NVIDIA TITAN X Pascal Available from Today

[D007]

$1,200.00 and in one year it will be worth $400.00...lol

 

[Vayra86]

$1,200.00 and in one year it will be worth $400.00...lol

Fits nicely into my upgrade plan is what I'm thinking

 

[PLAfiller]

$1,200.00 and in one year it will be worth $400.00...lol

I think it was 40% depreciation each year for computer parts in accountancy in USA. So for a year $720. To reach $400 should take 2 years

 

[Breit]

I don't get it. I thought this time around Nvidia explicitly won't name the Titan "GeForce GTX" to distinguish it from the Maxwell TitanX and to point out its professional lineage. So why is there a BIG blinking "GeForce GTX" logo on top and the backplate says "GeForce GTX Titan X"?

 

[D007]

I think it was 40% depreciation each year for computer parts in accountancy in USA. So for a year $720. To reach $400 should take 2 years

But the Titans from the 9 series only came out a year ago and they are like 400-600 bucks currently.
June 2nd the 980 ti launched.. Price is cut in half now, 1 year later..

 

[GhostRyder]

Got the Acer X34 Predator and cannot go back to anything else now. 100Hz with G-Spot and 3440x1440 pixels, is perfect for the new Titan.
I have the 1080 card, and except the crappy un-optimised Assassins Creed: Syndicate, which gives ~45 FPS (not that would matter, since G-Spot is doing wonders), all of the other games are reaching 100 easily .

Cool, seems like a pretty good monitor as I was looking at one of those. Currently though, I am leaning to the Asus PG279Q mostly for the price, refresh rate, and just sticking with 1440p. I keep liking the idea of Ultra-Wide, but I am just not ready to grab one yet until I can get one for a little less. Probably just going to grab that to go with the Titan I purchased last night since I am sticking with one card for at least 2 months.

Part of the thing I am worried about is the overclocking of the card. I am really hoping it at least hits 2000mhz boost clock or I will probably be disappointed with the card. Wonder if we get a 1080ti this year? Seems a bit weird either way, but I am sure there are less than perfect GP102 chips that will hit the scene.

 

[Vayra86]

Cool, seems like a pretty good monitor as I was looking at one of those. Currently though, I am leaning to the Asus PG279Q mostly for the price, refresh rate, and just sticking with 1440p. I keep liking the idea of Ultra-Wide, but I am just not ready to grab one yet until I can get one for a little less. Probably just going to grab that to go with the Titan I purchased last night since I am sticking with one card for at least 2 months.

Part of the thing I am worried about is the overclocking of the card. I am really hoping it at least hits 2000mhz boost clock or I will probably be disappointed with the card. Wonder if we get a 1080ti this year? Seems a bit weird either way, but I am sure there are less than perfect GP102 chips that will hit the scene.

Highly unlikely to reach 2000mhz boost.

Compare it to the metrics of GP104 and you can see why. Power budget simply isn't available to push beyond 2000mhz. I reckon the GP102 will cap out around 1750-1800, lucky samples may do 1850-1900. And that is already 20%.

Mark my words

 

[the54thvoid]

At the end of the day, TPU didn't make any statement or set a complaint about "not having a card before the launch day" as they did it with the NANO and the Radeon Pro Duo (which it seems is in the same market segment as the Titan Xp), so, different company, different treatment I guess?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_Pro_Duo_Preview/4.html

Well before release most tech reviewers were saying that the new Titan X was going to be limited. This isn't an affordable £599 Nano either - you can't equate the two, especially when you listen to the people making comments about the pricing. Also - you could argue TPU is biased against Nvidia by not doing a nice little Titan X preview. As usual, it perhaps appears the proposed bias of TPU is actually a manifestation of a forum members shoulder chip?

*eernnn* wrong the stock cooler is still capping out on the 83C temperature limits. And the fan profile won't change that much either, maybe with turbo jet fanspeed you will cap out at 81 C and see a the clocks bin 13-26mhz higher. Wooptiedoo!

Sorry to spoil your party. Try a couple hundred MHz higher.

Spec frequencies alone don't illuminate what's happening. The extra power target gives the Titan X room to breathe and really push the core. More power means a higher core speed, and our sample ran at very close to 2,000MHz when overclocked,... Memory scaled to 11,000MHz, as well.

With the generous 20% Power Limit overhead NVIDIA currently provides, a constant core frequency of 1923MHz and GDDR5X modules that operated just north of 11Gbps. Remember, the TITAN X’s Boost speed is listed at about 1500MHz. It did require a fan speed of 50% but that still wasn’t all that bad from an acoustics perspective.

And from PC Perspective:

With everything at stock, the average frequency in this test over a long period was 1660 MHz; when overclocked with a +150 MHz offset and increased power target, the average bumps all the way to 1838 MHz!

 

[rtwjunkie]

Well before release most tech reviewers were saying that the new Titan X was going to be limited. This isn't an affordable £599 Nano either - you can't equate the two, especially when you listen to the people making comments about the pricing. Also - you could argue TPU is biased against Nvidia by not doing a nice little Titan X preview. As usual, it perhaps appears the proposed bias of TPU is actually a manifestation of a forum members shoulder chip?



Sorry to spoil your party. Try a couple hundred MHz higher.

And from PC Perspective:

So you might summarize this card concisely as: a monster?

 

[the54thvoid]

So you might summarize this card concisely as: a monster?

In both pricing and performance, yes.

It's funny listening to people bitch about it though.

And for the overclocking potential, EKWB have a block coming out for it this month.

https://www.ekwb.com/news/ek-announces-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-pascal-water-blocks/

 

[Vayra86]

Well before release most tech reviewers were saying that the new Titan X was going to be limited. This isn't an affordable £599 Nano either - you can't equate the two, especially when you listen to the people making comments about the pricing. Also - you could argue TPU is biased against Nvidia by not doing a nice little Titan X preview. As usual, it perhaps appears the proposed bias of TPU is actually a manifestation of a forum members shoulder chip?



Sorry to spoil your party. Try a couple hundred MHz higher.

And from PC Perspective:

I stand corrected. That is impressive.

 

[the54thvoid]

I stand corrected. That is impressive.

I do agree though that the cooler is a bit shit for a £1100 card. But the fact the Titan X is reaching close to 2000Mhz doesn't give much scope for a GTX1080ti. I really don't see why or how Nvidia could launch one? With the GTX 1080 in the *ahem* 'affordable' price range and being better than Fury X in everything (even Vulkan Doom) there is no need or product stack room for a 1080ti.

I would not be surprised if we see nothing more from Nvidia now until Vega appears from AMD. And even then, they might do nothing if Vega challenges the GTX 1080.

 

[64K]

Seems to me Nvidia is trying to promote the Pascal Titan X as a semi-professional card. From the GeForce website

"TITAN-series graphics cards are the embodiment of perfection, utilizing each generation’s ultimate GPU, the fastest VRAM available, the best components, and the most desirable shrouds. Since 2013 TITAN-series graphics cards have broken records, turned heads, and delivered supercomputer performance and capabilities to gamers, engineers, medical professionals, and scientists around the world. Today, we unleash NVIDIA TITAN X, the ultimate TITAN, powered by Pascal, the world’s fastest and most advanced architecture."

Of course they also want gamers to buy them. I think the way Nvidia releases the Titans before the strictly gaming version of the Flagship GPU of the series is because they can scoop up a few gamers with fat wallets and perhaps a shortage of self control to wait on the 1080 Ti version. If you actually need 12 GB VRAM for some reason then I guess the Pascal Titan X is for you if you want the best performance out there.

Nvidia is following a similar pattern since the Kepler Titan release. It was seven months later that we got the GTX 780 which was a gimped GK110 and two months later we got the GTX 780 Ti which was faster than the Titan until the Titan Black released three months after that and they were the same unless you needed the 6 GB VRAM on the Titan Black at that time.

Then the Maxwell Titan X released about a year and a half ago. The GTX 980 Ti followed three months later. The non reference 980 Ti was about as fast as the reference Titan X and a heck of a lot cheaper to. $675 compared to $1,100 for the Titan X.

Wash/ rinse/ repeat. The Pascal Titan X is $1,200 and there is no doubt in my mind that the 1080 Ti will come. It's just a matter of time and a little patience. My guestimate is that Nvidia will set the MSRP at somewhere around $800.

 

[GhostRyder]

I do agree though that the cooler is a bit shit for a £1100 card. But the fact the Titan X is reaching close to 2000Mhz doesn't give much scope for a GTX1080ti. I really don't see why or how Nvidia could launch one? With the GTX 1080 in the *ahem* 'affordable' price range and being better than Fury X in everything (even Vulkan Doom) there is no need or product stack room for a 1080ti.

I would not be surprised if we see nothing more from Nvidia now until Vega appears from AMD. And even then, they might do nothing if Vega challenges the GTX 1080.

I agree, hence why I pulled the trigger. With where the Titan X currently sits in comparison to the GTX 1080 the only reason I could see a GTX 1080ti is because there are chips that are less than perfect coming out in a high enough quantity to warrant it or AMD surprises us with something. Even so, I doubt its going to be within the next couple of months (Maybe at earliest around December).

Seems to me Nvidia is trying to promote the Pascal Titan X as a semi-professional card. From the GeForce website

"TITAN-series graphics cards are the embodiment of perfection, utilizing each generation’s ultimate GPU, the fastest VRAM available, the best components, and the most desirable shrouds. Since 2013 TITAN-series graphics cards have broken records, turned heads, and delivered supercomputer performance and capabilities to gamers, engineers, medical professionals, and scientists around the world. Today, we unleash NVIDIA TITAN X, the ultimate TITAN, powered by Pascal, the world’s fastest and most advanced architecture."

Of course they also want gamers to buy them. I think the way Nvidia releases the Titans before the strictly gaming version of the Flagship GPU of the series is because they can scoop up a few gamers with fat wallets and perhaps a shortage of self control to wait on the 1080 Ti version. If you actually need 12 GB VRAM for some reason then I guess the Pascal Titan X is for you if you want the best performance out there.

Nvidia is following a similar pattern since the Kepler Titan release. It was seven months later that we got the GTX 780 which was a gimped GK110 and two months later we got the GTX 780 Ti which was faster than the Titan until the Titan Black released three months after that and they were the same unless you needed the 6 GB VRAM on the Titan Black at that time.

Then the Maxwell Titan X released about a year and a half ago. The GTX 980 Ti followed three months later. The non reference 980 Ti was about as fast as the reference Titan X and a heck of a lot cheaper to. $675 compared to $1,100 for the Titan X.

Wash/ rinse/ repeat. The Pascal Titan X is $1,200 and there is no doubt in my mind that the 1080 Ti will come. It's just a matter of time and a little patience. My guestimate is that Nvidia will set the MSRP at somewhere around $800.

Even so, they market these now more to gamers than anything else. In the past, yes they were full on hybrid cards (My words) with part professional and part gaming attributes. But with the previous Maxwell variation they pushed it as the top gamer card same with this one. It can still be used for other tasks, just not as many as in the past...

 

[jabbadap]

I do agree though that the cooler is a bit shit for a £1100 card. But the fact the Titan X is reaching close to 2000Mhz doesn't give much scope for a GTX1080ti. I really don't see why or how Nvidia could launch one? With the GTX 1080 in the *ahem* 'affordable' price range and being better than Fury X in everything (even Vulkan Doom) there is no need or product stack room for a 1080ti.

I would not be surprised if we see nothing more from Nvidia now until Vega appears from AMD. And even then, they might do nothing if Vega challenges the GTX 1080.

I'm afraid you might be right. If things goes like they went with kepler. We will see gtx1170 as rebranded gtx1080 with higher clocked gddr5x:s(12Gbps or 14Gbps chips)@~$499 and seriously castrated gp102 with i.e. sku with one gpc disabled: 3200cc, 320bit 10GB of 10-14Gbps gddr5x mems called gtx1180@~$699. If they don't need to compete on high end with amd they obviously won't compete with themselves...

But they will address RX 470 and RX 460 next, so castrated gp106 and gp107 based products.

 

[qurotro]

It's not the stock cooler what is doing it, it's bios temperature target set to ~80°C and power limiter to XX Watts. If you only do a custom fan curve for it temps might be lower; if bios power limiter kicks in before maximum boost clocks and lowers the clocks before temps rises to near default temperature target. Think it this way if nvidia really wanted they could have done that automatic fan curve to bios for reaching lower temps and thus making more noise...

But I agree Nvidia's stock cooler is less than optimal for such a power hungry card: With stock lowish noise profile, awful throttling. And with lower temp profile, awful noise and still might be throttling.

Spoiler

If you look OC settings he used:

Spoiler: Afterburner from pcper

Power limit +120%, Temp target 89°C, Fan speed auto and you get consistent 1.8GHz clock vs average 1.6GHz inconsistent clocks from stock -> power limiter does not keep clawing clocks down. Which is quite troubling is the power draw increased over 300W(even pcie slot goes out of spec while OC). I'm afraid without custom boards nvidia's reference boards will keep that card down even if you go water.

Damn right...the set all these reference card to reach 80..as I own GTX680,780ti, titan X, they all did the same shit..if you set fan speed to 70%, it will stay way below 80.

 

[awesomesauce]

nice piece of electrical engineering

but if you give me the choice, i would go for 2 1070gtx in sli over this.

 

[xorbe]

if you give me the choice, i would go for 2 1070gtx in sli over this.

Why would you opt for 50 more watts, 4GB less vram, and SLI problems? Just to save $350-400? If you actually need that much gfx power for 4K setup, it doesn't seem like a great trade-off.

 

[Vayra86]

Why would you opt for 50 more watts, 4GB less vram, and SLI problems? Just to save $350-400? If you actually need that much gfx power for 4K setup, it doesn't seem like a great trade-off.

That's still a pretty beefy saving, but the SLI issue cannot be overlooked.

 

[Prima.Vera]

I'm guessing there won't be any custom cooled variants of this card, right?

And in a few months we'll have 1080ti with all the cores unlocked same memory for half the price. Wasn't titan supposed to have 24gb anyway ?

Roumours are saying that this generation won't be any 1080Ti... Not unless AMD will bring something to the table this or next year to challenge the Titan or the 1080 at least.

 

[ensabrenoir]

....scary thing is...... this is suppose to be a ultra high end exclusive card.....but if it sells out in 2 minutes....nvdia probably will think they priced it too low....
+60fps at 4k

 

[BiggieShady]

Wooptiedoo!

Obviously temperature target was also raised for consistent clocks over 1.8 GHz

Bottom line if you shell out 1200 for this... you've lost the plot and I can't take you seriously

What a relief knowing I'm taken seriously because I'm not rich enough to burn money on overpriced graphics cards

 

[FordGT90Concept]

To the name being unoriginal (this is going back many pages): I really wish hardware vendors would stick to a model name that reflects it's products position in the market place and then append a hardware revision to it. For example, Titan, Titan V2, Titan V3. Intel is doing this with its Xeon processors and it just makes sense. The rebranding of cards does not make sense. AMD had a good scheme in XT, Pro, and SE. They should go back to it and embrace it.

Another example of what I'm getting at is what most American automakers do. There isn't a Ford Taurus 100, 200, 300, and so on. It's just "Taurus" distinguished by its model year. When you look at a brand like Mercedes-Benz--they're very much like graphics cards today with things like GL450. It's so confusing unless you're intimately familiar with the brand and how it places products. Yeah, "Taurus" doesn't tell you what it is, even that it is a car, but it is a name that is recognized through generations.

Someone said before that GeForce is a much better brand than Radeon. I tend to agree. AMD could use a rebranding and when it does, it should really consider sticking the names that the market will recognize 10 years down the road.

 

[64K]

I'm guessing there won't be any custom cooled variants of this card, right?

Roumours are saying that this generation won't be any 1080Ti... Not unless AMD will bring something to the table this or next year to challenge the Titan or the 1080 at least.

Rumors were the same when Nvidia released the Kepler Titan. I saw posts on most tech sites that Nvidia wasn't going to release another high end GPU. Some people even posted that they were buying Titans because they didn't feel like it was worth it to wait on something that might never come. Some came back later and posted that they regretted not waiting on the 780/780 Ti. Granted it was 7 months before we got the GTX 780 and it was gimped but according to the review here it was overall about 8% or 9% slower than the Titan at 1200p and 1600p and it was $600 MSRP versus the Titan at $1,000 MSRP

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780/26.html

Then two months later Nvidia rolls out the 780 Ti at $700 MSRP which was about 9% to 11% faster than the $1,000 Titan overall in gaming.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780_Ti/27.html

Moving forward to the Maxwell Titan X with $1,100 MSRP and three months later we get a 980 Ti with slightly slower performance for $650 MSRP. I paid $680 for my MSI Gaming version.

Now we have Pascal Titan X with a MSRP of $1,200 and a GTX 1080 with a MSRP of $600 (I know they actually cost $650 due to shortages and retailers doing what retailers do but prices will settle down some once the supply channels are fully stocked).

An 8 GB 1080 Ti that was a little slower than the Pascal Titan X for around $800 would fit in between the 1080 and Titan X quite nicely price wise for the high end enthusiasts.

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

I thought the original Titan was the last to retain the full fp64 count, since then they have been cut back to improve gaming on them.
I'm not certain but I think AMD cards are better at compute with fp64 hence their use in mining and folding.

Nvidia dropped it entirely now, so AMD is the only offering(in 'normal' GPUs, but AMDs support is minimal at best) but CUDA is such a strong alternative that it's extremely workload dependent if you're even going to consider talking about either of them :/