In fact it's creating problems... Don't know why would you disable updating...

So far, I've been running this Win 7 box for over 5 years, and haven't "created problems". Not one. Not a single one. I update my drivers when I need, don't use IE except maybe 3 times a year when some program or other is specifically coded to call it, or to test something, and I run just fine, thank you very much. So, yes, "solved". No windows 10 prompts, no buggy updates, and, Wow Would you look at that?!! I've not been hacked!!