Far Cry Primal: Performance Analysis

SNM · Mar 2, 2016

Can I Play it, I have a 1080 monitor and R9 270x 2Gigs, For now I get 60 on adjusted settings for Crysis, Black Ops 3, Far Cry 4, AC Syndicate...

Or I have to wait for my nxt upgrade...

Kanan · Mar 2, 2016

SNM said:
Can I Play it, I have a 1080 monitor and R9 270x 2Gigs, For now I get 60 on adjusted settings for Crysis, Black Ops 3, Far Cry 4, AC Syndicate...

Or I have to wait for my nxt upgrade...

Sure, with lower settings. The review is with very high settings, the R7 370 has 30,2 fps in the review. 270X is as fast or faster than 370 (they are related, same GPU), also you can dial settings down a bit and achieve higher fps then it's no problem at all.

las · Mar 2, 2016

xkm1948 said:
1440p and 4K Fury X smashes 980Ti and Titan X. I am so happy I chose FuryX over 980Ti now. It was a tough decision but I'm glad I made the right decision.

Smashes? Heh.. It beats a reference 980 Ti with ~1 fps at 1440p, but loses with 5 fps at 1080p. 980 Ti custom cards are 20% faster out of the box, and easily gets 15-20% more performance from additional OC.

Meanwhile the Fury X barely overclocks.

Fury X
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/34.html
~5% performance gain from max OC.

980 Ti
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/26.html
~36% performance gain from max OC (compared to reference ofc).
Yes this is a Lightning, but all the other good custom cards reach the same overclocks, as you can see from the list.

It's funny how people are not aware of how good OC potential 980 Ti has. It overclocks and scales insane.

Ferrum Master · Mar 2, 2016

las said:
It's funny how people are not aware of how good OC potential 980 Ti has. It overclocks and scales insane.

So what? It really differs how the benchmark data is used and reasoned especially architecture wise? At stock per stock it performs like that. If you wish to make a benchmark using custom versions please be free to do so.

Lagittaja · Mar 2, 2016

However, it also comes with good multi-GPU support, so you should definitely consider a GeForce GTX 970 SLI setup over single-card solutions like the GTX 980 Ti or the R9 Fury X. We plan to make this game a regular game-test in our graphics card bench due to its incredible production design, good code, and great hardware support.

Really? ~70% scaling is "good"? Should be well above 80%. Excellent would be above 90%.
This game is hilariously broken for Day 1 performance considering patch + game ready drivers with SLI on 1080p or 1440p and only hammers a thread or two on the CPU..
And not even hilariously broken with SLI, in general just runs like dog shit.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Far-Cry-Primal-Spiel-56751/Specials/Benchmark-Test-1187476/
5820K@2.5Ghz with a few different active core / HT on-off configurations. 4C8T / 6C12T vs 6C6T especially worth noting.

TotalBiscuit's Titan SLI basically just splits the load 50/50 between the GPU's and does nothing to actually improve the performance vs running the single Titan..
"good code" mmright.

E: I might add that I've no desire to even play this, or any game for that matter, but I keep tabs on game releases and how they run.

rtwjunkie · Mar 2, 2016

chaosmassive said:
No DirectX 12?

Um, no, and nor should you expect many such games for awhile. This (plus the high pressure tactics they are using) is why there has not been a mass rush towards W10. DirectX 12 games (and really, completely compatible GPU) are just not available yet. It's going to be a long, slow adoption rate.

chaosmassive · Mar 3, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
Um, no, and nor should you expect many such games for awhile. This (plus the high pressure tactics they are using) is why there has not been a mass rush towards W10. DirectX 12 games (and really, completely compatible GPU) are just not available yet. It's going to be a long, slow adoption rate.

Im looking foward for DirectX 12 games, because of mix multi gpu setup,
surely one of GPU company will cripple that feature
so far AoS is only glimpse of what Directx 12 games is like.

what is 'high pressure tactics'? and who are 'they'?

7950 Flex · Mar 3, 2016

Good review! I have a 980 Ti Classy and i5 4670k (stock) I've tried OC'ing the i5 but couldn't get a stable OC and I have no clue what I'm doing beyond following a video guide so I'm just wondering if someone who has experience with this could tell me how much more fps would I get if I had the skylake CPU like in this review or even had my haswell i5 overclocked to 4.5ghz? I'm assuming it wouldn't be much of a difference but what do I know

Tsukiyomi91 · Mar 3, 2016

2.6GB max on FHD... not bad considering how good the engine is. Probably will get this game & crank most settings to High without AA for a more consistent avg fps.

rtwjunkie · Mar 3, 2016

chaosmassive said:
what is 'high pressure tactics'? and who are 'they'?

"They" are Microsoft. The high pressure tactics are the sneaky way they try to force W10 on people.

They gave people a year to upgrade for free. We have a large thread here on TPU that has hundreds of examples of Microsoft literally not caring that people have a personal choice. For a long time there was the GWX in the desktop tray (don't remember which update caused that). Then people uninstalled it. Twice in January I literally had my PC ready to upgrade, just waiting for me to click OK. The only reason it didn't is because I am on manual, not automatic update. Many people have horror stiries of the forced upgrade because they had auto updates on.

Now, for anyone looking at their updates this month (I look up all the non security ones up) MS introduced a new update that states it will make it easier to upgrade to W10, and lay all the groundwork for you. More sneakiness.

People, me included, want to upgrade when they want and how they want, not be forced. Others don't want the upgrade at all. Microsoft has acted like a low-class loan company, not a world corporate leader.

I could be alot more detailed but need to get to work.

FYFI13 · Mar 3, 2016

The graphics are "so-so", 2012ish. Why the heck it runs so bad on high-end cards?

Jborg · Mar 3, 2016

Just picked this game up yesterday. Couldn't help myself. Very much drawn to this style of game in the past, its a nice change from the normal.

For me, the game is running fantastic, set the graphics preset to Very High and my FPS did not move from 60FPS, and VRAM sat around 2.7G.

EarthDog · Mar 3, 2016

Was that at 1080p Jborg? System specs confuse me a bit... LOL!

Jborg · Mar 3, 2016

EarthDog said:
Was that at 1080p Jborg? System specs confuse me a bit... LOL!

Correct 1080P playing on just one screen

the54thvoid · Mar 3, 2016

Ferrum Master said:
So what? It really differs how the benchmark data is used and reasoned especially architecture wise? At stock per stock it performs like that. If you wish to make a benchmark using custom versions please be free to do so.

@Kanan linked a very nice review in his post that does just so. Thing is, Fury X only exists as stock whereas 980ti has a massive custom market - far bigger than stock. It's also very hard to get a reference 980ti cheaper than a custom that is considerably faster. Rationally, you'd be a fool to spend more money on a slower 'stock' model. There's a reason they sell so well. Most custom's hit 15-20% (1500Mhz) above stock.

xkm1948 said:
1440p and 4K Fury X smashes 980Ti

*cough*

1440p

And at 4k.

xkm1948 said:
I am so happy I chose FuryX over 980Ti now. It was a tough decision but I'm glad I made the right decision.

I feel the same about my 1500Mhz 980ti.

Brusfantomet · Mar 3, 2016

the54thvoid said:
If there is a crossfire profile you'll find Fury X CF dominating.... 295x2 would be dust in comparison.

But two 390x or 290x are in the same price range as two 970, wile the Fury x is somewhat more expensive.

Kanan · Mar 4, 2016

rtwjunkie said:
"They" are Microsoft. The high pressure tactics are the sneaky way they try to force W10 on people.

They gave people a year to upgrade for free. We have a large thread here on TPU that has hundreds of examples of Microsoft literally not caring that people have a personal choice. For a long time there was the GWX in the desktop tray (don't remember which update caused that). Then people uninstalled it. Twice in January I literally had my PC ready to upgrade, just waiting for me to click OK. The only reason it didn't is because I am on manual, not automatic update. Many people have horror stiries of the forced upgrade because they had auto updates on.

Now, for anyone looking at their updates this month (I look up all the non security ones up) MS introduced a new update that states it will make it easier to upgrade to W10, and lay all the groundwork for you. More sneakiness.

People, me included, want to upgrade when they want and how they want, not be forced. Others don't want the upgrade at all. Microsoft has acted like a low-class loan company, not a world corporate leader.

I could be alot more detailed but need to get to work.

Yep. I'm still so glad I have Win 8.1 Enterprise installed, Enterprise doesn't have the Windows 10 upgrade "offer", so I never saw it on my system (but everywhere else, on many many PCs).

Brusfantomet said:
But two 390x or 290x are in the same price range as two 970, wile the Fury x is somewhat more expensive.

Two 390X are a very powerful CF setup, on the long run even better than 2x Fury X because they have more Ram. The Fury X will shortly be outdated or only a 1080p card, because games soon will need more than 4 GB for 1440p/4k and then the card starts to stutter, which is pretty bad. Saying this, the only Fiji I would recommend to anyone is the Nano, because it has a price justified for just having 4 GB of Ram and competes against GTX 980 pretty well + has lots of OC headroom (basically from 800-900 MHz to 1100 MHz continous clock).

nem · Mar 4, 2016

interesting so $1200(12GB) being beated in 2K and 4K for an gpu of $600($GB)

EarthDog · Mar 4, 2016

nem said:
interesting so $1200(12GB) being beated in 2K and 4K for an gpu of $600($GB)

There isn't one resolution that the 980Ti is beating the TitanX...

... it is CLOSE, certainly, and overclocked models can beat the TitanX, but that was well known since the 980Ti came out several months ago.

64K · Mar 4, 2016

EarthDog said:
There isn't one resolution that the 980Ti is beating the TitanX...

... it is CLOSE, certainly, and overclocked models can beat the TitanX, but that was well known since the 980Ti came out several months ago.

I think he meant the Titan X being beaten by the Fury X. He probably still held the shift key down after typing ( and typed a $ instead of a 4. nem spends considerable time on tech forums trying to show that AMD is better than Nvidia.

EarthDog · Mar 4, 2016

Heh, I remember that clown now... good call.

... bad call on my part thinking $ was ^(6)... ROFLMAO!!

1d10t · Mar 5, 2016

Neat...390 trailing very close behind 980.
Just wait till weekend to test crossfire by myself

*one game to another...Summer did EVERLASTING in Hawaii :roll:

TheGuruStud · Mar 6, 2016

It looks worse and performs much worse than FC4. It lugs through the more dense areas even on 1080. And don't even think about playing without anything except flagship cards. Even low settings can't save other cards.

Also, the map is identical to FC4, that's how worthless they are. Strip FC4 down and sell it for 60 bucks. It's amazing business model. They should call this the CoD version.

Tatty_Two · Mar 7, 2016

This thread is about the performance analysis for Far Cry primal, not sure what a NVidia/AMD comparison of a number of games that don't include this game has to do with things so please keep on topic, if anyone wants to highlight anything else please don't do it here.

Absolution · Mar 16, 2016

Brusfantomet said:
But two 390x or 290x are in the same price range as two 970, wile the Fury x is somewhat more expensive.

Speaking of which, why wasnt a crossfire benchmark included whereas the 970 SLI snuck in?

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Far Cry Primal: Performance Analysis

SNM

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

las

Ferrum Master

Lagittaja

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast

chaosmassive

7950 Flex

Tsukiyomi91

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast

FYFI13

Jborg

EarthDog

Jborg

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator

Brusfantomet

Kanan

Tech Enthusiast & Gamer

nem

EarthDog

64K

EarthDog

1d10t

TheGuruStud

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

Absolution

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