NVIDIA Releases first WHQL-signed GeForce Driver with Vulkan Support

Tsukiyomi91 · Mar 9, 2016

the clean install option in ForceWare does not actually clean the previous driver, but to only remove the profiles in the graphics settings. What @Harry Lloyd mention is currently the only safe, risk-free way to ensure your driver isn't screwed up. Sure it's longer & has a few steps in the way but it at least reduces the risk of giving u BSOD & other "scary" shit.

Xzibit · Mar 9, 2016

Remember Nvidia has said 90% of their users upgrade their drivers through GeForce Experience.

nem · Mar 9, 2016

john_ · Mar 9, 2016

Last year TechPowerUp published an ULTRA BIASED editorial about AMD not releasing enough WHQL drivers.

I am expecting in the next days to read a FAIR editorial about the WHQL stamp and Nvidia WHQL drivers.

Does this stamp really means better drivers? More stable drivers? or is Nvidia using this stamp for marketing reasons, knowing that they will just have to pay Microsoft to get it. Because these problems are so obvious that I wonder if Microsoft is just selling away that stamp and does no testing at all, before giving it.

Last years editorial about AMD's driver releases, was escalated from the tech press to a discussion about AMD's future. At the same time Nvidia followed with even more frequent driver releases trying to take advantege of all this fuss. Maybe it is a coincidence, but it is obvious that Nvidia is sacrificing driver stability here for marketing reasons.

the54thvoid · Mar 9, 2016

john_ said:
Last year TechPowerUp published an ULTRA BIASED editorial about AMD not releasing enough WHQL drivers.

I am expecting in the next days to read a FAIR editorial about the WHQL stamp and Nvidia WHQL drivers.

Does this stamp really means better drivers? More stable drivers? or is Nvidia using this stamp for marketing reasons, knowing that they will just have to pay Microsoft to get it. Because these problems are so obvious that I wonder if Microsoft is just selling away that stamp and does no testing at all, before giving it.

Last years editorial about AMD's driver releases, was escalated from the tech press to a discussion about AMD's future. At the same time Nvidia followed with even more frequent driver releases trying to take advantege of all this fuss. Maybe it is a coincidence, but it is obvious that Nvidia is sacrificing driver stability here for marketing reasons.

Here's a fair story.

The world is full of truly appalling acts of inhumanity and degradation. From religious war to child prostitution, from corruption to mass capitalism and failed states.

People cry over their cornflakes about fucking driver releases. They're not essential - the games actually still work. Tonnes of folks aren't using Crimson because they don't work and lots of folk don't update their NV drivers because the branch from months ago still works.

NEWSFLASH - Bad driver gets released - people read about it and still install it. Duh. Wait for fix (and next fix).

If you want a moral crusade about something worthwhile - go petition your government to do something meaningful. Bitching about your butt hurt feelings because of a bad editorial last year is just weak. Everyone makes mistakes - even TPU. Let it go.

john_ · Mar 9, 2016

the54thvoid said:
Here's a fair story.

The world is full of truly appalling acts of inhumanity and degradation. From religious war to child prostitution, from corruption to mass capitalism and failed states.

People cry over their cornflakes about fucking driver releases. They're not essential - the games actually still work. Tonnes of folks aren't using Crimson because they don't work and lots of folk don't update their NV drivers because the branch from months ago still works.

NEWSFLASH - Bad driver gets released - people read about it and still install it. Duh. Wait for fix (and next fix).

If you want a moral crusade about something worthwhile - go petition your government to do something meaningful. Bitching about your butt hurt feelings because of a bad editorial last year is just weak. Everyone makes mistakes - even TPU. Let it go.

Congrats and thank you. You opened my eyes.

EarthDog · Mar 9, 2016

john_ said:
Last year TechPowerUp published an ULTRA BIASED editorial about AMD not releasing enough WHQL drivers.

I am expecting in the next days to read a FAIR editorial about the WHQL stamp and Nvidia WHQL drivers.

Does this stamp really means better drivers? More stable drivers? or is Nvidia using this stamp for marketing reasons, knowing that they will just have to pay Microsoft to get it. Because these problems are so obvious that I wonder if Microsoft is just selling away that stamp and does no testing at all, before giving it.

Last years editorial about AMD's driver releases, was escalated from the tech press to a discussion about AMD's future. At the same time Nvidia followed with even more frequent driver releases trying to take advantege of all this fuss. Maybe it is a coincidence, but it is obvious that Nvidia is sacrificing driver stability here for marketing reasons.

do you know what is required for WHQL certification?

Here is a good read for you (hint - it has nothing to do with nvidia or amd paying anyone:https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff553976(v=vs.85).aspx

Breit · Mar 9, 2016

EarthDog said:
do you know what is required for WHQL certification?

Money?

THU31 · Mar 9, 2016

Poor AMD, they have no money to pay for WHQL drivers, and they have no money to bribe developers to gimp their games on NVIDIA cards. What a brutal world.

EarthDog · Mar 9, 2016

Wow...Make sure you are wearing tinfoil hats for your protection...

Perhaps if AMD got their collective heads out of their asses, focused less on marketing hype and more on the substance of their hardware, they wouldn't be in this position.

john_ · Mar 9, 2016

EarthDog said:
Wow...Make sure you are wearing tinfoil hats for your protection...

Perhaps if AMD got their collective heads out of their asses, focused less on marketing hype and more on the substance of their hardware, they wouldn't be in this position.

On other news, Nvidia that doesn't have their collective heads in their asses, they are more focused on drivers and less in marketing hype(LOL?), It looks like they have rolled back to 362.00 being the default driver version. : nvidia

EarthDog · Mar 9, 2016

Hey john_.... shit happens. Nothing is perfect bud. I recall some driver debacles out of BOTH camps in the past. At least with NVIDIA it isn't a reoccurring theme that threatens their existence as a company as is the marketing but no substance that AMD has become, the head up their ass..

THU31 · Mar 9, 2016

john_ said:
On other news, Nvidia that doesn't have their collective heads in their asses, they are more focused on drivers and less in marketing hype(LOL?), It looks like they have rolled back to 362.00 being the default driver version. : nvidia

Sure they have, why would they not take down the version which caused problems when installing it the wrong way?

The new beta is the same driver, with a fixed noobspress installer.

john_ · Mar 9, 2016

EarthDog said:
Hey john_.... shit happens. Nothing is perfect bud. I recall some driver debacles out of BOTH camps in the past. At least with NVIDIA it isn't a reoccurring theme that threatens their existence as a company as is the marketing but no substance that AMD has become, the head up their ass..

Nvidia mistake. Shit happens. Anyone objecting to that, wear your tinfoil hats.
AMD mistake. Do I have to comment?

EarthDog · Mar 9, 2016

john_ said:
Nvidia mistake. Shit happens. Anyone objecting to that, wear your tinfoil hats.
AMD mistake. Do I have to comment?

I can't speak for the rest of the lemmings here... but for myself, if this happened to AMD, yes, "shit happens" would still be my response. One can't test for every single setup! Again, I am not absolving them of this issue, but people jumped into conclusions that were a pretty far reach from what most would consider probable or reality.

If you took notice, my 'tin foil hat' statement was in reference to Harry Lloyd's post which talked about bribery for WHQL status (and breit for saying "money" - but his post wasn't directly above mine...should have quoted it).

EDIT:

Microsoft no longer requires a WHQL testing fee,

[4] which used to be USD $250 per operating system family.[5] This fee covers both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions, if submitted simultaneously, and is non-refundable. The fee does not include other expenses, such as a Windows Server 2008 x64 license, necessary for running WHQL tests, and a VeriSign certificate, necessary for submitting test results.[6]

Fluffmeister · Mar 9, 2016

Haters gonna hate EarthDog.

Breit · Mar 9, 2016

EarthDog said:
and breit for saying "money"

That wasn't exactly serious. I though you've guessed that.

But obviously thorough testing couldn't either be a requirement for a WHQL label. Otherwise this fairly obvious bug would've been discovered.

sammy · Mar 11, 2016

What are those images about, are those graphics produced by drivers specially the car one.

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NVIDIA Releases first WHQL-signed GeForce Driver with Vulkan Support

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