AMD Confirms "Ellesmere" and "Baffin" GPU Specs

[bug]

I am expecting reviewers to try to drive reader's attention away from the perf/$ figures, and to concentrate on the fact that Polaris can't offer GP104's performance out of the box. I am also expecting them to make these cards look like the poor guy/looser guy choice somewhere in their conclusions. And of course all hell will break lose if the cards are not perfect. If the card's cooling system produces 0.00001 dB more noise than the competition, I am expecting lengthy analysis about how this product failed.

I like how HardOCP does their reviews: they highlight which card play each game at which settings. Because in the end, it doesn't matter if a card is 20% than another if that doesn't translate into higher playable settings. The cost is important, too and sometimes the power draw. But fist and foremost it's what a card can do.

 

[ShurikN]

So around GTX980 performance then.
Not bad for a cheap card.

I still don't regret my MSI GTX1070 Gaming X order though

RX480 will be around 980. 470 is more in the range of 970/390.

 

[AsRock]

until nvidia come out with a 1060 amd are gonna have a clear run.. they have to win somewhere.. he he

trog

Yup, looks like AMD are not playing nVidia's game, good to see and should be a bigger market for lower end cards too.

 

[G33k2Fr34k]

This is one of the best bang for bucks cards in over a decade!! In the coming days more and more truth will be shown. For what ever reasons behind this...I am so embarrassed at some websites making AMD's Polaris cards far worse than what they really are. Finally some of us can speak up for AMD for once..geesh

​

It all depends on what games are used to test these cards. Games like Project Cars or Rainbow Siege will lower the relative performance of AMD cards, whereas in games like Star Wars Battlefront or Quantum Break(neither of which TPU uses in their latest suite), AMD does significantly better than Nvidia.

The RX480 is the next 4870. It will go down in history as the most attractive card ever sold.

 

[bug]

Yup, looks like AMD are not playing nVidia's game, good to see and should be a bigger market for lower end cards too.

Tbh Nvidia has cut AMD a big hole in the $200-$300 price range with Maxwell as well.

 

[Casecutter]

Its impossible for a review to be 100% objective.
What is good?
What is loud?
What is high?
What is low?

All I want is good data that provides a clear picture of how the relative cards in the market at that time stack. Let me interpret the good the bad and ugly. A reviews conclusion is how the person interprets in their experience with the product for a day or so. But yes some reviewers add their agenda sometime forcibly underhanded. I find if the data is not skewed or stacked in a way that promotes one over the other, their option can have merit, because their data has merit.

wccftech promises OCed results:

I would temper any talk of that and defer to the actual release reviews. I'm not sure how someone who actually has the product under a NDA has any business promising anything...

Here's what I've always thought would be a good tool; Have bunch of games, then the person t can choose those game he will play or interested in, and kick out the stuff that don't carry an interest then generate a summery for just those games. One site that offer a good list of games is babeltechreviews.com. though I wish they let that raw data available so it could be easily enter into sometime like Excel and really dissected.

 

[happita]

It all depends on what games are used to test these cards. Games like Project Cars or Rainbow Siege will lower the relative performance of AMD cards, whereas in games like Star Wars Battlefront or Quantum Break(neither of which TPU uses in their latest suite), AMD does significantly better than Nvidia.

TPU uses a very good number of games to test. I'd say 16 games of different genres is more than enough to get a "big picture" sense as to how a card performs versus others. Other review sites use much less.
But I don't think the RX 480 needs specific games to show people the muscle it can deliver.

 

[G33k2Fr34k]

TPU uses a very good number of games to test. I'd say 16 games of different genres is more than enough to get a "big picture" sense as to how a card performs versus others. Other review sites use much less.
But I don't think the RX 480 needs specific games to show people the muscle it can deliver.

Even with the Fire Strike Ultra resutls from WCCftech, we still don't know how well the RX480 does in polygon throughput or high quality texture filtering compared to the older GCN cards. If Polaris has improved Tessellation performance then the lead over the older GCN cards should be even bigger.

 

[medi01]

I like how HardOCP does their reviews: they highlight which card play each game at which settings. Because in the end, it doesn't matter if a card is 20% than another if that doesn't translate into higher playable settings. The cost is important, too and sometimes the power draw. But fist and foremost it's what a card can do.

Idea is good, but I find it confusing at hell at times. So card is slower than card b at better settings. Dafuq does it tell me if I'm after relative performance?

Kyles salty BS rant about AMD Polaris problems, makes rather unlikely to trust their reviews.
Well, they might be good comparing nvidia card to nvidia card though.

 

[bug]

Idea is good, but I find it confusing at hell at times. So card is slower than card b at better settings. Dafuq does it tell me if I'm after relative performance?

Kyles salty BS rant about AMD Polaris problems, makes rather unlikely to trust their reviews.
Well, they might be good comparing nvidia card to nvidia card though.

Oh yes, I found it (very) confusing at first, too. But they also have an apples-to-apples graph for each test, so you have everything you need to know in there.

As for rants, we won't know until the 27th. If availability of the 480 won't be an issue, then he was full of it. Otherwise...

 

[okidna]

RX 480 is looking better and better, definitely a win for AMD and of course a buy for me, especially because my secondary PC still waiting for dGPU.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

It's a party 480's for everybody. Is there going to be a 490?

 

[nem..]

Note that if Scorpio is too based on Polaris 10 as everything indicates, then lso will be supporting the HDMI 2.0a which is supporting the Free-Sync and HDR, so this seems quite good P10 comes to consoles and Mainstream market Gpu so than it will cause the mass production HDR and should do low prices of such monitors

HDR 1080> 4K Monitors

min 4:55 HDR sreen vs SDR srcreem comparision

 

[john_]

I wouldn't ignore RX470 and RX460. RX470 looks like offering excellent performance for only $150 and if RX460 comes at lower than $100, then second hand market is dead.

 

[RejZoR]

In a way I'm glad they dropped the silly R5/R7/R9/Rwhatever designators. They were more confusing than helpful.

 

[jaggerwild]

They did a preview but they always seem to be too busy covering Apple 'anything' releases. Where did Anand go to again.... oh yeah...Apple.

As for the WCCFTECH stuff, pinch of salt but we know AMD can make good hardware so if they cut the profit margins on that pricing, it's very feasible. Nvidia on the other hand are using 'flagship' material to raise profit margins on BOM.

As for the pre-emptive whining from John.... to be expected. C'mon now Mr John, let's not be too depressive. TPU will judge fairly.

Anand got bought out by Tomahardware LOL!

 

[AsRock]

Anand got bought out by Tomahardware LOL!

, Tomshardware sucks.

 

[GhostRyder]

In a way I'm glad they dropped the silly R5/R7/R9/Rwhatever designators. They were more confusing than helpful.

You and me both, it made very little sense!

Well I would not mind these cards, but I want one without a power connector like my GTX 950 (And perform better).

 

[Frick]

In a way I'm glad they dropped the silly R5/R7/R9/Rwhatever designators. They were more confusing than helpful.

They were logical, but a bit redundant.

 

[medi01]

I would temper any talk of that and defer to the actual release reviews

I would remind people, how it went with 1070 leaks:
http://videocardz.com/60265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-3dmark-firestrike-benchmarks

And I'd say: pretty damn well..

Anand got bought out by Tomahardware LOL!

Oh, wow.

For how much?

As for rants, we won't know until the 27th. If availability of the 480 won't be an issue, then he was full of it. Otherwise...

No, just availability (which depends on demand) won't show anything. Kyle went bananas on all fronts, be it raw performance or power envelope.
It contradicts all leaks we have seen so far (and AMDs official presentation too).

 

[RejZoR]

Supposedly it told me what class it belongs into, but in reality, it told me nothing. RX 485 however tells me everything. First number is generation, second is model and third was release or update of the model. That's all you need with card models.

 

[bug]

Supposedly it told me what class it belongs into, but in reality, it told me nothing. RX 485 however tells me everything. First number is generation, second is model and third was release or update of the model. That's all you need with card models.

Tbh, if AMD dropped RX entirely and Nvidia got rid of GTX, no one would care/notice.
There _was_ some logic in R5/7/9, in that it was supposed to reflect the performance class. But AMD made it so that everything available for retail was an R9 anyway, defeating the purpose of the scheme they invented to ease choices in the first place.

 

[TRWOV]

It's a party 480's for everybody. Is there going to be a 490?

I think Vega is going to be it... quite frankly, I don't think AMD should bother but as the saying goes, perception is reality. Even if they don't expect to sell a ton of cards they still have to come out with a high end part in order to get mind share.