NVIDIA Announces the GeForce GTX 1060, 6 GB GDDR5, $249

[Fluffmeister]

Because the power you'd get from SLId 1060s is better provided by a single 1080. The power of SLId 1080s has no substitute today.

And that's still gonna cost $500-$600 for two 1060's.

Either the prices are high, or people just see the lack of SLI and go mental regardless.

 

[the54thvoid]

Require reviews.

SLI isn't a concern for many. Moving forward is a DX12 multi GPU environment with MS recent announcement. Crossfire and SLI will lose relevance once DX12 gets hold. That aside, I guess it's a personal thing - I left dual cards after 5850's, 7970's and finally 780ti's. I know there are plenty of people that would rather pay for a 1070 than 2 of these.

One thing that will draw equal praise an ire is the power draw. If the 1060 is frugal with power it will go into more OEM's because of it. When I had 5850's, the power draw of Fermi was always being laughed at. Now of course, things are very different, power draw isn't relevant.....

 

[ZoneDymo]

Now, let's see. GTX 1060 offers:
- Better performance
- Better performance per dollar
- Better efficiency
- Lower power draw
- Possibly higher overclocking headroom.

Which sane person would prefer an RX 480?

well the "performance per dollar" argument is quite up for debate still....

 

[alucasa]

Why would there be a point for the 1070 and not for the 1060?

Buying a single 1080 would be a far better solution than buying two 1060. You should know that since you've been here since 2009.

There is also an argument of buying 2nd 1060 later to SLI but there are issues to that also.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Because the power you'd get from SLId 1060s is better provided by a single 1080. The power of SLId 1080s has no substitute today.

sure, but I was asking for sli'd 1070, surely with that logic SLI on the 1070 is equally pointless.

 

[qisoed]

Nice card for those who wants to play high or better in 1920x1080 / 1920x1200.

But I think its good for nvidia to not give SLI feature for 1060, its not just keep their higher product market being taken but also to make the market healthy. So for those who wants multi gpu can run for AMD 480 and those who needs only single gpu can put 1060 on the list

 

[GhostRyder]

No 3gb edition, well that is a good thing to me because I thought for that performance segment its getting a little on the low end. I am not sure if I am surprised by the fact the Founders Edition is on this card but its seems ridiculous seeing as how the premium nets you less than before since this cooler looks much cheaper than the other two. Not sure about the removal of SLI still on the 1060 cards, seems like something I still see around though I doubt its going to hurt much in the long run.

Meh, guess we will just have to see. Hopefully they AIB's make some of those "Cheaper" plastic blowers available soon for those wanting the cheaper end of the spectrum.

 

[bug]

sure, but I was asking for sli'd 1070, surely with that logic SLI on the 1070 is equally pointless.

And you can't make the connection with the logic laid down in front of you? Let me spell it out for you (literally): there's no substitute for SLId 1070s either.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

sure, but I was asking for sli'd 1070, surely with that logic SLI on the 1070 is equally pointless.

2x GTX 1070 should end up faster than GTX 1080 whenever SLi works. There is no single GPU equivalent available = SLI may be acceptable.

There is absolutely no reason to SLi 2x GTX 1060 to do what, end up slower than GTX 1080 unless SLI scaling is 100%?

 

[efikkan]

Based on what?

MSRP of $239 vs $249.

 

[ZoneDymo]

And you can't make the connection with the logic laid down in front of you? Let me spell it out for you (literally): there's no substitute for SLId 1070s either.

no but their will be when the GTX1080Ti is out....

 

[Fluffmeister]

no but their will be when the GTX1080Ti is out....

Well duh, of course. But i suspect the GTX 1170 will beat that for less money.

And the cycle continues.

 

[the54thvoid]

no but their will be when the GTX1080Ti is out....

I'm backing you up on the front that sli (and crossfire) is pointless for gaming anyway. It's too much of a lottery to spend several hundred dollars on a card that a game might not support in sli. It's the new lottery and the odds are getting worse each game release. Only dev's adopting multi-gpu in DX12 will alter that slide and that doesn't require a bridge.

 

[HD64G]

Now, let's see. GTX 1060 offers:
- Better performance
- Better performance per dollar
- Better efficiency
- Lower power draw
- Possibly higher overclocking headroom.

Which sane person would prefer an RX 480?

Which sane person wouldn't prefer a GPU (RX480) over another (1060) that:
1) Isn't even reviewed yet
2) We don't know its availability when it is to be sold
3) It will be sold $50 over the normal price for weeks
4) It forbids SLI
5) It will be more expensive in its stock form than oced and much better cooled custom RX480s

Only fanboys.

That opinion might change if and when it will be widely available in big quantities for $249 and if proved to be over 10% average (W1z's review %) faster than ref RX480 at 1080P which is the resotution it matters to this sale price lvl buyers more than any other.

 

[medi01]

MSRP of $239 vs $249.

Yeah, just like 379$ 1070 has materialized.

well the "performance per dollar" argument is quite up for debate still....

So, by the way, is "better performance", especially in about 6 month from now.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

no but their will be when the GTX1080Ti is out....

You can't buy a GTX 1080 Ti, not now and I suspect for a while now.
You absolutely can buy a GTX 1080 now, and when GTX 1060s are available.

See the difference?

 

[Prima.Vera]

I don't believe that this card will be faster than my 780Ti. I refuse to belive that!

 

[chaosmassive]

Now, let's see. GTX 1060 offers:
- Better performance
- Better performance per dollar

- Possibly higher overclocking headroom.

Which sane person would prefer an RX 480?

as I said, GTX 1060 offer better performance over RX 480, but like what? 10%? is this justified for 250?
and there is no way 3rd party card which offer overclocking out of card will set in Nvidia MRSP
thats two points above somehow dont make any sense to Perf/Dollar that you claimed better than RX 480
mind to elaborate your calculation?

 

[Fluffmeister]

Card without the cooler, it seems that if you take the cooler off, you take the power connector off as well.

Ahhh it's tiny, could well be a margin monster for the green team.

 

[GhostRyder]

What matters is the performance and its overclocking, that's what people are going to see at the end since you include boost 3.0 and such (Especially with how easy it is to overclock these cards now a days). The people screaming that power consumption is the end all about this card need to buy a Prius or a Leaf and call it a day because that's going to save you more money than the difference in the two cards power wise (RX 480 vs GTX 1060). The only thing that slightly holds it back is the lack of SLI but even then its one of those "Meh" arguments because its a very slim market for people buying two lower end cards instead of one high (Buying a single 1070 would be much more logical) so its only matters to those who buy one now and might want another one down the road instead of replacing the card.

Its going to be a good card, but once we have reviews actually placing it 10% above (If that's where it lands) then we can judge the pricing for ourselves. The dual MSRP thing will hold it back, but I will bet it will get close to the lower MSRP with some of the plastic edition coolers like on the 1070 and 1080.

 

[bug]

Yeah, just like 379$ 1070 has materialized.

Unlike the $239 RX480: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709 601203818

 

[Assimilator]

Will be interesting to see how this puppy clocks; 2+ GHz at under 150W total power usage should definitely be doable if GP106 follows in its bigger brothers' steps. GTX 980 performance in a much smaller footprint and much lower power usage is exactly what AMD failed to deliver with RX 480, but this card looks to do it.

I reckon we'll see a 256bit 8GB 1060 Ti sooner or later, considering those empty memory spots. The board's PCB is the shortest I've ever seen, which means cooling might be a problem, but also that some enterprising AIBs might design and release a half-height version. GTX 980 performance in a HTPC, yes please!

I don't think we'll see GTX 1060 at $249 now, but if NVIDIA decide to release a Ti version, it'll be a different story.

 

[efikkan]

Which sane person wouldn't prefer a GPU (RX480) over another (1060) that:
1) Isn't even reveiwed yet

Fair enough, but we got clear indications.

2) We don't know it's availability when it is to be sold

Availability of RX 480 isn't that great either, especially the custom versions that everyone wants.

3) It will be sold $50 over the normal price for weeks

So is RX 480.

4) It forbids SLI

Doesn't matter for this price segment.

5) It will be more expensive in its stock form than oced and much better cooled custom RX480s

That's not true.

as I said, GTX 1060 offer better performance over RX 480, but like what? 10%? is this justified for 250?
and there is no way 3rd party card which offer overclocking out of card will set in Nvidia MRSP
thats two points above somehow dont make any sense to Perf/Dollar that you claimed better than RX 480
mind to elaborate your calculation?

As mentioned, $239 vs $249.

 

[rruff]

Not a price tag. It's the Manufacturer SUGGESTED Price. See how that worked out on the 1070's and 1080's? By NVIDIA listing the FE higher, for what will indubitably be an inferior card than AIB models, they have communicated to the AIB vendors where a reasonable price to charge actually is.

I really don't care what MSRPs are and how much early adopters get raped. In the US, Nov is the time to buy computer components and I expect to see many opportunities to buy 8GB 480s and 6GB 1060s for less than $200.

 

[rtwjunkie]

As mentioned, $239 vs $249.

I have to say, NVIDIA was very effective with their $249 shell game. Throw that out there as the SUGGESTED price, all while with a wink saying to vendors: "Look what we're charging for the reference model". Everyone then goes around repeating $249 as if it is the actual price.