NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB

R-T-B · Jun 13, 2016

Vayra86 said:
This isn't about expensive fabs, this is about maximizing profit. Let's not fool ourselves with silly arguments about cost - these are cut down chips as well, not fully working ones. In the same vein, Nvidia is content selling us an underperforming blower to cool that cut down chip, at ANOTHER price premium.

Yeah, this totally isn't a ripoff at its current MSRP. Because it's faster than past gen's 970 from two years ago. Logic is strong here.

FYI I don't care what they ask for it personally, but let's call things for what they really are please. LegacyZa is absolutely right in saying a 50 dollar markup is a ripoff, because really, it is. 10-20 bucks? Sure. 50? Can't explain that. It's nearly 20% up.

It's what the market is willing to pay. AMD actaully needs to take a page out of their playbook if they want to survive, to be frank.

You can always buy previous gen if you REALLY need to save a buck and feel it's honestly better price to performance. Heck, I did that and picked up a Titan X for $450.00. I doubt you really honestly will find that a better deal though...

mroofie · Jun 13, 2016

Legacy-ZA said:
Mmmm yeah, W1zzard did kinda hint at something special in an earlier post...

Perhaps I should wait for the AMD cards to release first before deciding on purchasing the GTX1070, if it's near the 1070 performance level @ $200... Not more needs to be said, but I will get an AMD card then, would be nice to give nVidia the middle finger as they so clearly love to do to us.

Did you miss the reveal ?

its 970 - 980 performance :shadedshu:

As for your other post

The pricing is for America :rolleyes:

and blaming nvidia for what happens to electronics regarding price in our country is quite douchy and misleading :mad:

Ruru · Jun 13, 2016

"DVI output no longer includes analog VGA signals"

This should have been a positive thing since 290/290X, since who uses VGA monitors with high-end hardware?

Legacy-ZA · Jun 13, 2016

mroofie said:
Did you miss the reveal ?
its 970 - 980 performance

How convenient for you to exclude the price/performance per GPU. Now go back to the charts and see where 2x of those cards will be performing more or less and at a much lower price point. :shadedshu:

mroofie said:
As for your other post

The pricing is for America and blaming nvidia for what happens to electronics regarding price in our country is quite douchy and misleading

Actually, nVidia does have more of a say than you realize, it's just after the import tax, shipping, markups that things become murky and misleading. The problem for me is; that they market it at those MSRP price points to us as a whole as if it will be like that for every country in the world, when it obviously isn't for various reasons. :rolleyes:

Go get a dictionary or Google, I don't care which and lookup Retail and MSRP, it's the price you pay as the end consumer regardless of all the in between transactions. :mad:

nickbaldwin86 · Jun 13, 2016

Someday we will have a card... single 1 that can play Crysis 3 @ 4k and well over 60FPS

mroofie · Jun 14, 2016

nickbaldwin86 said:
Someday we will have a card... single 1 that can play Crysis 3 @ 4k and well over 60FPS

Lol

Air · Jun 15, 2016

Looks like the dvi port blocks a lot of airflow. I wonder if the cooling performance would be better without it.

Frick · Jun 15, 2016

Air said:
Looks like the dvi por blocks a lot of airflow. I wonder if the cooling performance woulbe be better withou it.

It's not like it needs better cooling anyway.

Air · Jun 15, 2016

Frick said:
It's not like it needs better cooling anyway.

Review implies it does:

During gaming, the card goes above 82°C, which results in lower clocks due to Boost 3.0.

And in the cons:

High price for the Founders Edition

Cooler runs into temperature limit

Fans don't turn off in idle

Overclocking more complicated than before

Could be quieter

DVI output no longer includes analog VGA signals

bug · Jun 15, 2016

Air said:
Looks like the dvi port blocks a lot of airflow. I wonder if the cooling performance would be better without it.

The cooler is not a blower type, so it doesn't block as much airflow as you'd think.
That said, I'd rather have a DP/HDMI instead. Or maybe two miniDP.

Air · Jun 15, 2016

bug said:
The cooler is not a blower type, so it doesn't block as much airflow as you'd think.
That said, I'd rather have a DP/HDMI instead. Or maybe two miniDP.

What do you mean? It is a blower type, all air is exausted through the I/O bracket. Thats why its so perforated:

But the DVI conector blocks a LOT:

Compare it to the AMDs design:

The top row is enterely open to improve airflow.

bug · Jun 15, 2016

Air said:
What do you mean? It is a blower type, all air is exausted through the I/O bracket. Thats why its so perforated:

But the DVI conector blocks a LOT:

Compare it to the AMDs design:

The top row is enterely open to improve airflow.

Oops, my bad. I thought I was replying to the MSI 1080 Gaming thread.

Travis · Jun 26, 2016

The GTX 1070 is blazing! It would be great for 4K with no AA turned on, and of course, it needs to be overclocked to death.

Once it is overclocked to death though, it performs just a little slower than a GTX 1080 at stock speeds! Which seems to average great playable fps at 4K .

I'm glad to see 4K is a standard just about now, for just $379.99 too!

I am excited to see how the partner cards look with more power to the PCB, and more overclocking potential!

I don't care what anyone says, (2) of these cards for $750 bucks is eye melting 4K performance once both overclocked especially!

$379 was how much the 4GB gtx 960 cards costed for a good one anyways like a FTW model.

And one of these GTX 1070's has 8GB of memory, and it is 5% faster then (2) GTX970's in SLI!!!! All for less money then a measly beefed up 4GB gtx 960...

Yes it is a value!

SpAwNtoHell · Jun 27, 2016

@W1zzard Are any partners cards with custom cooling like msi asus gigabyte evga reviews expected with techpowerup? If yes when we would see those?

Air · Jun 27, 2016

Travis said:
The GTX 1070 is blazing! It would be great for 4K with no AA turned on, and of course, it needs to be overclocked to death.

Once it is overclocked to death though, it performs just a little slower than a GTX 1080 at stock speeds! Which seems to average great playable fps at 4K .

I'm glad to see 4K is a standard just about now, for just $379.99 too!

I am excited to see how the partner cards look with more power to the PCB, and more overclocking potential!

I don't care what anyone says, (2) of these cards for $750 bucks is eye melting 4K performance once both overclocked especially!

$379 was how much the 4GB gtx 960 cards costed for a good one anyways like a FTW model.

And one of these GTX 1070's has 8GB of memory, and it is 5% faster then (2) GTX970's in SLI!!!! All for less money then a measly beefed up 4GB gtx 960...

Yes it is a value!

wat

SpAwNtoHell · Jun 27, 2016

Travis said:
The GTX 1070 is blazing! It would be great for 4K with no AA turned on, and of course, it needs to be overclocked to death.

Once it is overclocked to death though, it performs just a little slower than a GTX 1080 at stock speeds! Which seems to average great playable fps at 4K .

I'm glad to see 4K is a standard just about now, for just $379.99 too!

I am excited to see how the partner cards look with more power to the PCB, and more overclocking potential!

I don't care what anyone says, (2) of these cards for $750 bucks is eye melting 4K performance once both overclocked especially!

$379 was how much the 4GB gtx 960 cards costed for a good one anyways like a FTW model.

And one of these GTX 1070's has 8GB of memory, and it is 5% faster then (2) GTX970's in SLI!!!! All for less money then a measly beefed up 4GB gtx 960...

Yes it is a value!

Not sure what your point should be really as i can assure you gtx 1070 is not that wow even in fhd in latest titles if your target is 60fps minimum with all eye candy on maxed out and i can give you a example rise of tomb rider, but indeed is smooth as my minimum on msi gtx 1070 gaming x as it comes from the box is 45 fps in steam counter with high of 90+ on fhd monitor at 144hz gsync of... 8x msaa...but is ok for leaving room i5 6600k movie and ocasional games.

If you do not see what aa is doing to a game...not know what to say really...

Ps my 4k monitor is still used as secondary as i cannot grab a 1080 at this time and FE is not worth for my main pc and can get any yet as is nothing in stock that i want.

nem.. · Jul 5, 2016

For those who want to believe PR, let me test your logic..

NVIDIA says the 1070 has 64 ROPs. Is this the complete truth?

Look at the diagram and look at the actual test result of Rasterizer performance.

^ If you know anything about NV's architecture layout, you would have quickly realized Rasterizers are within a GPC cluster, if it's cut, bye bye ROPs.

Look at it's fillrate performance:

Ohh look at that! Nowhere near the 1080 with full 64 ROPs. It looks to be missing quite a few, like it's only got 48 ROPS usable.

What a coincidence, each GPC has 16 ROPs, four for the full GP104 equates to 64, 3 for the 1070 equates to 48 ROPs.

Do you trust AMD or NV PR?

Need I remind you, 970 fiasco?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38336263&postcount=46

bug · Jul 6, 2016

You made that picture up. There's no fully disabled GPC in 1070, this is how it's done: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/
I'm not sure where the ROPs are, but since the GPC is partially disabled to begin with, the ROPs may very well be left alone.

So there, you've tested my logic.

nem.. said:
For those who want to believe PR, let me test your logic..

NVIDIA says the 1070 has 64 ROPs. Is this the complete truth?

Look at the diagram and look at the actual test result of Rasterizer performance.

^ If you know anything about NV's architecture layout, you would have quickly realized Rasterizers are within a GPC cluster, if it's cut, bye bye ROPs.

Look at it's fillrate performance:

Ohh look at that! Nowhere near the 1080 with full 64 ROPs. It looks to be missing quite a few, like it's only got 48 ROPS usable.

What a coincidence, each GPC has 16 ROPs, four for the full GP104 equates to 64, 3 for the 1070 equates to 48 ROPs.

Do you trust AMD or NV PR?

Need I remind you, 970 fiasco?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38336263&postcount=46

headik · Jul 21, 2016

bug said:
You made that picture up. There's no fully disabled GPC in 1070, this is how it's done: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/
I'm not sure where the ROPs are, but since the GPC is partially disabled to begin with, the ROPs may very well be left alone.

So there, you've tested my logic.

Nope GTX1070 have one GPC disabled.Techpowerup is wrong
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ews/72689-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review.html

SpAwNtoHell · Jul 21, 2016

What is the point here gpc disabled or not as frankly at the end of the day it matter how the card bhaves perform. Debating about internal chip itself will not make it better or worse. And all of this internal stuff is a general view of the chip for comparision with other pascal chips or older... Is good nvidia is not releasing internal tranzistor count schematic as i would lough my head out having debates like this as i doubt many using a card like this never used or implemented a circuit having not bilions or milions of tranzistors but 100....

Bottom line is: it is what it is and not going to be better or worse.

xorbe · Jul 21, 2016

I don't understand the hang-up on the precise internal architecture. As long as it performs without surprises and all vram is full speed ... nobody cares otherwise.

Space Lynx · Jun 9, 2023

@R-T-B would be interesting to see an official review update of something like the 1070 on modern cpu, etc.

this review shows 91 fps at 1080p in black ops 3, but I am getting 160+ fps at 1080p high/ultra. wild. driver improvements, game updates, 4 dimm slots being used, and my ryzen cpu being modern... and the 1070 oc'd...

its just amazing how much improvement has happened.

@W1zzard if you ever get super bored one day you should consider reviewing some older gpu's on the same games with fully updated drivers, win 11, 4 dimm slots filled in the ram, etc. its wild i mean this is almost a 100% gain on the 1070 from your original review of it.

Tatty_Two · Jun 9, 2023

Space Lynx said:
@R-T-B would be interesting to see an official review update of something like the 1070 on modern cpu, etc.

this review shows 91 fps at 1080p in black ops 3, but I am getting 160+ fps at 1080p high/ultra. wild. driver improvements, game updates, 4 dimm slots being used, and my ryzen cpu being modern... and the 1070 oc'd...

its just amazing how much improvement has happened.

@W1zzard if you ever get super bored one day you should consider reviewing some older gpu's on the same games with fully updated drivers, win 11, 4 dimm slots filled in the ram, etc. its wild i mean this is almost a 100% gain on the 1070 from your original review of it.

What CPU are you using with that 1070? This review was using a 6700k, since 1080P tends to be pretty CPU heavy, even more so at higher FPS so I am guessing you are using something a great deal faster/better.

Space Lynx · Jun 9, 2023

Tatty_Two said:
What CPU are you using with that 1070? This review was using a 6700k, since 1080P tends to be pretty CPU heavy, even more so at higher FPS so I am guessing you are using something a great deal faster/better.

ryzen 5500 cpu.

that's kind of my point though, i didn't realize a modern cpu could be such a nice boost to an older card. i don't think a lot of people realize this in fact.

Tatty_Two · Jun 9, 2023

Space Lynx said:
ryzen 5500 cpu.

that's kind of my point though, i didn't realize a modern cpu could be such a nice boost to an older card. i don't think a lot of people realize this in fact.

Yeah, I think that boost may be a bit less at 1440p but at a rough guess your 5500 is probably 75% faster than a 6700k.

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