AMD FX OC'ers Club

buildzoid · May 28, 2016

Apparently showing off is OK here. So here goes my first time above 8Ghz:

Here's the setup:

I used a 990FX Sabertooth R2.0 and took me just over an hour to hit 8Ghz.

I'm gonna make another attempt at 8Ghz with my Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming board. It supports up to 2.3V core and I'll be switching thermal pastes from Cooler Master E1 to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. So hopefully it'll hit 8.1Ghz with the improvements.

eidairaman1 · May 30, 2016

Ok Since My 5.1GHz is stable, I was messing around with DOCP (Asus), My ram is 2133Gskill, I found out 1 setting sets the clock freq higher and the other only auto populates the Clock Freq for the ram. The ram seems to do ok with the 2400 setting for clock and timing, I believe the 2200 Timing profile is the same as the 2400 Profile. I presume my board can't go faster than 2400 for the Ram. If it cant I was wondering how to adjust timings to tighten them a little. My Ram at 2133 if I try to adjust the timing from 9 11 11 31 to 9 10 10 31, the OS starts to BSOD, Im presuming that is the tightest the ram can be at... 2400 without tweaking the timings from DOCP settings is stable.

edit- Just had a Minor breakthrough, I went to GSkill Site, see what the tighest 2400MHz Kit is which is Trident,
10,12,12,31 1.65V, set the ram to that and its stable-Got a Trident Kit for a RipjawsX Price!, the Asus Bios has more setting than just those settings, I was wondering what else I can adjust to make it as fast and stable as possible.

what do yall think. @ThE_MaD_ShOt, @cdawall , @GhostRyder, @rtwjunkie, @stinger608, @fullinfusion, @Norton, @manofthem
@JrRacinFan,@Johan45 ?

JrRacinFan · May 31, 2016

That what my suggestion was going to be. Cheers on the 2400 kit! Now here's the next try for clocking, bump up your CPU NB clock.

eidairaman1 · May 31, 2016

JrRacinFan said:
That what my suggestion was going to be. Cheers on the 2400 kit! Now here's the next try for clocking, bump up your CPU NB clock.

i had the FSB at 200 and Multi at 25.5, now ive bumped the FSB to 202. Seems stable thus far. I remember having to set another setting to 2400 because the bios said unsupported when at 2200.

JrRacinFan · May 31, 2016

Interesting. . . . have fun tho!! That's the key.

eidairaman1 · May 31, 2016

JrRacinFan said:
Interesting. . . . have fun tho!! That's the key.

it was the CPU-NB setting at 2200 that isnt supported when ram is at 2400, well I tried stability for the FSB, 202 was somewhat OK, however i dropped back down to 200, left the ram at 2400- set it at 10, 12, 12, 31 ,42, 1T. Stable so far, I guess I would need water and active VRM cooling after 5.1GHz

Random Murderer · May 31, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
Stable so far, I guess I would need water and active VRM cooling after 5.1GHz

To be fair, you should already have some decent airflow over the VRM heatsinks. They get toasty, even at stock, with these 8-core Vishera chips.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 31, 2016

He seams to have got a good one there for air especially, good clocking though eidairman1.

eidairaman1 · Jun 1, 2016

Random Murderer said:
To be fair, you should already have some decent airflow over the VRM heatsinks. They get toasty, even at stock, with these 8-core Vishera chips.

I have an Aerocool Xpredator with Bitfenix Fans 2x140 and 2x230. The vrms have a hs on em, just wondering if i should add fans to those spots plus the chipset,

@theoneandonlymrk

yeah my case isnt even loaded to the hilt with fans, the Ashura HS has 2 on it

Yeah I got this cpu from Frys or microcenter(dont remember actually)

Johan45 · Jun 1, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
Ok Since My 5.1GHz is stable, I was messing around with DOCP (Asus), My ram is 2133Gskill, I found out 1 setting sets the clock freq higher and the other only auto populates the Clock Freq for the ram. The ram seems to do ok with the 2400 setting for clock and timing, I believe the 2200 Timing profile is the same as the 2400 Profile. I presume my board can't go faster than 2400 for the Ram. If it cant I was wondering how to adjust timings to tighten them a little. My Ram at 2133 if I try to adjust the timing from 9 11 11 31 to 9 10 10 31, the OS starts to BSOD, Im presuming that is the tightest the ram can be at... 2400 without tweaking the timings from DOCP settings is stable.

edit- Just had a Minor breakthrough, I went to GSkill Site, see what the tighest 2400MHz Kit is which is Trident,
10,12,12,31 1.65V, set the ram to that and its stable-Got a Trident Kit for a RipjawsX Price!, the Asus Bios has more setting than just those settings, I was wondering what else I can adjust to make it as fast and stable as possible.

what do yall think. @ThE_MaD_ShOt, @cdawall , @GhostRyder, @rtwjunkie, @stinger608, @fullinfusion, @Norton, @manofthem
@JrRacinFan,@Johan45 ?

Did you drop to CR 1? After main timings I usually try for tWCL, needs to be set at CL or lower to be effective, another is tFAW which can only go so far as the chipset will allow. This guide fro ROG forums is a good read if you're really interested in tuning ram. https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2585-ASUS-Crosshair-V-Formula-BIOS-Guide-Overclocking
One thing I should mention is that for day to day usage the results won't really be noticeable. Benching and competing are a different story when 30 pts is all it take for first you look for small gains anywhere you can. One more thing that ram is likely Samsung and should be able to handle 1.75-1.8v daily with a bit of airflow so if your close to being stable don't be afraid to give it a bit more juice.

Justin Okeke · Jul 30, 2016

I'm new to overclocking and saw this forum when doing some research. What is the FX-8350 thermal limit under load? 60C?Where should I start when overclocking my CPU and RAM? For CPU I read to start increasing the multiplier until its unstable, then increase the voltage by 0.05v until its stable, then repeat. But where does overclocking NB come in at this point? Also in BIOS my mobo vcore settings are on auto, so when I start overclocking on what voltage should I start?Where do I even start with overclocking my RAM? In my BIOS my RAM runs at 1333 stock but I bought 1866MHz RAM so how do I overclock to 1866MHz or even beyond? So far under load my CPU temps reach about 35-37C.

Mobo: MSI 990 GD80 v2 Mobo
CPU: FX-8350 4GHz
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 Watercooler
RAM: 16GB G.Skill RipJaws 1866MHz advertised but its stock at 1333MHz
GPU: ASUS GTX 1080
PSU: Corsair 850W

Rannick1982 · Jul 30, 2016

Thinking about selling off my 8350 and 8120, Crosshair V Formula and RAM. A coworker gave me a "basic" X99 system, so, I'll not be breaking my 4.4GHz wall. lol

Athlonite · Jul 31, 2016

Justin Okeke said:
I'm new to overclocking and saw this forum when doing some research. What is the FX-8350 thermal limit under load? 60C?Where should I start when overclocking my CPU and RAM? For CPU I read to start increasing the multiplier until its unstable, then increase the voltage by 0.05v until its stable, then repeat. But where does overclocking NB come in at this point? Also in BIOS my mobo vcore settings are on auto, so when I start overclocking on what voltage should I start?Where do I even start with overclocking my RAM? In my BIOS my RAM runs at 1333 stock but I bought 1866MHz RAM so how do I overclock to 1866MHz or even beyond? So far under load my CPU temps reach about 35-37C.

Mobo: MSI 990 GD80 v2 Mobo
CPU: FX-8350 4GHz
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 Watercooler
RAM: 16GB G.Skill RipJaws 1866MHz advertised but its stock at 1333MHz
GPU: ASUS GTX 1080
PSU: Corsair 850W

first llets deal with the memory setting and how to get it at the right speed

you'll need to enter your BIOS next go to the Overclocking tab
now go down the list until you get to where it says DRAM Frequency and change it from AUTO to 1866

eidairaman1 · Aug 2, 2016

use multiplier clocking, if you use FSB clocking it affects the ram speeds. Multi Clocking keeps the ram locked as there is no lock down for the ram itself. 1.45 Vcore should be fine for your CPU. 4.7-4.9 GHz should be fairly easy, 5.0+ is a little more difficult

Pill Monster · Aug 4, 2016

Justin Okeke said:
I'm new to overclocking and saw this forum when doing some research. What is the FX-8350 thermal limit under load? 60C?

HTC limit is 80c-90c.

buildzoid said:
Apparently showing off is OK here. So here goes my first time above 8Ghz:

Here's the setup:

I used a 990FX Sabertooth R2.0 and took me just over an hour to hit 8Ghz.

I'm gonna make another attempt at 8Ghz with my Gigabyte 990FX-Gaming board. It supports up to 2.3V core and I'll be switching thermal pastes from Cooler Master E1 to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. So hopefully it'll hit 8.1Ghz with the improvements.

Truly impressive mate. Well done.

Great board the Sabertooth......

Durvelle27 · Sep 15, 2016

The good ole days

Mathragh · Sep 15, 2016

Durvelle27 said:
The good ole days

Hard to believe it's been such a long time since the launch of piledriver.

Rumors are Zen might not be using the FX branding. Would be the end of this tread :'(

BirdyNV · Sep 15, 2016

Mathragh said:
Hard to believe it's been such a long time since the launch of piledriver.

Rumors are Zen might not be using the FX branding. Would be the end of this tread :'(

I doubt they will drop the FX brand not sure what they will call it though. FX-10000 series? lol I doubt it.

Durvelle27 · Sep 15, 2016

Mathragh said:
Hard to believe it's been such a long time since the launch of piledriver.

Rumors are Zen might not be using the FX branding. Would be the end of this tread :'(

Yea very long

I got all my FX Chips at launch

I also heard rumors of a name change

eidairaman1 · Sep 15, 2016

Durvelle27 said:
The good ole days

is that Air or Water chilled?

Durvelle27 · Sep 15, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
is that Air or Water chilled?

Water

eidairaman1 · Sep 15, 2016

Durvelle27 said:
Water

5.2 or higher i need water

Durvelle27 · Sep 15, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
5.2 or higher i need water

Water and a ASUS M5A97 EVO

eidairaman1 · Sep 16, 2016

On

Durvelle27 said:
Water and a ASUS M5A97 EVO

A sabertooth r2.0 here, for me to hit 5.1 on air is a feat in itself.

m0nt3 · Sep 19, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
On

A sabertooth r2.0 here, for me to hit 5.1 on air is a feat in itself.

Really? My socket temps at 4.5Ghz with voltage set to 1.35 starts to approach 70C. More core temps around 50-55C. I would be interested in temps and voltages with the air cooler you have at 5.1GHz. I am also on the sabertooth r2.0

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Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
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Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Cooling	Custom Water 1x420
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Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB Elite White
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Software	Windows 10
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