MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8 GB

[BoyGenius]

Just wait for the 1080Ti price! (We need an emoticon of clutching the chest)

Also next Titan XX will be above that.


I think this card is also a bit on expensive side but a great review anyway.

 

[NeroProtagonist]

I'm not quite sure how the reviewer can claim "the MSI Gaming X is still a much better price-to-performance option than the GTX 980 or 980 Ti." when the Performance per Dollar graphs show something else entirely.

 

[xorbe]

$720 for the 256-bit turbo civic ... that's a pass. I may skip this generation on the high-end, seems like the 384-bit big dog could be stupid expensive this generation. Really want to see the 1060 card though.

 

[Basard]

So they pick a bunch of really nice chips, send em out, call em founder edition, they get reviewed---"1080 is awesome!!! Best overclock EVER!!" And then the "real" cards come out-you know, the ones that they can actually MASS produce-and it's all sour milk from then on..? I guess that's why they gave it the "founders edition" badge, it's almost a totally different model, keeps them from getting sued or something, I guess.

Kinda disappointing, I was expecting better than FE.

 

[EzioAs]

So they pick a bunch of really nice chips, send em out, call em founder edition, they get reviewed---"1080 is awesome!!! Best overclock EVER!!" And then the "real" cards come out-you know, the ones that they can actually MASS produce-and it's all sour milk from then on..? I guess that's why they gave it the "founders edition" badge, it's almost a totally different model, keeps them from getting sued or something, I guess.

Kinda disappointing, I was expecting better than FE.

In my opinion, it's better to judge a product's performance based on it's stock clock than it's overclocking capability. Plus, there's always that luck of the draw when it comes to OC.

 

[msamelis]

Seems like the prices have increased as much as the performance on the 10 series.. $720? That translates around €850-900 around here. I have always been waiting on the Ti versions of the flagships but, bloody hell, if the 1080 is that expensive, how much will the Ti version be? I can't get AMD either because I decided to invest in a Gsyn monitor too.. I think I might skip the 10 series this time around.

 

[Dethroy]

Honestly, I'm not impressed. It was obvious that custom coolers will run Pascal cards silently at cool temps considering the much lower power draw when compared to 28nm. But the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (honestly?) 8GB has nothing else that could set it apart from the rest of the pack... Oh no, it actually sets itself apart - with terrible pricing and overclocking. Ok, I stop the grief. But I am not willing to pay 719$ (799€ in Germany) for a freaking midrange card. Honestly, where are we heading? Counting on Vega and GP100 to right the wrongs.

Do you know at what fanspeed I should set my MSI 970Gaming in order to test this?
Because I can clearly hear it at 42% with the case next to me on the ground. (case fans run at 450~ RPM, Dual CPU fans at 350~ in idle with 550~ under load, passive PSU, no HDDs)
And that's by manually setting the fan, in auto mode it's just too loud for me.

What case do you use? Have you done any modifications to it?

 

[beck24]

I love all these AMD fanbois whining "Im not impressed". So predictable. The card this replaces is the 980 which the 1080 is vastly faster than and more power efficient. In many cases its 40 to 50% and more faster than the 650 dollar Fury X. The upcoming 1080ti and Titan variants of Pascal are even more powerful and prices always settle down after launch hysteria.

 

[bug]

If AMD really can sneak Polaris' promised performance in at $200 they're gonna have a winner on their hands. The prices for the Pascal cards are insane.

That's a big if. Chances are Polaris will face similar shortages and price gouging Pascal does. Though it's much easier to swallow a $200->$275 (let's say) markup than a $600->$700+ one.
We'll have to wait and see, but we already know we haven't had such an interesting year (wrt video cards) for quite some time

 

[Shou Miko]

Wait, so the regular reference card actually clocked higher than this OC special...

I think u forget to read this:

Important: Each GPU (including each GPU of the same make and model) will overclock slightly
differently based on random production variances. This table just serves to provide a list of typical
overclocks for similar cards, determined during TPU review.


This is actually true every card like every cpu overclocks differently with different volts needed and all that u could have seen a card that could have boosted to 2500mhz without any added voltage or so and u would have been disappointed to see ur card might only have done 2000mhz boost just to keep this in mind.

 

[ZeroFM]

I love all these AMD fanbois whining "Im not impressed". So predictable. The card this replaces is the 980 which the 1080 is vastly faster than and more power efficient. In many cases its 40 to 50% faster than the 650 dollar Fury X. The upcoming 1080ti and Titan variants of Pascal are even more powerful and prices always settle down after launch hysteria.

dude gtx 980 at launch not priced at 650£ . 1080 should replace 980ti but still 100[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sign']£ more expensive at launch[/URL]

 

[beck24]

dude gtx 980 at launch not priced at 650£ . 1080 should replace 980ti but still 100£ more expensive at launch

Point is 1080ti has already been reported for release later this year, plus some version of Pascal Titan. No one forces anyone to buy em but they will sell. Generally the people that can afford 5 to 7 hundred dollar video cards want the best, a hundred bucks is lunch money for them.

 

[MustSeeMelons]

Seems like the whole FE really f*cked the consumer. If it will be the same with the 1070, seems that in my country it will cost basically the same as a 980Ti for the foreseeable future.
I like the FPS figures, but that's about it.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I love all these AMD fanbois whining "Im not impressed". So predictable. The card this replaces is the 980

Yes, I know it replaces the 980...at about $200 frickin dollars more! If you'll do some forum reading on this and some of the other threads, I have made that point several times.

As to the AMD fanbois crying comment, try looking up system specs of those of us who have made these comments before you embarrass yourself further.

 

[Ruru]

DVI output no longer includes analog VGA signals <-- lol Thumbs down for this, srsly if ppl can afford a GTX 1080 they should be able to afford a better monitor running DVI-D, HDMI or Displayport not sitting with a VGA monitor

That's what's I was about to comment too.. Technology evolves, we just can't have all that legacy crap forever.


Good review tho!

 

[Vayra86]

Wait, so the regular reference card actually clocked higher than this OC special...

Yes, but it doesn't hold that clockspeed.

The MSI Gaming X also doesn't hold the max clockspeed even before it reaches a 82C throttle point. Pascal clocks fluctuate a couple of bins, constantly, as you can see in the graph below this box in the review. The MSI Gaming X *does* get a much higher clock median of 1912mhz, which is what you should consider the realistic clock at gaming loads. The FE will fall off much further - it peaks higher, and falls back more immediately when it hits the 82C throttle point.

With Pascal there is not going to be any easy way to keep a solid boost clock. Where Kepler/Maxwell would dabble in one boost bin up or down, with GPU Boost 3.0 you set a clock range across all voltages.

About the actual OC capability, I was completely right in saying that Nvidia has eaten up most of the OC headroom on Pascal by shipping with very high stock clocks. MSI takes another good 8% of OC headroom and balances it out with their cooling solution. What is left (before overvolt!) is about 8% more performance. That's about 17-20% from stock clocks without boost. Factor in GPU Boost 3.0 however, and you can see most of the OC'ing is done for us.

About the additional pins: I think these cards will peak for typical use at 2100mhz, regardless of overvolt, additional pins or whatever exotic marketing AIB's conjure up this time. Overall I think MSI's Gaming X is going to be the sweet middle ground in terms of a very decent factory OC with a whisper quiet cooler on top, without being overpriced in the whole scheme of AIB releases. They've got a winner methinks.

What I am most curious about is if they will put this exact same cooler on the 1070 Gaming X... in that case, that may be my next card when the prices settle a bit. So far it puts the Asus Strix to shame at least, and Gigabyte isn't even on my list anymore, their cooler needs a lot of love.

 

[NDown]

I love all these AMD fanbois whining "Im not impressed". So predictable. The card this replaces is the 980 which the 1080 is vastly faster than and more power efficient. In many cases its 40 to 50% and more faster than the 650 dollar Fury X. The upcoming 1080ti and Titan variants of Pascal are even more powerful and prices always settle down after launch hysteria.

How can one be a fanboy simply because they disagree with you?

It is not impressive because it doesnt overclock that good considering the hype weeks ago, not to add the ridiculous pricing.

"more faster than the 650 dollar Fury X"

well it's faster than the 980Ti aswell, why the fuck are you comparing 16nm to 28nm cards

might aswell compare it to the original 2013 Titan that costs $1000 at its launch

Point is 1080ti has already been reported for release later this year, plus some version of Pascal Titan. No one forces anyone to buy em but they will sell. Generally the people that can afford 5 to 7 hundred dollar video cards want the best, a hundred bucks is lunch money for them.

This kind of mindset (and people actually do that) is what drives the GPU prices even further, they just swallow everything thrown at them without actually considering the actual value of the card

The market as a whole could drive prices down if the users weren't like meth addicts.

 

[Frick]

This kind of mindset (and people actually do that) is what drives the GPU prices even further, they just swallow everything thrown at them without actually considering the actual value of the card

The market as a whole could drive prices down if the users weren't like meth addicts.

Aye, more performance for more money is not the upgrade we need (it might be the upgrade we deserve). More performance for the same money/same performance for less money is what makes it an upgrade IMO.

 

[yysc]

my side :
ACX SC = 839chf ... 868.85$
ACX FTW= 899chf... 930.99$


same player try again ...

USA prices don't include taxes, European prices do.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

How can one be a fanboy simply because they disagree with you?

It is not impressive because it doesnt overclock that good considering the hype weeks ago, not to add the ridiculous pricing.

"more faster than the 650 dollar Fury X"

well it's faster than the 980Ti aswell, why the fuck are you comparing 16nm to 28nm cards

might aswell compare it to the original 2013 Titan that costs $1000 at its launch

You know, its funny, people scream that comparing pascal to 28nm cards is "unfair" and shouldnt be done, but when polaris is compared to a 980, nobody screams " WAAAH, YOU CANT COMPARE 14NM WITH 28NM!!!!1!1!!"

The 1080 is compared with 28nm cards because it is replacing them. Again, when the 680 came out, it was compared to the 580. When the 980 came out, it was compared to the 780/ti. When the 7000 series came out, it was compared to the 6000 series. thats how it works, die shrink or not, you compare the new cards to the old ones. Thats how comparisons work.

 

[Air]

Ok question: Is it possible to undervolt these cards using the new boost 3.0 features? I mean, instead of increasing clocks for each voltage value, reduce voltage for each clock value. If so, by how much? Can these cards be undervolted at all?

So If anyone is interested, I just checked. You cant.

Guru 3D has a video on the overclocking section of the GTX 1070 FE, the voltage offset slider range is from 0 to +100 mV. And voltage is the X axis on the GPU Boost 3.0 adjust tool.

 

[MustSeeMelons]

I vote for castrating the guy who thought that 20% above MSRP is OK. The more expensive it is, the less value it holds and the more fierce the defense be from the ones who bought it, there aren't many people who can admit a 700+ purchase mistake..

 

[beck24]

Yes, I know it replaces the 980...at about $200 frickin dollars more! If you'll do some forum reading on this and some of the other threads, I have made that point several times.

As to the AMD fanbois crying comment, try looking up system specs of those of us who have made these comments before you embarrass yourself further.

lol.
If I want to find out about a GPU I actually read the reviews of legit sites, then talk to my buddies. If $200 means that much to you, don't buy it. SO far, in the opinion of reviewers whose opinions matter to more than one person, 1070 and 1080 are well received.

 

[rtwjunkie]

lol.
If I want to find out about a GPU I actually read the reviews of legit sites, then talk to my buddies. If $200 means that much to you, don't buy it. SO far, in the opinion of reviewers whose opinions matter to more than one person, 1070 and 1080 are well received.

LOL, didn't say it wasn't. Now, try and focus on it's over-inflated value.

What's amazing is how skillfully you chose to completely gloss over the primary point, which was that most of those pointing out its overinflated expense are not AMD owners as you assumed. It IS possible to just make honest assesments of a product.

 

[Melvis]

Going by those numbers ill be getting a second hand GTX 970