• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Help: Force flash vBIOS with nvflash - win/DOS (Solved-ish)

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
I don't normally end up in a situation where I appear to have exhausted all options, but here I am.

I've got a GTX Titan Z that's running some pre-production firmware and won't cooperate with any drivers, modified or not. I would like to get the card running with production firmware via flashing both ASICs vBIOS with the retail versions. This is where I hit a snag, board ID Mismatch. nvflash does not appear to allow force flashing like ATIWinFlash does, so this simple error stops the whole process in its tracks.

Quick breakdown of different commands tried just from google searching previous threads:

nvflash -i# -4 -5 -6 romname.rom (replace pound with number of device to be flashed)
nvflash -i# -f -6 romname.rom
nvflash -index=# -f -6 romname.rom
nvflash -index=# -4 -5 -6 romname.rom

I understand that those are basically the same commands spelled differently, but I was just covering all bases. I did disable write protect on all available devices as well to clear that up.

My question really is, can I get around this roadblock and force the firmware in any way? While the board ID is a mismatch the device ID is the same and should work perfectly fine in the event that the retail firmware is applied.

Any help is appreciated, and I'm hoping it's a simple issue I've overlooked.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
18,584 (2.70/day)
System Name AlderLake
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock
@Law-II might be able to chime in.
He knows a lot about flashing graphics cards.
 

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
25,921 (3.77/day)
Location
Worcestershire, UK
Processor Intel Core i9 11900KF @ -080mV PL max @225w
Motherboard MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling DeepCool LS520SE Liquid + 3 Phanteks 140mm case fans
Memory 32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel Bdie @ 3600Mhz CL14 1.45v Gear 1
Video Card(s) Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC + 8% PL
Storage WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS)
Display(s) AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular
Software Win 11 Home x64
Straightforward nvflash -f bios.rom got me out of trouble a couple of times but that was a while back, not sure if it still plays.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
Straightforward nvflash -f bios.rom got me out of trouble a couple of times but that was a while back, not sure if it still plays.

Issue prevails, "Board ID mismatch"

problem.png
 

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
25,921 (3.77/day)
Location
Worcestershire, UK
Processor Intel Core i9 11900KF @ -080mV PL max @225w
Motherboard MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling DeepCool LS520SE Liquid + 3 Phanteks 140mm case fans
Memory 32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel Bdie @ 3600Mhz CL14 1.45v Gear 1
Video Card(s) Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC + 8% PL
Storage WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS)
Display(s) AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular
Software Win 11 Home x64
nvflash -f -5 -6 yourbios.rom
nvflash -4 -5 -6 yourbios.rom
The last one is a slight deviation from one you have already tried, these are confirmed to have worked in the past but again not sure if current, had to check an old USB drive where I keep any flashing files and details I have done in the past.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
nvflash -f -5 -6 yourbios.rom
nvflash -4 -5 -6 yourbios.rom
The last one is a slight deviation from one you have already tried, these are confirmed to have worked in the past but again not sure if current, had to check an old USB drive where I keep any flashing files and details I have done in the past.

Neither works. Board ID mismatch continues to win.

There has to be a workaround to the errors. ATIWinFlash has a command to ignore any and all errors and continue the flash regardless, and nvflash appears to have one as well but it just doesn't work.
 
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
985 (0.22/day)
Location
Ireland
Have you tried adding --protectoff parameter?
 
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
985 (0.22/day)
Location
Ireland
Sorry, i missed that part. And your graphics card is disabled in device manager, right?
 
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
985 (0.22/day)
Location
Ireland
I just noticed your Nvflash says it's "Simplified version for OEM only", have you tried other versions? For me v. 5.206.0.1 works every time. Also, I'd try leaving only Titan Z in PC and then flashing.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
I just noticed your Nvflash says it's "Simplified version for OEM only", have you tried other versions? For me v. 5.206.0.1 works every time.

Gave 5.206 a try and it has the same problem.

problem.png


No dice. :(

Still saying simplified version as well. I don't know why.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
I'm starting to think I should try the DOS version in hopes that it has a bit more functionality, or can possibly navigate around this error. If that's not going to work, can I change the board ID by editing straps with nvflash? (Assuming I can get the straps off the vBIOS to edit with.)
 

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!
Supporter
Joined
Mar 26, 2014
Messages
9,571 (2.47/day)
Location
Washington, USA
System Name Veral
Processor 7800x3D
Motherboard x670e Asus Crosshair Hero
Cooling Corsair H150i RGB Elite
Memory 2x32 Corsair Dominator
Video Card(s) Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx, 2x AOC 2425W, AOC I1601FWUX
Case Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s) Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Corsair Nightsword
Keyboard Corsair K55
VR HMD HP Reverb G2
Software Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores PEBCAK
How did you get your hands on a Titan Z?
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
Back into DOS with a different BIOS, run the commands and it just locks into a blinking cursor. No progress made toward the flash besides wiping the BIOS from the card.

Is there something I'm missing here? This seems like an awful lot of problems for something that is supposed to be straight forward.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
Finally got as far as getting nvflash in DOS to work, problem is that it too shows "Board ID mismatch"

Is there seriously no way around this bullshit error? Do I need to start soldering caps to bypass this shit or something?
 
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
2,100 (0.48/day)
Location
Spencerport NY
System Name Master
Processor Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3
Motherboard SR-2 Classified
Memory 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX680
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750
You can override all the checks/protection by using nvflash -j -4 -5 -6 bios.rom
 
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
2,100 (0.48/day)
Location
Spencerport NY
System Name Master
Processor Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3
Motherboard SR-2 Classified
Memory 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX680
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750
Interesting. It's always worked for me.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
14,062 (3.83/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Lenovo ThinkCentre
Processor AMD 5650GE
Motherboard Lenovo
Memory 32 GB DDR4
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse Lenovo
Keyboard Lenovo
Software W11 Pro 64 bit
.... can I change the board ID by editing straps with nvflash? (Assuming I can get the straps off the vBIOS to edit with.)
Or edit the BIOS Rom to suit the board I.D.?
Thinking along the same lines, you need a BIOS editor to mod it.
Either change the adapter I.D.
or change the firmware I.D.
 
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
1,924 (0.56/day)
Location
Seattle, WA
Or edit the BIOS Rom to suit the board I.D.?
Thinking along the same lines, you need a BIOS editor to mod it.

Working through them with a hex editor to see if I can make the appropriate change to the firmware without too much trouble.
 
Joined
Jun 29, 2009
Messages
2,012 (0.36/day)
Location
Heart of Eutopia!
System Name ibuytheusedstuff
Processor 5960x
Motherboard x99 sabertooth
Cooling old socket775 cooler
Memory 32 Viper
Video Card(s) 1080ti on morpheus 1
Storage raptors+ssd
Display(s) acer 120hz
Case open bench
Audio Device(s) onb
Power Supply antec 1200 moar power
Mouse mx 518
Keyboard roccat arvo
Joined
May 9, 2011
Messages
1,980 (0.40/day)
Location
Mainland Britain
System Name H2o Box
Processor Intel(R) Xeon e5-2690 v2 Stock 3.300 GHz stock
Motherboard MSI X79A-G43 Plus (MS-7760) v3
Cooling CPU EK & Phobya G-Changer 360 V2.0 RAD H2o VGA "AlphaCool M18" Hybrid [pump replaced 18/8/21]
Memory G.Skill TridentX 16Gb 11-12-12-32 2T @ 1866Mhz [locked]
Video Card(s) Zotac GTX 1080ti AMP EXTREME
Storage HyperX Fury 120GB & Savage 480GB SSD, Seagate 250GB,250GB 7200rpm Kingston 64GB SSD
Display(s) Asus TUF Gaming VG32VQR 2560*1440 165Hz VA Panel
Case Corsair O-800D
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
Power Supply Be Quiet! [Dark Power Pro 11] 1200W CM replaced [7-4-2017]
Mouse Zelotes T-90
Keyboard K66 Mechanical US Layout
Software Win 10 Pro 64Bit v 20H2 / OS [build 19043.1237] WFEP 120.2212.3530.0
HI

@Law-II might be able to chime in.
He knows a lot about flashing graphics cards.

Thanks for the heads-up with regard to the OP's Vbios write issue; however on this occasion I am unable to help out; due to a lack of knowledge on the Nvidia Vbios [only just recently started to play with these]

+1 Caring1; editing the Vbios image with HEX

Note: to OP good luck with this quest; will be keeping an eye on this thread

atb

Law-II
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top