TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[thebluebumblebee]

It's basically pointless to buy winter tires in Texas and they handle no different than my all season tires on ice which is basically all we get here. Inches of straight ice.

That's not true. While NOTHING is good on ice, the new winter tires are much better than AS's. Do an Internet search....

 

[hat]

That's nice and all... but I can't barely afford wiper blades, let alone a set of new tires. The tires I have are pretty new and still have good treads, though. Only thing I can do is keep it slow and steady and pay extra attention to feeling how my car handles the road.

 

[PP Mguire]

That's not true. While NOTHING is good on ice, the new winter tires are much better than AS's. Do an Internet search....

The benefit is not worth the cost to use them once a year if that. I suspect you missed the part where I said in Texas. We get a good amount of ice maybe once every 2-3 years.

 

[[Ion]]

Shall we discuss something else?

Back to WCG, I managed to get some spare motherboard standoffs so that I can start assembling the 2P G34 systems. I will still need to get some electrical tape, since the SM boards don't quite conform to eATX standards, but I can make it to the hardware store this week.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I found a reason to not liking living in the country as opposed to the city. 2.5 feet of snow and we have a very long driveway. About an 1/8 mile long. I had to hire some dude to plow it and he got stuck 3 times. The last time he almost had to call someone to pull him out. Supposed to rain Tuesday so maybe it will melt most of this. I live on a big hill so the water will run off down the back of the property into the woods somewhere.

 

[Nordic]

I am thinking about upgrading my mini itx haswell system from an intel pentium to an i7. Originally I was planning on doing a 4790s for $250 new. It goes up to 4ghz turbo and has a 55w TDP, 10w lower than the pentium. I could probably get a 4790k for $250 also which goes up to a much desired 4.4ghz with further potential overclocking, but is a 95w cpu.

As you can see, although I have a big heatsink, I have don't have much in the terms of space. My cpu stays at about 35c underload but my 750ti reaches 75c underload as is with the pentium underload. I was even thinking about upgrading the 750ti to a mini 970 in the future. I am not sure that is possible with a bigger cpu also.

I am kind of worried that if I add a bigger cpu, my gpu will get cooked. I would just down volt the 4790k, but my motherboard does not allow overclocking features with windows 10.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Quit stressing over 50 watts!

 

[Nordic]

Slap! Quit stressing over 50 watts!

Its not the power usage I am worried about, but the thermal load. The cpu will be fine, but I am worried that a bigger cpu will make the gpu get too hot. Not to mention if I do upgrade to a 970.

 

[[Ion]]

That's a ginormous cooler...surely it would be fine ?

 

[Nordic]

Again, its not the cpu but the gpu I am worried about. The cooler can keep the cpu temps under control. The gpu lacks airlflow.

 

[manofthem]

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That's a mighty fine mini-pc right there!

I have a 4770k @4.3 and a 4790 @3.8, and the differences averages out to be about <1k PPD (7day avg 600ppd diff; rac 1k diff). While my numbers tend to such compared to others (running Windows compared to Linux and other factors), I think I'd go with the 4790. I ubdervolted mine as well as far as I could, and it's been solid

 

[Nordic]

I think the case needs more modding. I found this example of someones work on the same case. I already modded it by installing that handle. I don't need a fan up there, but if I simply added some ventilation for the gpu to intake air I think that would help a lot. I might try to put that small 80mm fan holes around the back part of the handle because that is where the gpu fan is.

Unrelated, but I thought my cooler was big for this case. Look at this sucker.

Spoiler

 

[thebluebumblebee]

What case is that?

 

[T.R.]

What case is that?

Metis?

 

[mstenholm]

Again, its not the cpu but the gpu I am worried about. The cooler can keep the cpu temps under control. The gpu lacks airlflow.

Can't you strap a 140 mm fan on the grill?

Edit: Just opened the Metris link provide by T.R. You removed the stock 120 mm to get room for the CPU cooler right? Still slap it (the 120 mm fan) on the outside and be done about.

 

[mstenholm]

That's not true. While NOTHING is good on ice, the new winter tires are much better than AS's. Do an Internet search....

Ask the Scandinavian people about tires.....sure winter tires - spiked or not beat a all season tire by 50 feet braking distance on ice/snow from 40 mph (don't ask for documentation, I'm on my way out to some snow covered place) . I understand living in Texas or other places with snow once in your lifetime winter tires is not something you think about/know about.

 

[Nordic]

Just opened the Metris link provide by T.R. You removed the stock 120 mm to get room for the CPU cooler right? Still slap it (the 120 mm fan) on the outside and be done about.

I purposefully did not put a fan there, because having 2 fans that ran at different speeds so close together made a weird noise. I am actually planning on sticking an empty 120mm fan casing there to act like a funnel to the first cpu fan.

I am going to need the vents up top for the gpu though. It is just air starved up there.

 

[mstenholm]

I purposefully did not put a fan there, because having 2 fans that ran at different speeds so close together made a weird noise. I am actually planning on sticking an empty 120mm fan casing there to act like a funnel to the first cpu fan.

I am going to need the vents up top for the gpu though. It is just air starved up there.

That could fix with a piece of Ø120 pipe. Ups I'm not making your small case look very pretty. Sorry I'm an engineer

 

[PP Mguire]

Ask the Scandinavian people about tires.....sure winter tires - spiked or not beat a all season tire by 50 feet braking distance on ice/snow from 40 mph (don't ask for documentation, I'm on my way out to some snow covered place) . I understand living in Texas or other places with snow once in your lifetime winter tires is not something you think about/know about.

I learned how to drive in winter weather in areas that get plenty of lakefront precip, I know a thing or two about it and have plenty of experience driving in it. The point that everybody tends to forget is that it would cost me the better part of 500-600 USD to use once maybe once every 2-3 years or upwards of 1200 if I want a spare set of wheels so I can cover them and hang them in the garage then hope they don't dry rot wasting that money. 50ft @ 40mph isn't much, because the assholes around you will make that pointless. Literally everybody here has all season tires. Sure, I may be able to stop slightly faster than others but I'll still get plowed from behind by an idiot who doesn't know HOW to drive on it let alone having all seasons. They will instinctively slam on their brakes and slide till they hit something, probably me. This is the #1 reason smart people simply don't drive in winter weather in the south. The last ice storm we had I drove to work the second day it was frozen over and was passed by a lifted truck doing probably 60mph while also on the cellphone. This guy went over a hill and there was somebody going way slower in his lane, he tried quickly changing lanes which made him slide sideways down the overpass into another car that happened to be in my lane. I let off the gas, and slowly made it to the right lane to bypass all the wreckage. You have people like that, people that hit their brakes for literally everything while doing 10mph, and the people who think it's ok to drive normal and stop quickly then slide across intersections usually into another car. So sure, it's funny to make fun of us who stay inside during this time but really it's the safest and cheapest way to insure safety to yourself and your vehicle. So hopefully that explains a bit why it's literally pointless to get winter tires in Texas. Slightly increased handling and stopping rates don't make others know how to drive in it.

@james888 You need ventilation of some sort be it air for the GPU or an exhaust to blow CPU heat out.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I was wondering what would happen if the push fan was removed from the CPU cooler, and a high volume intake fan put in that intake spot. The CPU would not get all of the air, and the "spill over" would help the GPU.

 

[Nordic]

@james888 You need ventilation of some sort be it air for the GPU or an exhaust to blow CPU heat out.

The case is designed as such that most of the air is ventilated through the power supply. Some is ventilated thought he side panel that is taken off for the picture. If I plan to upgrade the system I definitely need a whole in the top to give the gpu some air.

I was wondering what would happen if the push fan was removed from the CPU cooler, and a high volume intake fan put in that intake spot. The CPU would not get all of the air, and the "spill over" would help the GPU.

With those same fans I tried having the right side cpu fan as an intake instead and it did not change gpu temps at all. CPU temps did go up a little bit though.

 

[mstenholm]

I learned how to drive in winter weather in areas that get plenty of lakefront precip, I know a thing or two about it and have plenty of experience driving in it. The point that everybody tends to forget is that it would cost me the better part of 500-600 USD to use once maybe once every 2-3 years or upwards of 1200 if I want a spare set of wheels so I can cover them and hang them in the garage then hope they don't dry rot wasting that money. 50ft @ 40mph isn't much, because the assholes around you will make that pointless. Literally everybody here has all season tires. Sure, I may be able to stop slightly faster than others but I'll still get plowed from behind by an idiot who doesn't know HOW to drive on it let alone having all seasons. They will instinctively slam on their brakes and slide till they hit something, probably me. This is the #1 reason smart people simply don't drive in winter weather in the south. The last ice storm we had I drove to work the second day it was frozen over and was passed by a lifted truck doing probably 60mph while also on the cellphone. This guy went over a hill and there was somebody going way slower in his lane, he tried quickly changing lanes which made him slide sideways down the overpass into another car that happened to be in my lane. I let off the gas, and slowly made it to the right lane to bypass all the wreckage. You have people like that, people that hit their brakes for literally everything while doing 10mph, and the people who think it's ok to drive normal and stop quickly then slide across intersections usually into another car. So sure, it's funny to make fun of us who stay inside during this time but really it's the safest and cheapest way to insure safety to yourself and your vehicle. So hopefully that explains a bit why it's literally pointless to get winter tires in Texas. Slightly increased handling and stopping rates don't make others know how to drive in it.

@james888 You need ventilation of some sort be it air for the GPU or an exhaust to blow CPU heat out.

Should we make a winter tire tread ? I get your point. The current snow fall in parts of US shown on TV just made me think that winter tires does not sell well in US.

 

[PP Mguire]

Should we make a winter tire tread ? I get your point. The current snow fall in parts of US shown on TV just made me think that winter tires does not sell well in US.

Nah, but winter tires don't normally sell in the south for the obvious reasons.

 

[mstenholm]

Nah, but winter tires don't normally sell in the south for the obvious reasons.

The pictures I was referring to was from Washington and New York states. And that ends my rant in this forum thread. Sorry for not sticking to WGC.

But now that I'm here I have one Linux laptop running and the difference in CPU time and elapsed time is big and have been it for a long time, maybe since a mayor Ubuntu update. I cant see anything else mayor running in the background. The normal difference is around like this - 2.15 / 2.98. That is 38 % wasted time. Any?

 

[EvoX2008]

Can anyone please help?

Got Ubuntu installed, doing

sudo apt-get install boinc-manager boinc-client

And I get this:

unable to locate package boinc-manager
unable to locate package boinc-client



Much appreciated!