NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB

[BiggieShady]

They intentionally focus on the new cards, and this affects the older cards.

They are supposed to maintain different codepaths for all supported architectures in all critical segments being optimized ... I'd say someone over there doesn't know how to properly merge git branches .

 

[laszlo]

I have the feeling that AMD will win this round ...

Any news about their new cards release date?

if you mean taking the crown for fastest single gpu ? i don't think so...

will be a win for them launching a card within 980 perf. range but at much lower prices; not everyone afford to spend over 300$ for a gpu just because a new one hit the market

for me best bang for the buck decide next upgrade

i must congr. NV for this new card as perf. wise is like the new veyron

 

[RejZoR]

I don't think projections work that simple imo. Sure they say it's a single pass thing, but that doesn't mean it makes no performance hit or operates at perfect double rate than before. After all, you do have to process two different sets of pixels because they are shifted a bit (VR) or shifted a lot (multi monitor). In the end, you still have to process double the amount of pixels, it's just the way how GPU takes that from the scene which is now more efficient.

 

[matar]

I am so glad I waited and skipped Kepler i was going to buy Maxwell but was upset that 600 series & 700 & 900 and still on the 28nm so I skipped it and very happy I did the performance of the GTX 1080 its like NVidia skipped one full GTX series and gave us this wow of a performance with this pascal.
GTX 1070 is my next GPU can't wait...

 

[ivan375]

Waiting to see what Polaris is about. GTX 1080 and 1070 are nice but expensive and overkill for a single 1080p panel.

 

[mroofie]

GTX1080 performs 32% better from stock 980Ti at 4K and 1440P and 36% better at 1080P.

He said 980

 

[mroofie]

NVIDIA has placed the bar high. Here comes AMD...

I hope not but I am a realist.

after what happened last time Im inclined to agree

 

[mroofie]

Waiting to see what Polaris is about. GTX 1080 and 1070 are nice but expensive and overkill for a single 1080p panel.

Lmao

 

[Nosada]

i must congr. NV for this new card as perf. wise is like the new veyron

One can only hope AMD somehow pulls of a Kawasaki H2R.

 

[Warrgarbl]

As awesome as this card is it worries me that Nvidia is on its way to a de-facto monopoly in the GPU market. The first sign of that is the Founder edition. If AMD can't put out a product that can compete we are going to have a lot more price gouging and other bullshit by Nvidia coming for us. That being said it really IS an awesome card.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Hmm, I will have to go re-read!
If they cheaped out, instead of alloy shroud like they used to use, that would make the $100 premium even less explainable.

even with an alloy it would still be non-explainable, it's the exact same shroud as the 9XX series with a more edgy design, nvidia only did that because their previous iteration got good impression about, and now they want to charge 100$ more for early adopter...

Nobody is forcing you to buy Founders Edition. Wait a few weeks and get a cheaper custom card. It's not like every 1080 will be priced at $699 and above.

yeah right because custom cards from AIB will be priced lower than the reference model (founders ed. is only the reference model thus being the reference price.) 699$ is the reference price albeit nvidia "saying" the msrp will be 599$ and also AIB, most of the time, price their custom above MSRP so even if they follow nvidia about the MSRP they will not be cheaper.

AMD cards with 8GB of VRAM were all using Hawaii, which doesn't have enough horsepower to drive the higher resolutions/VR that would actually use that extra VRAM. Pascal does, hence why the 8GB is actually useful.

well the 295x2 could use 8gb for each chips ... so a 8gb 390X CFX would be enough then, since those 8gb was meant for VR/4K but in CFX ... ok technically being useful only in case of a multiGPU can make it pass for a cons.

 

[trog100]

very impressive.. especially the low power usage.. but i think the "founders edition" trick is just a way of making the new card seem cheaper than what it really is.. the real price will be $699 and not $599..

a new model 980 that comes in more expensive than the old model 980 TI dosnt look that good.. they are cleverly trying to hide the fact.. he he

trog

 

[medi01]

Pascal does

Mostly 1440p.

Nobody is forcing you to buy Founders Edition. Wait a few weeks...

Why weeks? Why not wait a few month and claim "that" is the true release price (whatever the price will be by that time).

I feel sorry for AMD, even their own fanboys compare this to the 980 Ti.

Aristotle is rolling is his grave, as The (n)Grandmaster of (n)Logic has spoken.

PS
980Ti is the best card of previous generation, it was released to spoil Fury launch (and it did spoil it quite well). On stock it is hardly spectacular, but OCed into sky it trounces anything in previous gen and spoils 1080 with its pathetic 12% OC.

PPS
10x Maxwell, dude.
2.5 Titan at VR.
For mere 599$ or less, some day.
Peace & Harmony.

 

[Fluffmeister]

You're damn right the 980 Ti was the best card, glad to see everyone finally accepting that.

But you go girl, fight the power!

 

[Frick]

i must congr. NV for this new card as perf. wise is like the new veyron

Nope. Not even close. This is like a new Opel, tops. A Veyron would have to be a super-limited quad card running at 2.5 Ghz and scaling perfectly in every game ever made, and being inaudible to boot.

What it in reality is, is a new GPU with above all great effeciency and decent power, which is only what it should be.

 

[Basard]

Interesting, it's even better than I expected.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I thought I had read that the fan shroud was plastic, nice if it is an alloy of some kind.

I found a little explanation. Magnesium alloy. So, fitted firmly to the pcb, like the 780, etc...it is all the support that pcb needs. https://techarx.com/nvidia-gtx-10801070-a-look-after-cooler-shroud-taken-apart/

 

[Valdas]

Why weeks? Why not wait a few month and claim "that" is the true release price (whatever the price will be by that time)

Whatever floats your boat. You should remember that MSRP for 980 Ti at it's launch day was $650 while MSRP for 1080 is $599. You should be able to get this "beauty" at around that price on day one.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Whatever floats your boat. You should remember that MSRP for 980 Ti at it's launch day was $650 while MSRP for 1080 is $599. You should be able to get this "beauty" at around that price on day one.

Except, you are comparing a card made with the mid-level gp104 to the previous gen flagship. The real price comparison should be the 980.

With the price coming in not very far under the 980 Ti, and way above the 980, whose place in the lineup the 1080 occupies, it's not a good buy monetarily at all.

 

[Valdas]

Except, you are comparing a card made with the mid-level gp104 to the previous gen flagship. The real price comparison should be the 980.

With the price coming in not very far under the 980 Ti, and way above the 980, whose place in the lineup the 1080 occupies, it's not a good buy monetarily at all.

You're correct, but medi01 insist on comparing it with 980 Ti, so same should be applied to price, not just the performance.
980 was priced at $549 MSRP, so we're getting ~60% more performance for ~10% higher price when compared to 980.

 

[Caring1]

Whatever floats your boat. You should remember that MSRP for 980 Ti at it's launch day was $650 while MSRP for 1080 is $599.

Except the reference 1080 is $699 and the partners most likely won't undercut that by much, if at all.
To be realistic it wouldn't make sense for partners to put money in to new designs and sell cheaper.

 

[Valdas]

Except the reference 1080 is $699 and the partners most likely won't undercut that by much, if at all.
To be realistic it wouldn't make sense for partners to put money in to new designs and sell cheaper.

True to that as well. But with 1080 we have two price points, not one, so it's not entirely correct to pick the highest either. In the end everyone has their own preferences, I'll be looking for Gigabyte Extreme Gaming few weeks later (rumor).

 

[newconroer]

Also VirtualBox sessions keep my Titan X spun up. The 960 (used one for a while, it's in the htpc now) was nice in that it hurt a lot less this way (heating up my room upstairs). Reduced power would be a nice reason to swap out for a 1080. I don't really need a new card though ...

Is that on a server box or ..picturing the use of a high end graphics card in Virtualbox.

WHY DO YOU NOT SHOW US THE MINIMUMS! WE NEED MINIMUM NUMBERS!

YOUR ENTIRE REVIEW IS USELESS AND A WASTE OF TIME!

Erm Wizz is a bit old school and not in a good way...

 

[Aquinus]

AMD cards with 8GB of VRAM were all using Hawaii, which doesn't have enough horsepower to drive the higher resolutions/VR that would actually use that extra VRAM. Pascal does, hence why the 8GB is actually useful.

No, the reasoning was that nothing really could take advantage of 8GB, not that it can't use it. I've seen some games use more than 4GB on my 390 and it runs just fine but, there are other GPUs that use upto 3GB or 4GB that still run just as well. W1zz has even stated that most games, even at 4k don't tend to need more than 4GB yet but, there are games that will use it if it's there. The problem with saying that Hawaii doesn't have the ability to drive the VRAM because it depends on the workload. Generally speaking, it isn't compute that takes up a lot of VRAM, it's textures, and Hawaii has quite a large number of TMUs and has some pretty significant texturing capability. I was able to play Farcry 4 in surround with AA off without too much problem and there were occasions where I used just over 4GB. Same deal with Elite Dangerous, in some situations (with the 64-bit client,) more than 4GB of VRAM could be used, in fact I saw usages almost as high at 5GB but, that isn't to say the GPU needs all of it at once or that the 390 can't handle it.

Either way, I still want to know the reasoning behind 8GB not being a con. It's either because nVidia is doing it which now makes it "normal," or games have evolved enough where 8GB can actually provide some level of tangible benefits.

Also, even if I were to play devil's advocate and say that the 390 can't handle 8GB worth of whatever gets put in there, I would argue that wouldn't be the case in CFX as I can attest to personal experience that more memory for multi-GPU setups is generally a good thing having come from CFX 6870s.

 

[medi01]

Tell me, guys, why labels matter to you.

If 1080 was called "3.1415" would you suddenly be comparing it to a, uh, oh, something else?

To which AMD card will you compare it, to one with "80" in it, or one that is priced accordingly?

Price is the ultimate metric that tells you what tier a card really is.
And 699$/789€ (fuck you, nZilla) 1080 is in a tier of its own, between 980Ti and Titanium X.