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Next came the turn of the FDD's and ODD's :D

Full cleaning process too :D I like my components squeaky clean - It makes the experience all more authentic.

The assembly of the face of the PC case.

The plastics were kept in water with a small quantity of vinegar.

Check the bug in the system :D

More pics and the compressor used to clean/dry the plastic parts.

LCD display test. In the end I didnt use it for the 5x86 build because my 5x86 didnt have one to beging with.

Test fitting of the motherboard revealed that after all these years the motherboard was little bent out of shape and I had to be very carefull with the RAM sticks touching the metal case. The SIMM problem was solved with carefull bending of the metal :D By all means do not use a hammer....IBM.....

Some of the motherboard spacers were made from plastic which in time changed its shape. Also the motherboard tray had HUGE fitting holes and I had to compensate this with a little bit of copper wire wrapped around them. Nothing was moving now :D

I used some soft foam to stop the motherboard tray from making noise. Also the foam was used to cancel the vibration from the ODD, FDD and 3.5" and 5.25 bay covers.

First I didnt have the metal plat which connects the POWER SWITCH to the case and I had make one from an a bike spoke. I came out strudy as hell. :D In the end I found the missing metal plate.....there goes an hour from my life :D....The switch had a little play in its interbnals and I used a zip tie to cancel this.

The PSU was fully stripped and cleaned. I checked it with a light load and it was in awesome shape.

The case was missing some rear covers and I decided to make my own from perforated metal strips.

Back in '96 my PC didnt have a sound card or a CD-ROM. They came later in '98 an ESS1868 ISA sound card and an LG 16X which was crap. It read only silver CD's. Any other colour blue or gold was not read by this crappy unit.

All the cables were also cleaned with a great attention to detail. I matched the colour of the red strips for all the cables as best as I could :D

The HDD was mounted in a 5.25 slot instead of a 3.5, using metal spacers, for better cooling.

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This case didnt have a Turbo switch like my old one, so I added a Turbo Led and used a jumper to set Turbo On or Off.

If you are still hanging in here I hope I dont spam the thread :D - this work was done in weeks and the build log was full of details written in romanian so for now I cant translate all of it. In the future I'll post simultaneously here and on the lab501 forum, form my country.

After all this hustle the result came up.....well you can see for yourself :D

This rebuild of my first PC, in 2015 was like a trip in the past. All the smells of the electronics, the noises were all familiar. It was awesome!

The 5x86 - Build

Vital statistics

1. CPU: AMD 5X86 133MHz - AMD-X5-133ADZ/Am5X86-P75 3.45V
2. Motherboard: Jetway J446A v2.0 - chipset SiS 496/497 - 256KB cache/3 PCI/3 ISA/4 RAM SLOTS
3. RAM: 2x16=32 MB RAM SIMM FPM
4. VGA: ARK Logic ARK2000PV, 2MB, PCI
5. AUDIO: ESS AudioDrive 1868F ISA
6. HDD: QUANTUM TRAILBLAZER TRB850A -850MB- 4500RPM
7. FDD: SONY
8. CD-ROM: SONY 52x CDU5221
9. PSU: Minebea Electronics 200W AT PSU
10. Cooling: CPU-Noctua NF-4x10FLX 40 mm x 40 mm x 10 mm 4500 rpm/SSO2 SYSTEM: Scythe Mini Kaze 60 mm x 60 mm x 20 mm 2500 rpm/sleeve.
11. CASE: Generic AT Case manufactured 1998.
2. Enthusiasm/Nostalgy/Dedication/Time/Headaches/Money :D

The RESULT?PRICELESS!!!

Testing before fitting into the case.

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This was the AMD 5x86 DX5 133MHz rebuild presented in fast forward speed :D

More builds have been completed an K6-2 450MHz, a Pentium III 550MHz Slot and an AMD Irongate SLOT A test system.

If there is interest I'll post some later. Also I have an extensive picture collection of other old hardware (mostly '90s) which I can post. All the parts have been cleaned and are kept in boxes.

They were gathered in 2015 and 2016. After this stage I came to a halt. All the stuff fits in about 14+ boxes and I have enough stuff for a lifetime :D Hoarding is bad for health and the wallet....

Also interesting stories of bent pins (lots) and a VooDoo 3 3000 16MB AGP ressurrection can be posted.

More later. Enjoy the pics.

P.S. Sorry if I came storming in and spammed the thread.
 

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System Name Adison "Open Space" 19
Processor Intel Pentium II, 350MHz
Motherboard Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1
Cooling SECC Cartridge
Memory 1x 64MB, PC100
Video Card(s) ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB
Storage BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB
Display(s) LG StudioWorks 57M
Case Adison Midi Tower, ATX
Audio Device(s) Creative SoundBlaster 128
Power Supply Codegen 300W
Mouse Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Keyboard Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Software Microsoft Windows 98
Pics 3

This was the AMD 5x86 DX5 133MHz rebuild presented in fast forward speed :D

More builds have been completed an K6-2 450MHz, a Pentium III 550MHz Slot and an AMD Irongate SLOT A test system.

If there is interest I'll post some later. Also I have an extensive picture collection of other old hardware (mostly '90s) which I can post. All the parts have been cleaned and are kept in boxes.

They were gathered in 2015 and 2016. After this stage I came to a halt. All the stuff fits in about 14+ boxes and I have enough stuff for a lifetime :D Hoarding is bad for health and the wallet....

Also interesting stories of bent pins (lots) and a VooDoo 3 3000 16MB AGP ressurrection can be posted.

More later. Enjoy the pics.

P.S. Sorry if I came storming in and spammed the thread.
No prob about spamming the thread lol, I really do like your dedication to small details! I've done somewhat similar restoration on a 5x86, myself except I didn't go into so much details like you did. I wanted to keep it simple & straightforward, so I removed all the components (replaced few of them) & made few changes (and upgrades) to the system. Overall I'm pretty happy with the end results :) And just like you, I've also decided to put Win95 rather than Win 3.11 or Win98, I even used the similar games!
 
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Trekkie4 - saw your 5x86 build - pretty sweet stuff. The two 5x86 I found were different specs. One was the ADW version which required Heatsink and Fan, and one was ADZ version. I ended using the ADZ. I thought about OC'ing the chip but I was afraid of frying the motherboard and gave up.

I decided on Win 95 and a hefty 2MB smartdrive :D Win 98 was sluggish in '98 with 8MB of RAM so I didint test it now. Late '98 I jumped from the 5x86 to Celeron A 366MHz and a MSI 440BX mobo and nVidia Vanta 8MB. Good Old Times. Even if I'm 36 it seems just like yesterday...

I have more stuff to upload if you liked what I posted.

Is there a limit to the overall attachments space on TPU for any given user? I only saw the 2MB/file limit. I have much much more stuff to post...
 
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Memory 1x 64MB, PC100
Video Card(s) ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB
Storage BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB
Display(s) LG StudioWorks 57M
Case Adison Midi Tower, ATX
Audio Device(s) Creative SoundBlaster 128
Power Supply Codegen 300W
Mouse Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Keyboard Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2
Software Microsoft Windows 98
Nah, it's never a good idea to OC retro hardware IMHO, it's just not worth the risk. I mean, if you want to have a CPU that's 100 or 200MHz faster than the one you already have, why not get the real thing, as in faster & better model? Especially since they're so cheap nowdays... Obviously, I'm referring to all the CPU brands and models, not just 5x86 alone.

Personally, I like to keep my retro builds in chronological order & true to the original. Meaning that if I have a system from 1995, or 1996, it'll most likely end up running Win95. Same with later models, from 1998, 1999 - I'm using Win98 on those ones and/or Win 3.11 (usually in combination with DOS 6.22) on 3x86 & 4x86 builds.

IDK about the limit on TPU, but you might want to consider image hosting service, rather than using TPU image upload... We had a debate regarding this issue before, and most of us agreed that PostImage.org is the best way to go at the moment. Imagebam used to be reliable back in a day, but they're spamming ppl way too much with annoying popups & ads.
 
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Motherboard B450 Aorus / ASUS P5G41C-M LX
Cooling TT Esports Duo / Chinesium cooler
Memory 16GB DDR4 3ghz / 4GB DDR2 800mhz
Video Card(s) 2060 Super / 5700-XT / GTX 650Ti
Storage 120GB + 1TB SSD / 160GB SSD
Display(s) Samsung CRG5 144hz QD
Case CiT shit chassis modded / Coolermaster Elite 430
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster FX / Audigy 2 ZX
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I do love seeing retro hardware running games not designed for such HW :p


Ages a go i did the impossible..

512MB 64 bit DDR2 4570M laptop GPU.
2.2ghz C2D T6600 overheat edition.
3GB DDR2 ram.

I applied a 150mhz OC on the memory of that GPU and 25mhz stable GPU OC.


And yes i'm better at Quake with better HW, i'm a UT player tho :p

 
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Here comes the Pentium III - Slot 1 - build. Back in the day I couldn't afford such a system. It was soooo expensive. In end I used a beefier GPU but I guess that cand be forgiven :D

As usual all the parts were stripped and thoroughly cleaned. This build was much easier than the 5x86.

The case was in mint condition. The HDD was almost new, only the soundcard was a little roughed up, but given its name I decided to use it as is :).

The testing of the HDD was done using a standard PC PSU, A-bit - Serillel adapter, and a Express Card eSATA adapter plugged into my Acer Aspire 5315 laptop.

The GPU recived a new cooler: DeepCool V50 becasue the old one was small and the fan was busted.A fresh apply of Arctic MX-4 grease was made :D

I also tested a STB Systems VooDoo 3 3000 AGP 16MB which was in great condition. I only paid 1.2 EUR for it :D

I also added thumb screws to the case and an Enermax T.B. Silence 80mm fan.

I came out pretty good if I say so myself.

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Cooling TT Esports Duo / Chinesium cooler
Memory 16GB DDR4 3ghz / 4GB DDR2 800mhz
Video Card(s) 2060 Super / 5700-XT / GTX 650Ti
Storage 120GB + 1TB SSD / 160GB SSD
Display(s) Samsung CRG5 144hz QD
Case CiT shit chassis modded / Coolermaster Elite 430
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster FX / Audigy 2 ZX
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nVidia Geforce 2 Ti 64MB - full specs of the system will follow shortly :D The STB Systems VooDoo 3 16MB was a "little" slow in my point of view :D

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Pentium III - Slot 1 Build

Vital statistics:

1. CPU: Intel Pentium III 550MHz - SL3FJ - Costa Rica 512KB cache / 100MHz bus / 2.0V
2. Motherboard: LuckyStar 6VABX2 VER. 2.0 - Slot 1 - Chipset - VIA VT82C693 & VT82C596A / 1xAGP 2x / 5 PCI (4 bus master 1 slave) / 2 ISA / ATA 33
3. RAM: 384 MB - PC133 @ PC100 speed : 2X128MB PQI / 1x128MB IBM
4. VGA: Inno3D Geforce 2 Ti - 64MB - VGA/TV out
5. AUDIO: Diamond Aureal Vortex 2 Monster Sound MX300 - PCI
6. HDD: QUANTUM FIREBALL PLUS AS40-40GB - 7200RPM
7. FDD: NEC
8. CD-ROM: ASUS QuieTrack 52X CD-S520/A
9. LAN: generic 10/100 Mbps
10. Mobile HDD rack 3.5/5.25
11. PSU: generic JNC Computer Corp. 235W
12. Cooling: Intel stock slot 1 cooler / Inno3D - DeepCool v50 / Enermax T.B Silence 80 mm
13. CASE: Generic ATX Case branded COMRACE ~ 1999
14. Less effort than the 5x86 build.

Enjoy.

Next on the list will be a K6-2 build and much more.....
 

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I absolutely adore Slot 1 systems, got dozens of them around here ranging from Celeron 333, Pentium 2 350 all the way up to Pentium 3 733.

As for the MX300 Aureal Vortex2 card, I also have one that's been paired up with Slot-1 Pentium 2 system. It's running 256mb of RAM, has 20GB WD HDD and takes advantage of ATI Rage3D IIc AGP card + 2x Creative 3D Blaster Voodoo2 (12mb) in SLI

Edit
It's basically very similar to this system here, except the one on the pic uses AWE SoundBlaster and has different mobo ;)
 
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Nice system you have there trekkie4 :) Glad to see that AWE32 still alive after all these years.

I have prepared 230+ pictures for the K6-2 and K7 Slot A builds. I'll post them ASAP. The AMD Irongate K7 Slot A was a special find for me. It's not very common in my country.I still remember the articles I was reading about the race between AMD and Intel to be the 1st to get to 1GHz. Good old days :D

Besides these I have around 200-300 pics with old ISA, PCI and AGP cards to post. Some CPU's, memory and motherboards, together with the salvage of CPU's with bent pins for socket 3, 7......the dismantling of SLOT A AMD Cpu-s.

More goodies to follow in the next days/weeks.

I hope they will be well received :D

For the socket 7 build I had a lot to chose from :D

Motherboards

1. ACorp 5ALi61 REV. D - Socket 7 - Chipset ALi M1542-A1/M1543C-A1
2. ZIDA-TOMATO BOARD - 5STXJ-98 REV. 1.02 - Socket 7 - Chipset Intel 430TX - 82439TX System Controller(MTXC) & 82371AB PCI ISA IDE Xcelerator (PIIX4)
3. LuckyStar 5V-1A VER. 2.0 - Socket 7- Chipset - VIA 82C585VPX & 82C586A
4. Epox EP58 MVP3C-M 100MHz Rev. 0.8 - Socket 7 - Chipset - VIA VT82C598MVP & VT82C586B

CPU's

1. AMD K6-2 300MHz - AFR - 1998 -week 41
2. AMD K6-2 350MHz - AFR - 1999- week 21
3. AMD K6-2 400MHz - AFR - 1999- week 50
4. AMD K6-2 450MHz - AFX - 2000- week 02
5. Pentium 100MHz - SX963
6. Pentium 133MHz - SY022
7. Pentium 166MHz - SY037
8. Pentium 166MHz-MMX - SL27K
9. Cyrix 6x86MX PR233 188MHz

In the end I settled on a Super Socket 7 build using an AMD K6-2 CPU coupled with the ACorp 5ALi61 REV. D

What I liked about the socket 7 build was that I could use Intel and AMD CPU's if I wanted. I could use SDRAM or SIMM/EDO an AT or ATX PSU. A very versatile platform.


Upon closer inspection I found that the Epox EP58 MVP3C-M motherboard had a busted tranzistor which was branded 1P. At the moment of the assembly I didnt have a spare tranzistor. Later, just by sheer luck I found a suitable replacement from a ceased fan from a slot A heatsink. I made the transplant and the motherboard works :D

The last AT case I had was in bad shape. I had to make from scratch a POWER ON ATX compatible switch to fit into an AT compatible slot in the front bezel. I couldn't find a smaller one localy so I had to improvize :D All the switches from the local electronics shop were without release, meaning that once pressed they would not return back and after a few seconds the system would power down. All this trouble was also caused by the fact that I wanted to use an ATX PSU because I couldn't find a good AT PSU. To make things worse the prongs on which the switch had to be screwed were ripped off and I had to rebuild them. All in all it was worth the effort. The metal cover of the case was roughed up and I decided to wrap it up instead of painting it.

The V3 3000 received a fan for better cooling and all the parts were cleaned to perfection using 99,9% isopropyl alcohol.


The K6-2 450MHz - Build

Vital statistics:

1. CPU: AMD K6-2 450AFX - 450MHz
2. Motherboard: ACorp 5ALi61 REV. D - Socket 7 -100MHz- Chipset ALi Alladin V - ALi M1542-A1/M1543C-A1 1AGP 2x/ 3 PCI / 3 ISA
3. RAM: : 2X128MB=256 MB - PC133 @ PC100
4. VGA: STB Systems Inc - Voodoo 3 3000 AGP 16MB Rev. C
5. AUDIO: Creative Sound Blaster AWE 64 GOLD ISA - CT 4390
6. HDD: FUJITSU 8.4GB - MPD3084AT - 5400RPM ATA 33 - montat cu distantiere in bay de 5.25"
7. FDD: Sony
8. CD-ROM: TOP-G 50X
9. LAN: TP-Link 10/100Mbps PCI Network Adapter TF-3200 - ip100A
10. PSU: Antec EA-380D Green - 380W 80+ Bronze
12. Cooling: Socket 7 heatsink with Scythe Mini Kaze 50x50x10mm 4500 rpm / V3 3000 - stock heatsink with Scythe Mini Kaze 50x50x10mm 4500 rpm
13. CASE: Generic AT Case branded 2 Net Computers, retrofitted with ATX switch.
14. Medium effort - smaller than the 5x86 build but greater than the Pentium III build



After all this trip down the memory lane :D all the three systems and some of the hardware I collected, were prepared for long term storage :D

Next will be the K7 slot A test. But for now I'll let you to digest the above photos :)

A lot more to follow!

Sneak peak :D

Enter THE ATHLON!

Pentium III feels the train is coming, bullet train that is :D

 

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Hahaha! :D Even though I'm not much of AMD fan, several of my builds had been based on either Athlon or Duron - in fact, I'm about to work on Duron build soon! This includes RetroMaster 2000, the "profile" rig. It's based on Athlon 1800 and turned out to be reliable, but extremely annoying to set up & get it to work properly. Also, there's not much point in pointing out just how more fragile & thermally sensitive these things are, comparing to Intel counterparts. Intel might have been more expensive choice to go (it kinda still is), but always delivered more reliable platforms & was always ahead of AMD in this particular area.
 
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Also, there's not much point in pointing out just how more fragile & thermally sensitive these things are, comparing to Intel counterparts. Intel might have been more expensive choice to go (it kinda still is), but always delivered more reliable platforms & was always ahead of AMD in this particular area.
I disagree. The K7 days of AMD were one of their best ones. AMD left all Intel in the dust with the K7 and K8 releases. Reliability wasn't an issue at all. I do agree that the bare die K7's were fragile. Intel did not recover until they released C2D.
 
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Right, but I wasn't talking about the performance ratio & "bang for the buck" - I was referring to the build quality itself. Not so long ago (maybe couple of months, at least?) I've had a Pentium 3 system that's been idling around 149F due to dust buildup on the heatsink & mounting clip not being secured enough (being a Slot-1 cartridge). If it wasn't for the BIOS alarm, I would have probably never even realized that something is going on, despite "cooking" all the time, it was running reasonably stable... Unlike AMD CPUs on the other hand, which have tendency to go up in puff of smoke if you push them too hard and/or without cooling. There's no thermal throttling on these things, it only takes couple of seconds to fry the entire chip.

What I said is that Intel provided a more stable platform. Meaning their CPUs came with the heat shields & were equipped with safety features to prevent something like that in the first place. So when you paid more money for that Intel product, you didn't have to worry about crushing the bare die with your CPU cooler or frying the CPU due to a seized up fan bearing. So what I really wanted to say is that Intel proved itself to be a more reliable investment down the road. Otherwise I really don't mind AMD, I wouldn't be using it for any of my builds if that was the case :). However, (in case you've missed it) all my AMD builds come with huge & aftermarket CPU coolers. Spire FalconRock is among some of my favorites, but overall speaking the bigger the better!
 
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Bare die, no throttling.
Exactly like AMD of the same time period, except less performance and more cost.
 
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Well, I suppose you do have a point there (P3 having exposed die), but I always thought they had thermal throttling. Then again, I never had a situation where P3 got crushed under the heatsink and/or ended up in flames. In fact, some of those Coppermine CPUs had passively cooled heatsinks, usually found in OEM systems running Celerons 633

Check this out:

Also, please don't get me wrong. I'm not starting a war against AMD here, and/or being Intel's fanboy. Later AMDs had been pretty much equal to Intel (quality-wise, at least). In fact I'm running X2 on mom's PC system, that's been working for ages now without any problems whatsoever.
 
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Lol. Seen it before.
You know that was rigged right?
That's an Intel propaganda clip set up and paid for by Intel for Tom's, who is supported by Intel.

BTW, I'm not trying to derail this into an AMD vs. Intel bit. I'm just stating the facts.
Intel had absolutely nothing on AMD during the K7 and K8 days. That is a fact.
 
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Lol. Seen it before.
You know that was rigged right?
That's an Intel propaganda clip set up and paid for by Intel for Tom's, who is supported by Intel.

BTW, I'm not trying to derail this into an AMD vs. Intel bit. I'm just stating the facts.
Intel had absolutely nothing on AMD during the K7 and K8 days. That is a fact.
Agreed, was trying to stick to the facts myself. And absolutely, I never said otherwise (on Intel not having anything, during K7 and K8 days)

Just curious, what makes you think it's rigged? Like I said, I've had (and seen) couple of Intel chips running without ANY cooling whatsoever and none of them failed. Especially Mendocino cores, those things could take pretty much anything!

(see what I mean?) :D
 

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Just curious, what makes you think it's rigged? Like I said, I've had (and seen) couple of Intel chips running without ANY cooling whatsoever and none of them failed. Especially Mendocino cores, those things could take pretty much anything!
any one with workshop/repair bench experience will confirm that great care had to be taken with AMD CPU's of the time to avoid crushing the cpu chip, ensuring the heatsink/cooler was installed properly otherwise the Amd CPU Heated up so fast it Smoked (ruined no or poor thermal throttling )
Intel on the other hand Generaly thermaly throttled and the Cpu was still working after it shut down and cooled off
 
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I've yet to crack a CPU die due to bad cooler install. When I bought my 1st Athlon XP CPU, and 1900+ Palomino core, in the shop that sold it there was I guy arguing with the seller that the CPU and cooler combo he bought were defective because he broke two succesive CPU dies. From my perspective the defective part was him..... :D

When the Athlon first apeared Intel was taken by surprise. Later on for many years AMD and Intel traded blows and in the end we the end users had to gain from it. We all know the story. For many years AMD had a very strong position but as allways good things eventually come to an end.

When I bought my Celeron 366A I couldn't afford a PII because the prices were insane, and the K6-2 was getting long in the teeth :D and then came the Athlon.

After some CPU's frying, AMD also implemented a safety mecanism to prevent this from happening. Remember, those were pioneering days and as all humans we sometime learn through mistakes. It happens even to the all high and mighty corporations too, even today :D

In the hay days of AMD vs Intel battle I built for myself three Athlon XP machines and later on I jumped straight to Core 2 Duo and didnt buy AMD since. In that time buying the K7 was a no brainer for me.

Working with "newer" components after the 2000's I observed they were getting more fragile. The smaller fabrication node, more heat stres, etc are taking their toll. Usually components before the 2000's from my stash are working no problem. Even some pieces that you would say that are scrap.

The K7 slot A - build

1st Step - Slot A Cartridge removal/disassembly/tear down/dismantle

After I managed to find a SLOT A motherboard with the Irongate chipset together with four CPU's my first priority was a complete disassembly and carefull cleaning. Little did I know that this would turn into an adventure :D

As usual freeing the CPU's from their SECC cartridge, even if we are talking about AMD Slot A or Intel Slot 1, is sometimes a hairy business :D

In my case I used a pair of flat nosed pliers with a little electrical tape to prevent damage to the catridge and the backplate. Even so, some marks would remain.

I firmly secured one arm of the pliers into a vice and with the other arm I applied force. Even so, the entire process required some convincing. The cartridge was extremely stubborn, it moaned and groaned and squeaked. It was nerve-racking! :D


The upper part of the cartridge gave up extremely easy with the help of a fine screwdriver.

The bottom part, near the connector was held tight. In the end, only one of the cartidge remained intact, the other three sustained one broken securing hole. No big deal. This problem will be adressed later. The exterior was in pristine condition.

After inspecting closely the cartridges I saw that the small securing hole that broke off, was a different shape from the others. Three were round and one oval. I guess this was some kind of anti-tamper system to prevent opening and voiding warranty. The metal prongs from the heatplate had ca collar like shape that would be retained into the plastic holes of the cartridge.

After almost 17 years the thermal paste/pad was still kind of soft. The only surprise was the thick paste used to fill the gap between the heatplate and the cache chips. It was brittle and it was poorly applied.

Under no circumstance was I to power up these CPU's like this. My gut feeling was right, again :D

After removing the plastic cartridge the metal heatplate was held with two metal strips. These were under some tension an removing them proved challenging.

You had to press down on the CPU PCB to prevent it from rocking while at the same time you would have to keep a finger on the middle of the metal strip and with the other hand with a fine screwdriver you would have to bend the metal "teeth" of the metal strips to free them up.

If the PCB would start rocking, damage could occur to the CPU die. A BIG No No!

Over the entire process I got fed up with the smell they were releasing and I was anxious to clean them up reallllllllllyyyyyyy well. It's a distinct smell of old electronics, dust, old paste and God know what else....:D

To my surprise on the K7 500MHz CPU's die it was written k7900....

a) AMD K7500MTR51B C - 500MHz
b) AMD K7550MTR51B C - 550 MHz
c) AMD K7600MTR51B A - 600MHz
d) AMD K7700MTR51B A - 700MHz


2nd step - Deep cleaning of the CPU's and heatsinks

Also I bought a few 50 mm fans- FRACTAL DESIGN SILENT SERIES 50MM (FD-FAN-50) 3500 rpm - In the end they prived too weak and I reused some of the old fans from the original heatsinks.

In the end REVOLTEC Air Guard RL035 - 4500 rpm 50 mm fans will prove more adequate.

Note the K7 500MHz rated CPU with the K7900CNRBCA markings.



One of the heatsinks, the BIG Cooler Master one, came without the metal retaining clips, so I had to get creative and improvize.

I drilled a couple of holes and used a couple that were already in the heatsink and heatplate and with the help of 4 nuts and bolts I tightend the sucker really well :D

I made a spread test with some ol' Arctic Alumina thermal paste I had around.

For the final assembly I used less paste to prevent bleeding.


3rd step - Cleaning the motherboard

The motherboard I found It's not exotic or OC friendly, but it as good as it gets for me. I couldn't find another so, for the time beeing it will have to do.

PC CHIPS M800LMR V1.3A - AMD Irongate 750/756 - 1 AGP 2x, 4PCI, onboard Audio and Lan, ATA66, SDRAM - 768MB max

It came out golden , literally :D

Well here I was with clean slot A CPU's ready to be put back together and a squeaky clean motherboard.

GPU's I had plenty, RAM plenty, HDD's plenty. The only thing missing was a good PSU with strong 3.3V and 5V rails.

One name came into my mind obsesively - ENERMAX.

After asouring the local OLX site to my susprise a found just what I was looking for - a mint, new in BOX, ENERMAX EG365AX-VE(G) 353W.

It was really cheap and at first I thought that it couldn't be right.
After a phone call my doubts were quickly put to rest.

After 24 hours I held in my hands the Holy Grail, a shiny new ENERMAX PSU.

4th step - Slot A CPU's assembly

After I opened up the CPU cartridges I was aware that for the contact between the heatplate and the cache chips I had to use some kind of thermal pad.

I found localy Arctic branded ones of 1.5 mm and 0.5 mm - blue colour. They seemed right, but in the end the 0.5 mm one was too slim and the 1.5 mm too thick.

I tried to determine the exact width I needed and one size came out after a few measurements ~ 1 mm. Because I couldn't find Arctic blue pad of 1 mm width I resorted to buying a Thermal Grizzly Minus 8 - 1 mm pad.

After I reveived the Grizzly pad I found out that this width wasn't good either. It was too thick, hard and brittle. The Arctic one was way softer.

After a quick and EXPENSIVE lesson in thermal pads..... I counted my options and the solution came out in the form of the Arctic blue pad 1.5 mm which would have to be squeezed to the correct width.

To add to the trouble, the width between the CACHE chips and the heatplate wasn't always the same.

Also the cache chips of the CPU's were sometimes concave some time convex.

For each and every CPU I had to cut a smaller piece of Arctic blue pad, place a small clear plastic film over it and press it down with something flat.

I used the Cooler Master heatsink.

The process was repeated 3 or 4 time for each CPU - very hard work :D but for me it was very REWARDING.

When I assembled the heatplates and the heatsinks I also filled up with thermal pads the outside square holes of the heatplates which made contact with the cache chips for a better transfer of the heat. From factory there was nothing there.

Also I found out that the retaining clips of the heatsinks were out of shape and required some bending back. Initialy the contact between the heatplate and the heatsink was made through a very thin pad but when I used thermal paste I needed more force. From factory the gap was to big between the heatplate and the heatsink. Totally unacceptable! :D

Arctic MX-4 thermal paste was used for the CPU die.

Puting back the metal strips that hold down the CPU pcb proved difficult, but in the end I prevailed :) The trick is to keep the inside tooth of metal strip more inclined while the outside one would have to be more open. Then you would have to use a fine nose plier to bend it into the secured position. A steady hand is required. Damage to to PCB can occur easily, so tread carefully :D Check the picture bellow. Also avoid rocking the CPU PCB, otherwise you know....cracked, chipped CPU die.

After the opening of the cartridges, the holes of the plastic covers were bigger and three of them missed one of the holes. To prevent them from rattling I used two thin strips of BISON MONTAGEKIT EXTREME GRIP TAPE on the top side. This proved the winning solution. They were held firmly in place.

All the fans were cleaned and oiled. One fan was replaced because the original one was ceased.

The CPUS were once again as the day they were born. HAPPY DAYS.

5th step - some FUN

In the end I played some games and installed Win 98 SE. To this date this was my best experience with a PC and Windows 98. Delta Force - Land Warrior brought back some memories.

The only problem was the motherboard. It lacked any OC feature. I couldn't adjust any timing for the memory. No voltage control, absolutely nothing.

To my surprise the K7 500MHz CPU with the K7900CNRBCA markings ran at 700MHz without problems. Some of the other CPU's weren't correctly recongnized. I wanted to update de BIOS but couldn't find a suitable BIOS file and the chance of bricking the motherboard were too great. Even my old Tomato 5x86 Board had more RAM timing options.

Back in the day this was a budget motherboards so there is nothing to do about it.

The CPU's will have to be tested on another motherboard, preferably a high end one.

So in my case this was as good as it gets!

The reward was priceless though. I enjoyed every moment and I have no regrets :D monetary or otherwise :D
 

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Robert B, it's great that you are sharing your builds and pics with us, but please use the edit function and add new material if no one else has posted after your last, at one point you had 28 posts which I have merged by date posted, thank you.

Might I suggest that you have gone way past "Nostalgic Hardware", you may want to post anything new and of significant size in your own project log......

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/project-logs.18/
 
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Ok, Tatty_One - advice noted. Sorry for the trouble.


L.E. I tried to add some pictures to my last message when there was no post after me, but I keep on receving the message you cannot add more than 10 files.

This is why I posted so many different times. Maybe somebody can enlighten me.

Last bits and pieces

K7 - Classic Athlon


Test system:

Motherboard: PC CHIPS M800LMR V1.3A
CPU: Athlon Classic K7 500, 550, 600 and 700 MHz
RAM: SDRAM 256MB PC100 DS, 2X128MB PC100 SS = 512MB PC100
ODD: LG DVD-RAM-4163B IDE
GPU: Palit Daytona Geforce 3 Ti 200 - 64MB - DeepCool V50 Cooler
FDD: Alps
HDD: WD Caviar 800JB - 7200rpm IDE 8MB
PSU: ENERMAX EG365AX-VE(G) 353W
 

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I've yet to crack a CPU die due to bad cooler install. When I bought my 1st Athlon XP CPU, and 1900+ Palomino core, in the shop that sold it there was I guy arguing with the seller that the CPU and cooler combo he bought were defective because he broke two succesive CPU dies. From my perspective the defective part was him..... :D

When the Athlon first apeared Intel was taken by surprise. Later on for many years AMD and Intel traded blows and in the end we the end users had to gain from it. We all know the story. For many years AMD had a very strong position but as allways good things eventually come to an end.

When I bought my Celeron 366A I couldn't afford a PII because the prices were insane, and the K6-2 was getting long in the teeth :D and then came the Athlon.

After some CPU's frying, AMD also implemented a safety mecanism to prevent this from happening. Remember, those were pioneering days and as all humans we sometime learn through mistakes. It happens even to the all high and mighty corporations too, even today :D

In the hay days of AMD vs Intel battle I built for myself three Athlon XP machines and later on I jumped straight to Core 2 Duo and didnt buy AMD since. In that time buying the K7 was a no brainer for me.

Working with "newer" components after the 2000's I observed they were getting more fragile. The smaller fabrication node, more heat stres, etc are taking their toll. Usually components before the 2000's from my stash are working no problem. Even some pieces that you would say that are scrap.

The K7 slot A - build

1st Step - Slot A Cartridge removal/disassembly/tear down/dismantle

After I managed to find a SLOT A motherboard with the Irongate chipset together with four CPU's my first priority was a complete disassembly and carefull cleaning. Little did I know that this would turn into an adventure :D

As usual freeing the CPU's from their SECC cartridge, even if we are talking about AMD Slot A or Intel Slot 1, is sometimes a hairy business :D

In my case I used a pair of flat nosed pliers with a little electrical tape to prevent damage to the catridge and the backplate. Even so, some marks would remain.

I firmly secured one arm of the pliers into a vice and with the other arm I applied force. Even so, the entire process required some convincing. The cartridge was extremely stubborn, it moaned and groaned and squeaked. It was nerve-racking! :D


The upper part of the cartridge gave up extremely easy with the help of a fine screwdriver.

The bottom part, near the connector was held tight. In the end, only one of the cartidge remained intact, the other three sustained one broken securing hole. No big deal. This problem will be adressed later. The exterior was in pristine condition.

After inspecting closely the cartridges I saw that the small securing hole that broke off, was a different shape from the others. Three were round and one oval. I guess this was some kind of anti-tamper system to prevent opening and voiding warranty. The metal prongs from the heatplate had ca collar like shape that would be retained into the plastic holes of the cartridge.

After almost 17 years the thermal paste/pad was still kind of soft. The only surprise was the thick paste used to fill the gap between the heatplate and the cache chips. It was brittle and it was poorly applied.

Under no circumstance was I to power up these CPU's like this. My gut feeling was right, again :D

After removing the plastic cartridge the metal heatplate was held with two metal strips. These were under some tension an removing them proved challenging.

You had to press down on the CPU PCB to prevent it from rocking while at the same time you would have to keep a finger on the middle of the metal strip and with the other hand with a fine screwdriver you would have to bend the metal "teeth" of the metal strips to free them up.

If the PCB would start rocking, damage could occur to the CPU die. A BIG No No!

Over the entire process I got fed up with the smell they were releasing and I was anxious to clean them up reallllllllllyyyyyyy well. It's a distinct smell of old electronics, dust, old paste and God know what else....:D

To my surprise on the K7 500MHz CPU's die it was written k7900....

a) AMD K7500MTR51B C - 500MHz
b) AMD K7550MTR51B C - 550 MHz
c) AMD K7600MTR51B A - 600MHz
d) AMD K7700MTR51B A - 700MHz


2nd step - Deep cleaning of the CPU's and heatsinks

Also I bought a few 50 mm fans- FRACTAL DESIGN SILENT SERIES 50MM (FD-FAN-50) 3500 rpm - In the end they prived too weak and I reused some of the old fans from the original heatsinks.

In the end REVOLTEC Air Guard RL035 - 4500 rpm 50 mm fans will prove more adequate.

Note the K7 500MHz rated CPU with the K7900CNRBCA markings.



One of the heatsinks, the BIG Cooler Master one, came without the metal retaining clips, so I had to get creative and improvize.

I drilled a couple of holes and used a couple that were already in the heatsink and heatplate and with the help of 4 nuts and bolts I tightend the sucker really well :D

I made a spread test with some ol' Arctic Alumina thermal paste I had around.

For the final assembly I used less paste to prevent bleeding.


3rd step - Cleaning the motherboard

The motherboard I found It's not exotic or OC friendly, but it as good as it gets for me. I couldn't find another so, for the time beeing it will have to do.

PC CHIPS M800LMR V1.3A - AMD Irongate 750/756 - 1 AGP 2x, 4PCI, onboard Audio and Lan, ATA66, SDRAM - 768MB max

It came out golden , literally :D

Well here I was with clean slot A CPU's ready to be put back together and a squeaky clean motherboard.

GPU's I had plenty, RAM plenty, HDD's plenty. The only thing missing was a good PSU with strong 3.3V and 5V rails.

One name came into my mind obsesively - ENERMAX.

After asouring the local OLX site to my susprise a found just what I was looking for - a mint, new in BOX, ENERMAX EG365AX-VE(G) 353W.

It was really cheap and at first I thought that it couldn't be right.
After a phone call my doubts were quickly put to rest.

After 24 hours I held in my hands the Holy Grail, a shiny new ENERMAX PSU.

4th step - Slot A CPU's assembly

After I opened up the CPU cartridges I was aware that for the contact between the heatplate and the cache chips I had to use some kind of thermal pad.

I found localy Arctic branded ones of 1.5 mm and 0.5 mm - blue colour. They seemed right, but in the end the 0.5 mm one was too slim and the 1.5 mm too thick.

I tried to determine the exact width I needed and one size came out after a few measurements ~ 1 mm. Because I couldn't find Arctic blue pad of 1 mm width I resorted to buying a Thermal Grizzly Minus 8 - 1 mm pad.

After I reveived the Grizzly pad I found out that this width wasn't good either. It was too thick, hard and brittle. The Arctic one was way softer.

After a quick and EXPENSIVE lesson in thermal pads..... I counted my options and the solution came out in the form of the Arctic blue pad 1.5 mm which would have to be squeezed to the correct width.

To add to the trouble, the width between the CACHE chips and the heatplate wasn't always the same.

Also the cache chips of the CPU's were sometimes concave some time convex.

For each and every CPU I had to cut a smaller piece of Arctic blue pad, place a small clear plastic film over it and press it down with something flat.

I used the Cooler Master heatsink.

The process was repeated 3 or 4 time for each CPU - very hard work :D but for me it was very REWARDING.

When I assembled the heatplates and the heatsinks I also filled up with thermal pads the outside square holes of the heatplates which made contact with the cache chips for a better transfer of the heat. From factory there was nothing there.

Also I found out that the retaining clips of the heatsinks were out of shape and required some bending back. Initialy the contact between the heatplate and the heatsink was made through a very thin pad but when I used thermal paste I needed more force. From factory the gap was to big between the heatplate and the heatsink. Totally unacceptable! :D

Arctic MX-4 thermal paste was used for the CPU die.

Puting back the metal strips that hold down the CPU pcb proved difficult, but in the end I prevailed :) The trick is to keep the inside tooth of metal strip more inclined while the outside one would have to be more open. Then you would have to use a fine nose plier to bend it into the secured position. A steady hand is required. Damage to to PCB can occur easily, so tread carefully :D Check the picture bellow. Also avoid rocking the CPU PCB, otherwise you know....cracked, chipped CPU die.

After the opening of the cartridges, the holes of the plastic covers were bigger and three of them missed one of the holes. To prevent them from rattling I used two thin strips of BISON MONTAGEKIT EXTREME GRIP TAPE on the top side. This proved the winning solution. They were held firmly in place.

All the fans were cleaned and oiled. One fan was replaced because the original one was ceased.

The CPUS were once again as the day they were born. HAPPY DAYS.

5th step - some FUN

In the end I played some games and installed Win 98 SE. To this date this was my best experience with a PC and Windows 98. Delta Force - Land Warrior brought back some memories.

The only problem was the motherboard. It lacked any OC feature. I couldn't adjust any timing for the memory. No voltage control, absolutely nothing.

To my surprise the K7 500MHz CPU with the K7900CNRBCA markings ran at 700MHz without problems. Some of the other CPU's weren't correctly recongnized. I wanted to update de BIOS but couldn't find a suitable BIOS file and the chance of bricking the motherboard were too great. Even my old Tomato 5x86 Board had more RAM timing options.

Back in the day this was a budget motherboards so there is nothing to do about it.

The CPU's will have to be tested on another motherboard, preferably a high end one.

So in my case this was as good as it gets!

The reward was priceless though. I enjoyed every moment and I have no regrets :D monetary or otherwise :D
nice man. but i guess better you put it on project logs
 
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Glad you liked it. I didnt know there was an area of project logs...now its kind of late .... I guess....too many attachments to move ....

I still have quite a few number of pics with old hadware. These four builds were done starting with 2015 and 2016, usually in spring. Also I collected and restored some other components. This took time but I usually get stuff done very quickly. The whole process was done during my free time.

These bits are a part of the 22 years of my life since '94 begining with high school.Some I read about them, some were mine, some I saw at my friends. In '96 my parents bought my first PC, a 5x86 during the 10th grade, two years after I went to high school. The PC's were pretty expensive back then. I couldn't afford one sooner.

I just wanted to compress all the thing into these posts but I dont want to abuse TPU which is hosting my stuff free of charge.
 
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System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"
@Robert B I really like the video card you're using on the K7 rig, I miss purple PCBs :(
 
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