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Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Now that W10 is out, are you a W7/W8 refusenik?

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Can I do an upgrade from Win7 and change the serial to a Windows 10 key? So I get to keep the Windows 7 key I mean, and I really want to upgrade instead of a fresh install to keep my keyboard shortcuts.
 
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Frick said:
Can I do an upgrade from Win7 and change the serial to a Windows 10 key? So I get to keep the Windows 7 key I mean, and I really want to upgrade instead of a fresh install to keep my keyboard shortcuts.
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If 10 is like 7, under System it should allow you to change the product key.
That way you should be able to save the Win 7 key for later use.
 
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Caring1 said:
If 10 is like 7, under System it should allow you to change the product key.
That way you should be able to save the Win 7 key for later use.
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i dont think it works that way - it might have already sent the key to microsoft for eatery.
 
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Just upgraded my HTPC to Windows 10 from 7. Man the experience is way better than 7. WIsh I did the upgrade earlier. Also since it is my entertainment PC I enabled Cortana. Very good assistant comparing with Siri TBH.
 
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For W7 SP1 lovers:

Convenience Rollup for Windows 7 SP1

The convenience rollup package acts like SP2 for Windows 7 and includes all security patches and almost all the non-security updates for operating system core components released after Windows 7 SP1. This package is cumulative meaning once you install it you won't have to install updates released up to May 2016.

Download:

KB3125574 x64

KB3125574 x86
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Just tried to install the x64 and got this after a while:

2016-05-22_210720.jpg
 
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Just tried to install the x64 and got this after a while
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Do you have KB3020369 installed? It's pretty old one (April 2015) but KB3125574 requires it. Anyway.. if you don't have that then install KB3020369 x64 and after that install convenience rollup package.
 
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Drone said:
Do you have KB3020369 installed? It's pretty old one (April 2015) but KB3125574 requires it. Anyway.. if you don't have that then install KB3020369 x64 and after that install convenience rollup package.
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2016-05-22_224600.jpg


Any other ideas?
 
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Frick said:
Can I do an upgrade from Win7 and change the serial to a Windows 10 key? So I get to keep the Windows 7 key I mean, and I really want to upgrade instead of a fresh install to keep my keyboard shortcuts.
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I'm pretty sure it operates like all past upgrades...you can no longer use the license on the original. This way also, they can ensure all those pesky old OS disappear.
 
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Stop Windows Updates service, then empty SoftwareDistribution folder and try again. Unfortunately I don't know what caused that error.
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Tried it: no work :(

eidairaman1 said:
uninstall the update through programs in Control panel
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Doesn't allow: it's one of those that can't be un-installed.
 
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With all their gyrations and tricks to force users to Win10 (Any guesses as to why the Win10 Market share keeps going up so drastically? :nutkick:), I believe I'm just passing on my original plan. I have zero intention to install 10 on either of my PCs now, free or not. Thinking about moving my server to a Linux build, if I can find one that does all the file sharing I need, and just holding pat on my win 7 ultimates. ... freaking microsoft....
 
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Took the plunge and it feels good. Turned off as much telemetry and whatever as possible. One of my two complaints resolved when I disabled AlwaysMouseWheel, and it turns out it's redundant anyway since Windows 10 seems to have the function (you don't have to "activate" windows - clicking on them - before scrolling in them, it is really hard to live without it when you're used to it) built in. The second complaint might resolve after a reboot - no sound as of yet. It installed drivers, so we'll see. When I reboot, which is rarely. It's fast, but still annoying.

The UI is still kinda split between two worlds (tablet-everything-huge-buttons and old style desktop), but it's not as jarring as Windows 8. "Settings" don't actually contain all settings that should be there, you still need the Control Panel and its associated tools for many things.
 
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Frick said:
Took the plunge and it feels good. Turned off as much telemetry and whatever as possible. One of my two complaints resolved when I disabled AlwaysMouseWheel, and it turns out it's redundant anyway since Windows 10 seems to have the function (you don't have to "activate" windows - clicking on them - before scrolling in them, it is really hard to live without it when you're used to it) built in. The second complaint might resolve after a reboot - no sound as of yet. It installed drivers, so we'll see. When I reboot, which is rarely. It's fast, but still annoying.

The UI is still kinda split between two worlds (tablet-everything-huge-buttons and old style desktop), but it's not as jarring as Windows 8. "Settings" don't actually contain all settings that should be there, you still need the Control Panel and its associated tools for many things.
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But all you have to do is right click the start to get control panel, before you had to add it for it to be there before.
 
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But all you have to do is right click the start to get control panel, before you had to add it for it to be there before.
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The complaint is not the logistics in gettings there, it's that the various settings are spread out in different places, and there are several ways of doings things. One example is adding printers: You have the old Devices and printers in the Control panel AND Devices in Settings. To some extent they overlap but not entirely.


Got the sound to work. I removed anything Creative -> shut down -> remove card, disabled internal sound (just for the sake of it) -> boot -> shut down -> install card -> boot -> download drivers from Creative home page -> install -> works.
 
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i wish MS would just give us a damn link to updated ISO's we could fresh install from, and skip this poop.

ya know, call em service packs or whatever.
 
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Sigh, I think my SSD is borked. Went into sleep mode, then the computer just refused to start. Had to unplug the power cord and attach it again for it to boot, but then it was only running for about a minute before locking up, in BIOS. Removed all non essential parts, BIOS ran fine. Tried booting from the SSD, no system disk detected. WTHHHHHHH

EDIT: No it isn't, just the bootstuff it seems. Blergh-de-blob.
 
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that does sound like SSD fails... maybe UEFI/secure boot/fast boot borky in BIOS?
 
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USB 3 port, USB 2.0 device.

W7 - 24MB/s
W10 - 39MB/s
(with 837GB of files to move, you can have a guess which one i'm preferring)

I unno guys, W10 has a few sneaky improvements under the hood :D
 
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Mussels said:
USB 3 port, USB 2.0 device.

W7 - 24MB/s
W10 - 39MB/s
(with 837GB of files to move, you can have a guess which one i'm preferring)

I unno guys, W10 has a few sneaky improvements under the hood :D
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I'm not doubting that but i question the cost it comes @.

Microsoft is attempting to shove W10 on our throats, with shady stuff under it's hood, and employing questionable tactics to do it. Dunno about you but i find that disturbing.
 
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Everyone on TPU is automatically three smarts smarter than a non-TPU plebs.

That means we're call capable of using a manual windows update tool and disabling the telemetrics, and getting W10 without the cost :D


edit: and i've been getting everyone i know with 7/8 to disable the windows update service, and they love their new minty fresh non laggy OS
 
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I'm not doubting that but i question the cost it comes @.

Microsoft is attempting to shove W10 on our throats, with shady stuff under it's hood, and employing questionable tactics to do it. Dunno about you but i find that disturbing.
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The deployment has been annoying, that I agree on. Most of the other stuff can be disabled, and improvements are made.
 
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